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As seen on Facebook (Hillary Group) (Original Post) Lisa0825 Apr 2016 OP
#BernieMath! sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #1
It does not compute. nt Lisa0825 Apr 2016 #2
Right - OhZone Apr 2016 #3
One of our favorite shows!!!!!! all american girl Apr 2016 #13
Hmm... fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #4
Goalposts be moving... more and more all the time. nt Lisa0825 Apr 2016 #5
The ways they are trying to spin the delegate math is sad... SaschaHM Apr 2016 #6
Yeah, it's like a parallel universe in which the laws of math apply in opposite ways to each of them Lisa0825 Apr 2016 #10
BS CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #7
I know... Lisa0825 Apr 2016 #8
I so hope he doesn't get to speak @ our Democratic Convention.. he's trying to make it ugly Cha Apr 2016 #12
He's probably going to get a speaking spot in the afternoon at this point. SaschaHM Apr 2016 #14
If he is still contesting the nomination I don't think he will get a speaking spot CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #30
There's always a vote. He'll just lose on the 1st ballot, if he doesn't want to be cool and MADem Apr 2016 #16
I have a headache. Treant Apr 2016 #9
Here... this may help... Lisa0825 Apr 2016 #11
Yeah, but it gets passed around like it's true Rose Siding Apr 2016 #25
And boy do they lack a sense of perspective Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #28
The math is very simple, and very wrong jmowreader Apr 2016 #15
Thank you for this. I need something to post to my Sanders FB friends. livetohike Apr 2016 #18
Explain this delusion... jmowreader Apr 2016 #22
Hillary will have more pledged delegates than Sanders, she already has more Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #17
The contested convention BS Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #24
Maybe it's fun for them to pretend Clinton has a higher bar to meet than Bernie? Even when not true? IamMab Apr 2016 #19
At one point, you start to wonder if it's just a joke, KitSileya Apr 2016 #20
Some are RW trolls to keep the "fighting" going. Fla Dem Apr 2016 #21
Well, that is silly and just plain wrong. SharonClark Apr 2016 #23
Not an emoji, but. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #26
Perfect, thanks!!! Will save it for later, as I am sure I'll have a chance to use it again. nt Lisa0825 Apr 2016 #29
The whole contested convention meme is, of course, false. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #27

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
4. Hmm...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016

The myth, the boloney, the delusions, and the psychotics are now on all Bernie’s personalities.

TFTF them.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
6. The ways they are trying to spin the delegate math is sad...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:40 AM
Apr 2016

In their eyes, somehow Clinton has a long ways to go, but Bernie, who is around 230+ delegates behind, doesn't. They left out that Clinton needed about 43-44% of the remaining delegates to have a majority.

Depression is going to hit them when they realize that 29% of the remaining delegates will be at stake on Tuesday and the polls favor Clinton in most of the states. Now I just need to figure out what type of wine I'm going to have with their whine.

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
10. Yeah, it's like a parallel universe in which the laws of math apply in opposite ways to each of them
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:12 AM
Apr 2016

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
7. BS
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:42 AM
Apr 2016

Interesting how BS is not only Sanders initials, it also stand for the quality of Bernie math

First of all the math is wrong and does not include NY. I will put together an OP with the correct numbers soon.

Second they're talking about a "contested convention" as one where Hillary wins many more pledged delegates, but not enough to win the nomination outright without the super delegates.

However, a convention is not "contested" unless it is not settled on the first vote. Whether or not Hillary locks down the nomination before the convention, there will be only one vote. Whether or not she has enough pledged delegates or not, the nomination process will be over after one round of voting when the super delegates vote with everyone else.

Bottom line, the Sanders campaign can call that a "contested convention" if they would like, but Bernie is destined to go down to defeat very early on regardless. Unless he behaves himself, he won't even be invited to speak at the convention.

Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
8. I know...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:52 AM
Apr 2016

I thought about trying to debate the post's points, but I know they are grasping at straws now, and nothing I could say would matter, so I just left it at SMH.

Cha

(297,306 posts)
12. I so hope he doesn't get to speak @ our Democratic Convention.. he's trying to make it ugly
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:18 AM
Apr 2016

to be a Dem.. why should he?

