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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 05:32 AM May 2016

New Poll Out of Oregon; Hillary up 15, 48-33 ..Hoping both dreams comes true for us..yikes

Last edited Mon May 16, 2016, 07:12 AM - Edit history (7)

A bombshell to close out your weekend in style: Hillary up fifteen in Oregon.

★★★


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/15/1526708/-New-Poll-Out-of-Oregon-Hillary-up-15-48-33


The Oregon primary is on Tuesday, May 17th.

If the numbers from a newly released poll of the OR Democratic primary are accurate and hold steady for a week, it’s over. Team Sanders is banking on a twenty-plus percent win in Oregon (which wouldn’t narrow her lead, but would have value for the sake of appearances) – a defeat of this magnitude on friendly ground could sound his bell’s last tolling.

The poll (by Portland’s DHM Research) calculates the outcomes of two scenarios, one based on higher Democratic turnout, the other on average turnout. n=304, MoE 5.6%.

Both scenarios show a statistically significant lead for Hillary Clinton outside the poll’s MoE.

In the high turnout model [.pdf], she leads by 7%, 45% to 38%, in the average turnout model [.pdf] by 15%, 48% to 33%.

After Oregon, 930 pledged delegates remain on the table.

★★★

Hillary Clinton may have a big surprise coming up this week with polls from Oregon showing her ahead in a state many thought would be a cake walk for Bernie Sanders.

Desperately needing momentum in his bid to pull off an upset in the Democratic primary, Sanders has been looking to Oregon as a chance to take a big chunk out of Clinton’s delegate lead. It is a progressive state with demographics favorable to Sanders, and he has drawn some huge crowds during his campaigning there. [...]

Supporters of Bernie Sanders believed the same way with many rallying to reach voters through phone banking in an effort to give Sanders a big win, hoping to be by 20 points or more.

But, the polls don’t reflect that. [Portland-based pollster] Horvick’s firm, DHM Research, showed that Hillary Clinton is actually leading Bernie Sanders and by a margin of 15 points. The poll had Clinton ahead 48 percent to 33 percent.

The Los Angeles Times has more:

Like everyone else in Oregon, pollster John Horvick has watched as Bernie Sanders draws massive crowds by capitalizing on liberal dissatisfaction in this left-leaning state.

“It felt like this is Bernie Sanders country,” he said.

That’s why the latest poll results from his firm, DHM Research, were something of a surprise. Hillary Clinton led 48% to 33% , a gap much larger than the margin of error of 5.6 percentage points. [...]

Now, some reasons to believe Clinton could pull off a victory here.

Oregon has a closed primary, meaning only registered Democrats can vote, and Sanders hasn't won a closed primary yet in this campaign. Older voters are much more likely than their younger counterparts to be registered with a party, and they’re more likely to favor Clinton, giving her an edge.

In addition, Horvick’s team calculated a second set of numbers based on a potential turnout where young voters and new voters cast ballots in higher numbers than normal .

Even then, Clinton had a lead that exceeded the margin of error, 45% to 38%.

I was unable to find any polling whatsoever of Oregon’s primary, and assumed (along with everyone else) – the demographics being favorable to Sanders – that he would carry the state. Not by enough to gain a lead or even whittle away substantially at his delegate and vote deficit by all that much, but a win is a win.

If an expected win however becomes an unexpected double-digit loss, it becomes difficult to imagine what believable rationale the Sanders campaign might concoct to keep its donor spigots open and troops motivated.

With seventy four delegates, Oregon represents the third-largest electoral reservoir remaining, after California (546) and New Jersey (142).

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So what comes next? Assuming Sanders loses Oregon by these margins, he would have to win all remaining primaries by ~ 70% to 30%, a vote share he has not reached outside of his home state of Vermont and that is not evident in the polling we have of the contests to come. All things are possible under heaven, this precise eventuality however strikes me at least as somewhat unlikely to occur.

This is done yesterday ...I hope its a win for her...




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Keep Your Fingers Cross........


And Let It Be........Hillary

And dreams come true Paul is coming to our hometown after 52 yrs and we are going,we might have chance to present my art to him as we did Ringo yrs ago same arena the arena is working on it not sure yet but it would be our dream for me and hubby.... Just one day before our wedding anniversary.....he will be here . yikes for us Beatles fans its a dream come true as Hillary winning......

So hope for Hillary to win....dreams can come true.....

