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Sanders says he has lost primaries to Clinton because poor people dont vote
rivers http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141426518
Just his latest lame excuse. It's the Southern States, They're not caucus states, not enough people know about him.. even though he has Mega Million $$$$$$ rallies with thousands of people that do NOT translate into votes.. whose fault is that? Anymore excuses to whine about? How about that interview with the NYDN?! I think we got to know him all too well and how much he doesn't know.
Hillary's Group~Mahalo
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)with on why he's losing to Hillary.
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)MFM008
(19,816 posts)just not for him.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Can you even believe this BS?
Who in the world tries to be so divisive like this in a Dem primary?!!
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Guessing here.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Now why would we ever loathe effing BS?!
stop.. thank you!
all american girl
(1,788 posts)Let's see which voter group goes under the bus after tuesday...I think they are running out
Cha
(297,323 posts)and all the member of Congress, who didn't endorse him, as #SoEstablishment.. So. who's left to whine about?!
I think he's covered all the bases of those who prefer the best candidate, Hillary Clinton~
Mahalo~
ncovington89
(17 posts)He may pull through with the popular vote, and if not he might be chosen by the Superdelegates because he is more electable. Last but not least, there are those who work within the FBI who say an indictment is ahead or at least possible. Sanders is not through.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)This is the Hillary group.....perhaps you found your way in the wrong group? I doubt your a BSS as you've come awfully late to the game......only 6 posts after months of campaigning?
Cha
(297,323 posts)Past, Completed.. Kaput.
He doesn't deserve to win.. he doesn't have what it takes to be the President.. I'll be so glad when it's official.
Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)That's probably your best bet!
Cha
(297,323 posts)I stole it from you?
Turandot~
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)that this happens, for sure!
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Legends303
(481 posts)He has a current deficit of 2.4 million votes in the popular vote and his deficit only increased with his NY lost. I know Sanders supporters like to deny reality but don't make up your own facts.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)The last Democratic candidate to run on a platform calling for raising taxes lost 49 states - and Walter Mondale wasn't planning on nationalizing a sixth of the economy like Sanders is.
If Bernie Sanders is our standardbearer we could lose his home state. We WILL lose the other 49.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Love that pie chart! LOLOL!
Cha
(297,323 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141426518
Surya~Mahalo~
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Mahalo~
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)on the side lines railing against what is wrong....sanders has only helped sanders
Cha
(297,323 posts)that now.. or he wouldn't be coming out with all these lies.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)That's really all it takes - the votes. And Sanders has at least 2.5 million fewer votes than Hillary.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Hillary Clinton speaks with attendees during a town hall event at Cumberland United Methodist Church in Florence, S.C.
http://www.npr.org/2016/03/01/468185698/understanding-the-clintons-popularity-with-black-voters
And, stop with the useless excuses he and his team of crack BSrs come up with.. besides that he's either lying or doesn't know what he's talking about, A-gain.
From the link...
Mahalo, Blue~Thank you!
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Little wonder is revolution is over.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)BS doesn't think things through before his lips flap and fingers point does he.
Cha
(297,323 posts)say something that's true.
I just read he said on one of the Sunday shows..
"Democratic Party hasn't been fair to me"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107114117
I cannot wait until that ******* whining hypocrite gets out and goes away.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Are not in the top 6% of wage earners as Sanders, he does not need to kick the largest group in the US.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Mahalo, Thinking~
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)In the GE. I personally feel it is terrible more voters do not vote, it foes not cost us to vote. The ones who cry "I don't have anyone exciting to vote for" and they don't run on the issues I like, those same people are not turning out to vote for Sanders and the issues he has proposed.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)I agree conclusively! lol!!
Thanks for that!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And amusing at the same time!
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Thanks!
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)is not a winning strategy.
Cha
(297,323 posts)whine?
Mahalo, otohara~
pandr32
(11,588 posts)...because of Sanders.
Aloha Cha!
Cha
(297,323 posts)and stop trying to put the blame on everyone under the Sun but himself.
And, stop the gd whining.. it's embarrassing.
Aloha, pandr~
pandr32
(11,588 posts)No way will he take personal responsibility.
Oh well!
lanlady
(7,134 posts)--voters have figured out that he's a professional protester who'd make an ineffective president. It really is that simple!
Cha
(297,323 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)lanlady!
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)It is my understanding that the reason why Sanders is proposing a number of programs that have no chance of passing is that his revolution will force the GOP in congress to be reasonable. The trouble is that there are no signs of this revolution. revolution https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/10/sorry-bernie-sanders-there-is-zero-evidence-of-your-political-revolution-yet/
To succeed, Sanders might have to drive Americans who don't normally participate to the polls. Unfortunately for him, groups who usually do not vote did not turn out in unusually large numbers in New Hampshire, according to exit polling data.
https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1484
...As for Sanders, he credited his victory to turnout. "Because of a huge voter turnout -- and I say huge -- we won," he said in his speech declaring victory, dropping the "h" in "huge." "We harnessed the energy, and the excitement that the Democratic party will need to succeed in November."
