So someone is offended for being criticized for coming over to the Hillary group, and

[still_one]

violating its TOS because that person felt "it was his right to do it".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128023931

I wonder if the person even has a concept what TOS within special groups means?

[rpannier]

1. Probably is, but doesn't care

Sometimes it seems like there are people here who don't feel the rules apply to them
But, should you go over to their little corner of the sky and say anything, hellfire pours from them
It's embarrassing
I'm all about getting behind your woman or man for office, but a little class would be nice

[still_one]

3. I agree. I understand one can make a mistake, and post in the wrong group, that happens, but in

general, it would be nice if we would be respectful of each other's candidates, and everyones groups.

[rpannier]

5. Exactly

I think many of us can point to where we posted in the wrong group once or twice
When asked to take it down, the poster should have the courtesy and respect to do so
Kind of like visiting someones house and they ask you to stop raiding their fridge.
A polite person stops

on note: I went to the link and wrote a quick thing about TOS
It won't do any good, but maybe cuz I have a Bernie icon the dink might think a little bit more because it doesn't come from an HRC supporter
But I doubt it

[still_one]

7. Thanks. In the end whoever is the nominee, we are going to need each other

[rpannier]

8. Pretty Much nt

[BainsBane]

24. I did that in the BS group

and in another. I self deleted when I realized it. I've since put the BS group in the trash so I don't make that mistake again. I don't want to disrespect their safe haven, just as I don't like it when others disrespect the groups I belong to.

[still_one]

25. I have the same view

[sheshe2]

37. Funny thing, Baines.

They are posting their complaint of the Hillary Group in The BERNIE GROUP.

[BainsBane]

38. Wasn't a host of this group

pummeled relentlessly for allowing meta discussions in here?

[sheshe2]

39. I do believe you are correct.

[hrmjustin]

2. It is not fun to ban someone but i will easily do it and did it in this case.

Our members are targets and the hosts will not allow people to come in here to disrupt and bait us.

We have this one space where we should be free of Hillary hate and they just can't help themselves and feel the need to invade our space.

[still_one]

6. I agree. No special group wants their TOS violated. Thanks

[Cha]

12. It's the disrespect.. I've had years of experience with this in the Barack Obama Group.. the

intruders can't respect another Group's space but they sure are quick to ban the slightest infraction in their group.

Not that I would ever enter their domain.. I take private Groups' wishes seriously.

Thank you for all your work in Hillary's Room, Hosts!

[brer cat]

18. Exactly, Cha.

Most of us are in one or more protected groups to get a break from the warfare in GD and GD . BOG, AfAm, HOF and others have been hit hard by DUers who seem to revel in being disruptors. It is totally disrespectful of the rules of DU.

[riversedge]

15. Thanks and keep up the good work.

[Tarheel_Dem]

4. They're bored in their echo chamber. I have a feeling that most of us have trashed the BS Group &

GDP, so they venture in here to "stir it up". Be aware of the heightened baiting & stalking behavior. Some of our best allies are either on vacation, or one bad hide away from it. I trashed them both, and it made a world of difference in my DU experience.

[still_one]

9. I would like to think we don't intentionally go over to a special group to trash. The GDP is free

game, though it would be nice if folks were respectful.

[McCamy Taylor]

10. I do not trash any Dem. Other Dems need to do the same.

[still_one]

11. ++++++++++++++++++++++

[Cha]

13. I know they're boring me..

Tarheel.

[onehandle]

17. Must also be frustrating for them to know they're going to lose.

'Stirring it up' is all they got.

[BooScout]

14. It's a shame....

...That some people either won't or can't understand that these groups are safe havens for people who share similar opinions and stances regarding their candidate. It's also a shame that some people feel the need to hound and harass us in our safe haven. It's bad enough we are stalked, berated, insulted and alerted on for sheer vindictiveness in GDP, but to come in here and try and stir the pot is immature and childish.

Thanks to our hosts for continuing to keep this place safe, fun and interesting It's a hard job, I know from personal experience. Kudo's to all of you who have stepped up to the plate!

[MADem]

16. Hell, I got booted out of their group for providing a link to a video news article.

The gripe was "No one is covering BERNIE's announcement!!"

I replied with "Yep, they are" and gave links to prove it. Then, a poster over there called me stupid.

No, I'm not making this up:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280796

Keep in mind this was during the height of unrest in Baltimore, too. Some were angered that CNN had the NERVE to cover the murder of Mr. Gray by the police, and not turn CNN into The Bernie Show, or something.

