Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumHold the phone, kids! Sanders has a good and realistic idea!
So you all know that I am with her. And I really do think that Sanders would have made a terrible president.
And I have been vocal in my disgust with people saying, "We're going to do all these things!" and not acknowledging that we can't and it is our own fault that we can't, because we don't sufficiently support the down-ticket and the midyear elections.
Well, check this out:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-congress_us_5720e608e4b0b49df6a9c933
A PAC (ahem) that supports down ticket and off year elections!
While I think Sanders would have been a disastrous president, he just might be able to make positive and lasting change with this.
I'll be looking to see that the implementation is realistic, but if it is, I'll work hard for an effort like this.
Hillary as President and Sanders doing this? I have an "all's well that ends well" feeling about this.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Cannot go around bullying people. If bullying is part of the agenda I pass!
Glad you're excited. I want good things for our Party and our country.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)That nips it in the bud. You can't take the positions of someone who will be safely elected in a blue state until he retires and transpose them on to candidates for local office nationwide. It just won't work. Bernie Sanders couldn't get elected dog catcher in my state. NC-Bernie Sanders 2.0 with a twang would fair just as well.
This has the chance of costing seats by financially boosting candidates who due to their policies or electoral skills couldn't catch fire in their home districts and setting them up for defeat by home grown republicans. And I doubt they would work with the Statewide party organizations that really, truly know the state.
I want a 50 state policy. I just don't think idealistic progressives from safely blue northern states should be running it/in charge of picking candidates.
Gman
(24,780 posts)That maybe agree with him on some issues. I hate what is going on with DWS and the whining loser running against her that's piggy-backing on Sanders. If it's that kinda thing, I'm out.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)This pac sounds like a coup in the making. I'd respect them more if they built their own party instead of stealing ours.
Treant
(1,968 posts)much less in Mississippi.
Now if they were actually nuanced and said something like, "Positions that are as liberal as they can be in their individual districts," I'd be more likely to find this workable.
But as we know, Sanders does not do nuance.
BootinUp
(47,156 posts)2) Don't Try Too Hard To Pass Legislation
Help me out with this. lol.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)That sounds like a sucky idea to me. Any nut job republican can pass a Bernie Bros purity test. I think Bernie Sanders and his anti-Democratic followers are dangerous and intent upon destroying our party and Liberalism.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)As others have pointed out, this plan targets currently serving Ds who aren't fanatical enough to pass the Sanders purity test. That will include moderates as well.
Even if you replaced every sitting Dem with a Sanders clone, you'd still have all the Rs in Congress. Reminder to Sanders: the Rs are the problem, not the Ds. How in the world are you going to replace Rs with a socialist Sanders clone in states where a Blue Dog D can't get elected? You won't.
All this would do - if successful - would be to intensify the DC gridlock, with the gulf between the aisles widening exponentially.
Of course, the biggest joke is that this will all be accomplished in a short two years. Just more proof that the political naifs backing Sanders are living in a private little universe that rarely if ever intersects with reality.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)But first I want the Supreme Court re-balanced, fill the seat that Scalia held and appoint new justices for the seats currently held by Breyer and Ginsberg. Citizens United must be destroyed and gerrymandering must be declared unconditional, then I'm all for it. Otherwise we're going to go round and round and the only thing that will result is a congress that is even more conservative.
I like Sander's and I like some of his ideas, although I'm 100% behind Hillary, but I want to see Sander's go after republican held seats not democrats. He's good at attacking dem's, let's see him go after the far right.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)I'm beyond fed up with giving Sanders credit for his ramblings when it's always other people, and never himself, that does any and all of the hard work to realize results.
ETA: Brand New Congress will also be testing the limits of the "grassroots fundraising machine," as it's much easier for national grassroots donors to support one single candidate than it is to support multiple candidates at multiple levels of government. $27 isn't a big donation, but when you multiply it by a few dozen representatives (depending on the state), a senator, gubernatorial, attorney general, etc, it's going to add up, and that's not going to be a level everyday people can sustain. It's going to mean needing other sources of funding, which will put stress on the purity parade. I'm not looking forward to the results.
savalez
(3,517 posts)to downticket Dems what he's trying to do to HRC.
Am I reading this right? If so, how is that a good thing?
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)This PAC is doing the same thing that the DNC and Hillary Victory Fund does in a targeted way. It is packaged to take away the validity of the Hillary Victory Fund and a further smear of the DNC (which really does need some changes)