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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:16 AM Apr 2016

Sanders: Democratic Party hasn't been fair to me

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-fairness-222355


Bernie Sanders says the Democratic Party hasn't been fair to him — but he has mixed feelings on the nominating process overall.

"Do you think this process has been fair to you? The Democratic nomination process?" moderator Chuck Todd asked the Vermont senator in an interview filmed Saturday in Baltimore and aired Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"Yes and no," Sanders said, going on to criticize the role of the media for neglecting to focus on "real issues facing America." The media, he said, emphasizes "political gossip" rather than "issues that affect working people."

"So it sounds like the party, though, you feel like's been fair to you?" Todd asked Sanders.

"No," Sanders responded. "I think we have— look, we're taking on the establishment. That's pretty clear."


Pointing to the Democratic debate schedule, of which three of the first four took place on weekend nights, Sanders said they were "scheduled — pretty clearly, to my mind, at a time when there would be minimal viewing audience— et cetera, et cetera."

"But you know, that's the way it is. We knew we were taking on the establishment," he said. "And here we are. So [I'm] not complaining."

Todd then asked Sanders if he felt he was "given a fair shot" at the Democratic nomination.

"Yeah, we took advantage of the opportunities in front of us. We are in this race. We are not writing our obituary," Sanders said. "We're in this race to California, and we're proud of the campaign we ran."

Clinton is ahead of Sanders by 750 in POLITICO's delegate count, with superdelegates included -- and could wrap up the nomination even if she loses every remaining state. The Sanders campaign has said it plans to persuade superdelegates to switch sides, but has shown little ability to do so thus far.

But Sanders himself betrayed little sign that he intends to quit the race before the final round of contests on June 7, when six states will hold presidential primaries.


Oh really??? I think not...we been to good to you....
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Sanders: Democratic Party hasn't been fair to me (Original Post) Iamaartist Apr 2016 OP
Todd should ask Hillary the same question SharonClark Apr 2016 #1
Oh, Let's get out the really tiny violins! BOO******HOO, BS! Cha Apr 2016 #2
LOL Iamaartist Apr 2016 #8
Bernie is echoing The Donald!! riversedge Apr 2016 #17
He is? is trump whining the "gop isn't being fair to him"? Cha Apr 2016 #18
Well, he did a lot of that early in his campaign. Don't know if he has whinned recently riversedge Apr 2016 #22
This week, Trump was calling the R system rigged. stopbush Apr 2016 #43
They're both big time whiners. Cha Apr 2016 #44
Maybe BERNIE you ran in the wrong party to begin with???? Iamaartist Apr 2016 #3
What a cry baby. 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #4
I cant cant imagine a whiner either....maybe time for him to retire,take a long trip... Iamaartist Apr 2016 #5
He already took one long trip LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #34
NO, Kidding! I just wrote on another thread about this.. that I cannot wait Cha Apr 2016 #7
+1 savalez Apr 2016 #25
very unsportsmanlike conduct Lil Missy Apr 2016 #6
Ah yes, Bernie. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #9
LOL.... Iamaartist Apr 2016 #10
We're Voting for Hillary! BS: Not Fair! Cha Apr 2016 #12
If he'd spent more time explaining Bluerome Apr 2016 #11
Here's the money quote: procon Apr 2016 #13
"That said, I have a growing concern will he completely break with the Party and strike out on his Cha Apr 2016 #14
Yeah, it's a worrisome thought and something we should be prepared for. nt procon Apr 2016 #19
They're already organizing to disrupt the convention Rose Siding Apr 2016 #64
Easy to do I guess Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #71
"We're in this race to California,.......... riversedge Apr 2016 #15
As he himself said; "We knew we were taking on the establishment," Fla Dem Apr 2016 #16
I have zero confidence Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #20
I agree. I hope this is brought up at the convention and rules livetohike Apr 2016 #33
I see that happening at DNC meetings. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #35
Yep. We need to adopt what I'm calling the Sanders Rule: stopbush Apr 2016 #45
Excellent Idea! nt. Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #65
I like it! NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #73
Yep sarae Apr 2016 #36
Agree apcalc Apr 2016 #67
Bernie, the 60's called... Haveadream Apr 2016 #21
Dusty relic of a time long gone. I was a teenager in the 60's. livetohike Apr 2016 #31
OMG! You're right! He's that guy who loitered on college campuses displacedtexan Apr 2016 #38
I'm convinced it had something to do with the chemical formulation stopbush Apr 2016 #46
Me to, those where the days though ,a great era never to be forgotten..... Iamaartist Apr 2016 #48
He IS the establishment, given how long he's been in office. spooky3 Apr 2016 #23
Right? sarae Apr 2016 #37
Weekend debates are the problem? Seriously? displacedtexan Apr 2016 #24
Good one! livetohike Apr 2016 #29
Oh, really? sarae Apr 2016 #26
Oh snap Hekate Apr 2016 #32
Wish he would STFU! Quit running around whining about everything. livetohike Apr 2016 #27
I'm so sick UtahLib Apr 2016 #28
Speaking of face time.... KewlKat Apr 2016 #42
One of the liberal think tanks did...it was on DU a couple weeks ago jmowreader Apr 2016 #69
I have a theory that the more face time he gets savalez Apr 2016 #63
Apparently "being good to him" means we have to vote for him too. savalez Apr 2016 #30
Wah wah says the Senator who is the ranking member of the Budget Committee. SaschaHM Apr 2016 #39
+100000000000000000000000 Cha Apr 2016 #40
perhaps someone should call the ..... KewlKat Apr 2016 #41
LOL Iamaartist Apr 2016 #50
All can say is Get Back ....Bernie.... Beatle video Iamaartist Apr 2016 #47
Right. Because don't live in a digital age where information proliferates ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #49
and hasn't Sanders been in government longer than any other Candidate? savalez Apr 2016 #53
Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #59
It is just sooo ridiculous for a career politician to say he is taking on the "establishment" Lucinda Apr 2016 #51
That's like he answers just about every question and reference to how he voted on bills... George II Apr 2016 #52
The Democratic party and Democrats as a whole DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #54
Oh my........ Historic NY Apr 2016 #55
So Democrats are the 'establishment' nini Apr 2016 #56
And here come the excuses Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #57
Boo freaking hoo dlwickham Apr 2016 #58
Let me ask Justin Timberlake what he thinks Pika78 Apr 2016 #60
Excellent, Pika! Cha Apr 2016 #70
Shut your pie hole Bernie !!! Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #61
I want to say something really bad about Bernie Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #62
Making up any excuse he can think of. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #66
When this election is over, it's time to reclaim the party Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #68
He can just Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #72