In fact, Sanders won by persuading many habitual Democratic primary voters to support him. With 95 percent of precincts reporting their results as of Wednesday morning, just 241,000 ballots had been cast in the Democratic primary, fewer than the 268,000 projected by New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner last week. Nearly 289,000 voters cast ballots in the state's Democratic primary in 2008.
To be sure, the general election is still seven months away. Ordinary Americans might be paying little attention to the campaign at this point, and if Sanders wins the nomination, he'll have the help of the Democratic Party apparatus in registering new voters. The political revolution hasn't started, though, at least not yet.
Without this revolution, I am not sure how Sanders proposes to advance his unrealistic agenda.
I live in the real world and I simply do not believe that Sanders' agenda is realistic and the lack of any evidence of a Sanders revolution reinforces my opinion
Please vote for the candidate of your choice for any reason that you deem appropriate. Others are free to vote for the candidate of their choice based on the facts as they see them
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)The Sanders revolution has been a bust http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-new-york-primary-213829
And yet, the revolution that Sanders called for didnt show up. Clintons 16-point New York win is simply the exclamation point. First, electorally, Sanders hasnt been able to win any states on Clintons natural turf, while she picked off states like blue-collar Ohio and quintessentially liberal Massachusetts. Eleven of his 16 state wins were in low-turnout caucus states, while she has dominated well-populated primary states. He struggled to win the votes of older voters and whiffed with Southern African-Americans.
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But on a more important level, Sanders has also failed to substantially change the Democratic Party at its core: its acceptance of big-dollar fundraising and incremental policy advancement. That was a tough task for Sanders, especially considering he had steered clear of the party for most of his political career until his presidential quest (prompting Hillary to remark at one point, Im not even sure he is a Democrat). For all his success at the polls, Sanders ideologically pure campaign foundered on the predictable shoals of policy specifics and political feasibility, obstacles that a progressive populist movement will need to overcome to truly succeed.....
Another Sanders misstep was making his campaign look like a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party apparatusa great strategy for winning left-leaning independents but not so much for the larger pool of registered Democrats.
In January, he downplayed Clinton endorsements from Planned Parenthood Action Fund, NARAL Pro-Choice America and the Human Rights Campaign as coming from the establishment. In a fundraiser email in support of a candidate running in a Nevada House primary, he took a gratuitous swipe at EMILYs List, a major funder of female Democrats. And instead of working with the Democratic National Committee to raise money for a wider range of congressional candidates, the Sanders campaign attacked Hillary Clinton for doing so at a big-dollar fundraiser hosted by George Clooney.
The cost was a smooth-talking smackdown from Clooney on Sunday on NBCs Meet The Press: we need to take the Senate back, because we need that fifth vote on the Supreme Court [to] overturn Citizens United and get this obscene, ridiculous amount of money out so I never have to do a fundraiser again.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-new-york-primary-213829#ixzz46asWEZ2w
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Sparkly
(24,149 posts)Black people just aren't informed.
Poor people just don't vote.
And people south of DC just don't matter.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)for Bernie.
Love the graph! Sanders is running out of excuses; the only reason he hasn't used is the only valid one: "not enough votes."
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)To "I" don't, he's never going to truly understand his revolution is fighting windmills.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Bernie Sanders just admitted that his so-called revolution is a failure. Sanders was unable to motivate and get poor people to vote which doomed his so-called revolution http://www.vox.com/2016/4/25/11497822/sanders-political-revolution-vote
The problem with Sanders saying he's losing because "poor people don't vote," though, is that this wasn't a sad truth that he and his campaign discovered over the last several weeks. It or rather, the possibility of fixing it was at the core of his entire theory of winning.
Sanders isn't just running on his policy agenda. He's running on the idea of a "political revolution" that will allow him to accomplish that agenda. The theory of the "political revolution" is that Americans are so eager for free college and Medicare for all that they will not only sweep Bernie Sanders to the White House if he's nominated, but will elect more, and more progressive, Democrats down-ballot will then vote to pass Sanders's agenda through Congress.
Among people who typically vote, these policies aren't that popular. The "political revolution" is only plausible if it's about changing the composition of the electorate: bringing new people to the polls who don't normally vote, even in presidential elections.
But on those grounds, the "political revolution" theory is quite plausible. As Vox's Dylan Matthews pointed out earlier this month, 30 percent of eligible voters aren't registered to vote, or aren't accurately listed in the voter databases that campaigns use. Those voters are basically ignored by candidates. And, just like the nonvoting population as a whole, they're more likely to be poor than voters are and more likely to support liberal policies on government spending.
A candidate who can figure out how to reach out to that 30 percent of voters could actually make a political revolution happen or, at least, bring the median American voter to the left.
Bernie Sanders isn't the candidate who can make the "political revolution" happen
It's hard to mobilize that 30 percent of could-be voters, though. And it's pretty clear, at this point, that Sanders hasn't pulled it off.
Sanders hasn't been pulling in remarkable numbers of first-time primary voters. His base looks a lot like the existing progressive wing of the Democratic Party the people who voted for Howard Dean over John Kerry and Bill Bradley over Al Gore.
The premise of Sanders' so-called revolution is that he would be able to motivate millions and millions of new voters which Sanders has failed to do.