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New Poll Out of Oregon; Hillary up 15, 48-33 ..Hoping both dreams comes true for us..yikes (Original Post) Iamaartist May 2016 OP
If she wins... StayFrosty May 2016 #1
That is for sure keep your fingers cross Iamaartist May 2016 #2
Thanks for the info, a win of less than 70% by Sanders is a loss for Sanders. Thinkingabout May 2016 #3
Your welcome,keep your fingers .......mayber BS is is fading out on the end of a long road.. Iamaartist May 2016 #4
Fading is right. Thinkingabout May 2016 #5
LOL Iamaartist May 2016 #6
I am afraid to believe in these results. BlueMTexpat May 2016 #7
We all are but we can all hope........thank-you for this.... Iamaartist May 2016 #8
Mahalo for the HOPE! Cha May 2016 #9
Tomorrow ... BlueMTexpat May 2016 #10
Also keeping my fingers cross for her to win Kentucky !!! Iamaartist May 2016 #11
I finally reached little over 1000 post,not much...but finally...did it Iamaartist May 2016 #12
That's excellent! pandr32 May 2016 #18
Thank-you very much Iamaartist May 2016 #19
That would be phenomenal liberal N proud May 2016 #13
Lot of us are worried.......here Iamaartist May 2016 #14
Fingers crossed - but that poll sounds like no one from Portland is expected to vote SharonClark May 2016 #15
I know... just keep your fingers cross,I dont trust polls much either... Iamaartist May 2016 #16
This poll has been out for a few days now book_worm May 2016 #17
Either way...... Iamaartist May 2016 #21
That's encouraging, but the concern is that in both of their scenarios there are still almost 20%... George II May 2016 #20
We can hope for the best,yep we will know tomorrow!......we are nearing the end.. Iamaartist May 2016 #23
I want the General Election campaign to begin - as they say, "we're burning daylight". George II May 2016 #25
Cautiously optimistic... TwilightZone May 2016 #22
So am I...... Iamaartist May 2016 #24
BTW, Oregon is another state that is ~ 90% white and only 2% AA. Right in Sanders' wheelhouse! George II May 2016 #26
Closed primary, and Rs won't be crossing over to vote against Hill as they did in WV. stopbush May 2016 #27
I feel the same....we dont know.... but we can hope Iamaartist May 2016 #29
Looks good. But some issues to be concerned about. Fla Dem May 2016 #28
Hoping she can take one state..... Iamaartist May 2016 #30
We are with you Hillary today good or bad we stand behind you.... Iamaartist May 2016 #31
Poll is an outlier -- she'll lose Oregon obamanut2012 May 2016 #32
Ok...thank-you but she will be our nominee and she will win the GE and thats ok..... Iamaartist May 2016 #33

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Thanks for the info, a win of less than 70% by Sanders is a loss for Sanders.
Mon May 16, 2016, 05:43 AM
May 2016

Hillary only needs 304 pledged delegates to get half of the PD, she only needs 148 delegates. There are 157 SD's who have not endorsed, I feel sure she will get 148 out of the SD's, all else is Lagniappe for Hillary, more votes, more delegates.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
9. Mahalo for the HOPE!
Mon May 16, 2016, 06:23 AM
May 2016

I just hope for the best outcome for Hillary and glad we don't have to worry about her not getting the nom.

It would be Wonderful if Hillary won Oregon but as far as these polls are concerned.. ? We shall see real soon, won't we?

BlueMT~

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
19. Thank-you very much
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:42 AM
May 2016

Thank-you its not much some do alot of post in a day ,but I have art projects to work on,so I try to jump in and post as I can....

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
13. That would be phenomenal
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:58 AM
May 2016

Can't imagine what Bernieland would become at that point.

Actually, I think we can!



Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
14. Lot of us are worried.......here
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:16 AM
May 2016

But i think if they know who the nominee is going to be by now,,,,,,they might just start thinking,to vote for her...I surely hope so we are sitting on

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
16. I know... just keep your fingers cross,I dont trust polls much either...
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:23 AM
May 2016

We have to be positive also....

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
17. This poll has been out for a few days now
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:17 AM
May 2016

I reported on it last week, it is hopeful, of course, but as it says it really depends on turnout. A lot of people have registered to vote in the Democratic primary and many of them are younger voters.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. That's encouraging, but the concern is that in both of their scenarios there are still almost 20%...
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:50 AM
May 2016

....undecided. That's a huge number considering that the primary was only a week or so away when the poll was taken. Are people being coy, wanting to seem uncommitted, or are they truly undecided?

But, the good thing about the numbers of those two scenarios is that even if most of the undecideds go to Sanders, the primary will be roughly 50/50, not the convincing win for him that they were hoping for.

We'll know by midnight tomorrow!

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
23. We can hope for the best,yep we will know tomorrow!......we are nearing the end..
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

Just think if he never came in ,she would have been the nominee by now...

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
22. Cautiously optimistic...
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:54 AM
May 2016

but the number of new voters kind of worries me. If they're being significantly underpolled, the polls could be way off.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
27. Closed primary, and Rs won't be crossing over to vote against Hill as they did in WV.
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:28 PM
May 2016

Sanders' climb gets steeper every day - money running out, hundreds attend rally in San Diego when thousands were expected, people want to vote for a winner. Marginal Sanders supporters know it's over for him and won't throw away their vote.

I have a good feeling about OR, but who knows what will happen?

Fla Dem

(23,680 posts)
28. Looks good. But some issues to be concerned about.
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

I posted this article yesterday as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107133894

Poll was done over a week ago. Lots could change in a week. All those switched and new registrations. While some may be for Hillary, concerned a lot of switched are Rethugs who will vote for BS because they would rather go up against him in the General. Still it's good to see a positive poll for HRC.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
30. Hoping she can take one state.....
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

A lot of my post I post, some people post the same after me,its ok not everybody sees that post at the same time.......I could not find anything current a lot might be part of the Tea Party that switch over .or never been Dem to begin with......would be nice...for change...But with BS in the way don't know.with his die hard fans......

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