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
1. Todd should ask Hillary the same question
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

Since the party has been walking on tip toes trying not to get Sanders and his supporters mad at them.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
22. Well, he did a lot of that early in his campaign. Don't know if he has whinned recently
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:17 PM
Apr 2016

about the Gop not being fair.

Cha

(297,305 posts)
7. NO, Kidding! I just wrote on another thread about this.. that I cannot wait
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

until that *******whining hypocrite gets out and goes away.

Bluerome

(129 posts)
11. If he'd spent more time explaining
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

how his big plans could be accomplished he might have had a chance. Repeating the same lines without details just doesn't work with Democrats. That only works with republicans

procon

(15,805 posts)
13. Here's the money quote:
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary "could wrap up the nomination even if she loses every remaining state."

So what's his game plan? Factor in Sanders failed efforts to persuade the Democratic Party's superdelegates, who already have long and deep ties to secure their pledges to Clinton, to switch sides, and it must be sinking in that he has no viable chance of winning.

That said, I have a growing concern will he completely break with the Party and strike out on his own in a pique of malicious spite to split the voters, throwing the election to Trump, just to prevent Clinton from winning.

Cha

(297,305 posts)
14. "That said, I have a growing concern will he completely break with the Party and strike out on his
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016
own in a pique of malicious spite to split the voters, throwing the election to Trump, just to prevent Clinton from winning."

I'm thinking he's just bitter and spiteful enough to do that.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
64. They're already organizing to disrupt the convention
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

-even including info about buses to it in the BS group right here on DU

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
15. "We're in this race to California,..........
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

We will see after Tuesday--if his donors will ante up more $$


.........."Yeah, we took advantage of the opportunities in front of us. We are in this race. We are not writing our obituary," Sanders said. "We're in this race to California, and we're proud of the campaign we ran."

Fla Dem

(23,690 posts)
16. As he himself said; "We knew we were taking on the establishment,"
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016

He is nothing more than an interloper. Using the infrastructure of the DNC to his benefit, getting press off of running as a Dem, and participating in the Dem Debates. Except for the exposure he got in those debates, he would be little more than any other 3rd party candidate.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
20. I have zero confidence
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders will endorse Sec. Clinton for President. He's no Democrat and right now he is more interested in promoting his own "brand" than helping to elect any Democrats. As someone who has voted Democratic for my entire life, I gotta say, this idea of allowing a non-Deamocrat to use the money and machinery of the party to damage the likely nominee was a terrible idea.

I hope the party has learned its lesson.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
45. Yep. We need to adopt what I'm calling the Sanders Rule:
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

"Any person wishing to enter the Dem presidential primaries must be a member in good standing of the D Party for five consecutive years leading up to and including the day they announce their candidacy for president."

And, yes, I have sent that suggestion off to the DNC.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
36. Yep
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:45 PM
Apr 2016

And even if he does, how credible would an endorsement be after all the things he's said? I'm thinking at this point, no one would take any "endorsement" of his seriously.

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
67. Agree
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:15 PM
Apr 2016

He said he used the party to get media coverage.
IMO he has no allegiance to the party, has not supported down ballot Dems, has never held a Dem fundraiser, sued the Dem party, his team hacked into Clinton's server, and now HE says the Democratic party wasn't fair.

And BEYOND THAT, he thinks he might try to persuade super-delegates to support him?