Then, a rather aggressive gatekeeper (wrongly) accused me of "trolling" and became infuriated because my supporting Sanders' entry into the race was insufficient--I had to cough up a loyalty pledge, and I wasn't about to do that.

That was all it took--bam! The boom got lowered!

I never said a single word in criticism of Senator Sanders, The Man, or The Candidate (in fact, I welcomed him to the race), but hey, it's their little group, and they are more than welcome to it!

I will say that vicious, scrabbling anger does little to nothing to help a candidate. If anything, my opinion of Mr. Sanders is slightly lowered, not by what he says, but by what some of the people who PURPORT to support him (and I make that distinction quite deliberately) say. Some of his cheerleaders are doing him no favors--in fact, they're giving him The Business in the Worst Possible Way...!!!

I do think people who live in very thin glass houses shouldn't throw pebbles, never mind stones, though!!!

[1StrongBlackMan]

27. I can top that ...

But in the interest of comity, I will not specify in much detail ... Suffice it to say, a question was asked (about an area I have great interest in) and I responded ... with a link that answered the question ... and got a hand slap by one of the Group's host.

[MADem]

28. Probably the very same one that showed me the door!

I still like Senator Sanders just fine...but I can't say I like some (not all, just a vociferous few) of his supporters overmuch!

[philly_bob]

19. The 'protected room' concept on DU is problematic

because visitors who just look at the greatest page have only the slightest clue what room the OP originated it.

So new visitors get blasted in one of the protected rooms, and think that all of DU is that unfriendly.

I don't know what the answer is. Perhaps a label "Protected Room -- Please Read Terms of Service" when a protected room posting appears on the front page.

[hrmjustin]

20. No it is not unfriendly.

We wang a space where we don't have to argue with Hillary haters.

We are sick of being alert stalked and baited.

[philly_bob]

21. Not unfriendly, eh? "Haters"?

The protected rooms do not welcome alternate points of view. Admit it.

Incidentally, my point would apply equally to a Bernie Sanders protected room.

I'm not especially opposed to the HRC room -- although I got banned from there once) -- I just think the DU admins have to do something to distinguish the opinion-protected boards from the open-discussion boards, especially when posts appear on the "Greatest Page."

[hrmjustin]

22. You are aware you are in the HRC room? I think you have crossed the line.

As host i am asking you to self delete this.

[philly_bob]

23. Actually, I was not aware I was in HRC room.

Which kind of makes my point about how protected groups need to be more clearly distinguished from open discussion boards.

However, sorry, hrmjustin, I will not self-delete my comments, which have nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. I do not consider my comments offensive; I merely say that some protected groups can be seen as "unfriendly" to strangers.

[still_one]

31. Actually, all you need to do is look at the top under the menu items, "Home", "Latest Threads", etc.

and it tells you quite clearly where you are

[MADem]

29. I think the admins should fix the software so that protected room threads

do not appear on the greatest page or the home page of DU at all. They don't need to be "rec'd" -- hell, if you're in a protected group, you're supporting the basic views of the group. Strip out the recs and keep those groups a bit more private--make people work to find them, make them more like clubhouses and less like places where people fling shit from behind a wall.

[George II]

32. I would really welcome that, and it would stop the inane "rec" for "rec's" sake.

[MADem]

33. I think this is a brilliant idea, as well....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12598326

It will definitely slow down some of the bs that has been brewing lately.

[serbbral]

26. Wow!

Don't think I'll be voting for her, but that is their right.

[Gothmog]

30. These groups serve a purpose

[uwep]

34. I was banned from the Sanders group

and I never went to that group. I just responded to some malicious statements made on the home page about Hillary. I even said that I liked Sanders and that he would be more productive if he stayed in the Senate and supported the Democrats. I do not know if he ever declared himself as a Democrat. I even met Hillary at a book signing and commented about the bet she had made with Bow Tie Boy (Tucker Carlson).

[George II]

35. I was too, for innocently responding to a post under "Trending Now" on the Home Page.

They way those posts show up there really sucks - protected group posts shouldn't be permitted outside the group. Unfortunately "they" found out that if they "rec" the shit out of their posts they wind up there.

[still_one]

36. I was banned from the Elizabeth Warren group for saying she wouldn't be running for

President in 2016. I honestly made a mistake thinker Ng I was in the GD forum, and did appologize, but groups decide the rules, and I understood it was not personal

I am now very careful to see where I post, so it made me more aware