He's not going to succeed.. he's going to be on the junk pile of history. It could have so gone the other way but I guess that wouldn't have been BS, would it have?

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
14. He's probably going to get a speaking spot in the afternoon at this point.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:39 AM
Apr 2016

I doubt any of his surrogates or Jane will get to say anything though.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
30. If he is still contesting the nomination I don't think he will get a speaking spot
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:27 PM
Apr 2016

Now if he is a good boy and agrees to endorse Hillary strongly, He may get a spot to do that. If he is just going to give is same tiresome stump speech, who wants to hear that again?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. There's always a vote. He'll just lose on the 1st ballot, if he doesn't want to be cool and
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:19 AM
Apr 2016

release his delegates so they can present a unified front to the world.

And when it's obvious that one candidate is way ahead of the other, and there's no hope, they'll do it by acclamation.

No matter if he's a spoilsport or gracious, it's going to be over in one vote. The big question will be "Which state gets the honor of 'putting her over the top?'" NY? IL? AR?


That SandersMath business is pretty sad, though--I can't believe they really believe that. It reminds me of the way Bernie Madoff used to con his customers.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
9. I have a headache.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:03 AM
Apr 2016

This isn't spin. This isn't optimism. This is just flat out lying.

They'll claim a stolen convention, of course, based on math that's flat out intentionally wrong.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
25. Yeah, but it gets passed around like it's true
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:58 PM
Apr 2016

It's pretty easy to convince a group that already feels aggrieved that they have another grievance.

They're are already organizing to disrupt the convention.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280183268

Love the part about how it is all "intended" to be peaceful. Now Bernie's on the morning show talking about how the DNC has been unfair to him. He is a real piece of work. He'd have to be stupid not to know he sits on a powder keg.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,033 posts)
28. And boy do they lack a sense of perspective
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:08 PM
Apr 2016

This is nothing like 1968. There is no draft and it's pretty much guaranteed the person with the most votes will get the nomination.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
15. The math is very simple, and very wrong
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:52 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie intends to contest the convention UNLESS she breaks 2383 pledged delegates. That's the first part.

The second is, if Bernie can hit 2383 total by flipping Hillary superdelegates even if she's ahead of him in pledged delegates, he's won the nomination.

Let's pull a couple numbers out of the air. If Hillary shows up in Philadelphia with 2345 pledged delegates - no, I don't think she will, probably more like 2100-2200 - Bernie will challenge every delegate and, if his crew is to be believed, attempt to get some of those people to defect.

Incidentally, the little graphic that pops up when you google "Democratic delegate count" shows that if Hillary can earn 453 delegates on Tuesday, she's got what she needs to take the nomination without factoring in CA or NJ.

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
18. Thank you for this. I need something to post to my Sanders FB friends.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:36 AM
Apr 2016

This morning's delusion is that if Bernie wins 75% of the vote in California he will have more delegates than Hillary.

Fantasy Land.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
22. Explain this delusion...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

Is it that Sanders would have more delegates if he wins 75 percent of CA, or that he could win 75 percent of a state that isn't 95 percent white? Inquiring mind want to know!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
17. Hillary will have more pledged delegates than Sanders, she already has more
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:38 AM
Apr 2016

Super delegates, doesn't matter, more plus more, majority of the delegates will be established in the first vote, ergo, there will nit be a contested DNC convention. The GOP just may have a contested convention but not the DNC this year.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
24. The contested convention BS
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:12 PM
Apr 2016

Is just that. Bullshit.

The Dem rules don't distinguish between pledged and unpledged in voting. Both vote at the same time with their states delegations. Therefore Hillary will easily win the nomination before they get to the last states in the roll call.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
19. Maybe it's fun for them to pretend Clinton has a higher bar to meet than Bernie? Even when not true?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:00 AM
Apr 2016

IDK, getting inside the "mind" of a BernieBro isn't something I want to try to waste any more time on this primary campaign. By every metric except for blind faith, Bernie has lost.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
20. At one point, you start to wonder if it's just a joke,
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:25 PM
Apr 2016

then you realize they are dead serious. And that should make all of us very afraid - these are adults in our society, raising children, going to job, voting.

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