That takes alot of gall. What nerve from an ungrateful interloper. Tuesday can't come soom enough for me.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
21. Bernie, the 60's called...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

They want their slogan back.


"No," Sanders responded. "I think we have— look, we're taking on the establishment. That's pretty clear."


Say something NEW. For the love of all that is holy, say something new.






livetohike

(22,145 posts)
31. Dusty relic of a time long gone. I was a teenager in the 60's.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:34 PM
Apr 2016

He was not a hippie. He was part of the radical,street corner, pamphlet passing crowd. The ones with the wild look in their eyes not caused by LSD.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
38. OMG! You're right! He's that guy who loitered on college campuses
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

and complained how even Democrats always abandon their own platforms when they get elected because they're sell outs. I remember those guys. They had nothing to offer but negative propaganda... and drugs for sale.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
46. I'm convinced it had something to do with the chemical formulation
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:23 PM
Apr 2016

of Herbal Essence Shampoo when it first hit the market. Something in that stuff leeched through the scalp and affected the brain.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
48. Me to, those where the days though ,a great era never to be forgotten.....
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

Not a teen in the early 60s but in the middle 60s.....for me....

sarae

(3,284 posts)
37. Right?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:48 PM
Apr 2016

See how well it's worked for him, smashing the system from the inside for all those years?

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
24. Weekend debates are the problem? Seriously?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016
Pointing to the Democratic debate schedule, of which three of the first four took place on weekend nights, Sanders said they were "scheduled — pretty clearly, to my mind, at a time when there would be minimal viewing audience— et cetera, et cetera."


Sitting on a sofa on a SUNDAY AFTERNOON
Goin' to the candiadates' debate


Well, here's to you, Mr. Sanders, Sir. Weekend debates are not new.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
26. Oh, really?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016
The media, he said, emphasizes "political gossip" rather than "issues that affect working people."

The media? Media like Rosario Dawson talking about Monica Lewinsky or Hillary being indicted? Oh wait - that was your paid surrogate!

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
27. Wish he would STFU! Quit running around whining about everything.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:31 PM
Apr 2016

He is lucky he was permitted to run as a Democrat.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
42. Speaking of face time....
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:11 PM
Apr 2016

anyone done an analysis of how many appearances all the other candidates have gotten compared to Hillary? It seems extremely lopsided overall and I swear that she's no where near the number that BS has had.....anyone? any source on this?

add to less quality face time AND the negative crap EVERYONE is throwing at her.........I'm surprised she's doing as well as she has...................

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
69. One of the liberal think tanks did...it was on DU a couple weeks ago
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:25 AM
Apr 2016

I don't have the link, sorry, but it was pretty damning: Trump and Sanders are getting the most TV interviews and positive press, followed by Cruz and Kasich. Clinton is receiving the least interviews, the least positive press and, of course, the most negative press.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
39. Wah wah says the Senator who is the ranking member of the Budget Committee.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

I really hope we retake the Senate with votes to spare, just so the big bad "establishment" can cut him loose, strip him of his assignments, and let him beg for scraps from the republicans so his final years in the Senate aren't as wasted as his previous 25.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
49. Right. Because don't live in a digital age where information proliferates
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

All over the place, oh wait, yeah we do. I can pretty much guarantee that anyone who is remotely interested in American politics, has heard of Sanders, if not his message. Weren't some counting on click polls the thing of hope and beauty?



Sanders shouldn't be using debates either. He lost all of them by most accounts. It's not the "establishment'--it's the message of the candidates. Most voters like Hillary's message better, by latest count.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
51. It is just sooo ridiculous for a career politician to say he is taking on the "establishment"
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

Dude has been a member of one of THE MOST EXCLUSIVE "establishment" clubs on the planet for a quarter of a century. The US Congress. And we are supposed to think that he is suddenly going to be a leader and fix things?

George II

(67,782 posts)
52. That's like he answers just about every question and reference to how he voted on bills...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

...in Congress: "Yes and no"

Always and ever the equivocator.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
54. The Democratic party and Democrats as a whole
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

have been more than fair to this interloper. He can take his whining self and go sit in a corner and pout.

nini

(16,672 posts)
56. So Democrats are the 'establishment'
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:51 PM
Apr 2016

so why did he join the establishment to run for president? Isn't that exactly opposite of what he preaches?

He needs to go away and the sooner the better.

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
62. I want to say something really bad about Bernie
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

But since his supporters are stalking us here in the HRC, I'll just go on a Twitter rant the hashtag will start off with a world rhyming in DUCK

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
68. When this election is over, it's time to reclaim the party
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:22 PM
Apr 2016

1) Registered Democrats only in primaries and caucuses
2) Only registered Democrats (or accepted, known substitutes, such as the DFL in Minnesota) should be allowed to run as Democrats

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
72. He can just
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:17 AM
Apr 2016

Kiss my you know what !!! Dude has never been a Democrat is his life, he's more like an uninhibited houseguest who doesn't know when to leave !

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