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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:41 PM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders: 'Poor People Don't Vote...That's Just a Fact' ~NBCnews ~ (HRC GP)

Videos in link: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/bernie-sanders-poor-people-don-t-vote-s-just-fact-n561051



When asked why he thinks he's losing in those states, Sanders responded, "Well, because poor people don't vote. I mean, that's just a fact."

In an interview airing on NBC's "Meet the Press" this Sunday, Sanders described the voter turnout among low-income Americans as "a sad reality of American society, and that's what we have to transform."

He credited his campaign with working to bring more young people into the voting process. He explained that they have "had some success with lower income people. But in America today, in the last election in 2014, 80% of poor people did not vote."


Sanders pointed out to a salon.com article to prove his point!!!!
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Bernie Sanders: 'Poor People Don't Vote...That's Just a Fact' ~NBCnews ~ (HRC GP) (Original Post) Her Sister Apr 2016 OP
It is the message, he needs a new speech writer. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #1
What was it about his message that failed to reach those poor voters. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #2
This interview is going to air tomorrow ~ Sunday on Meet the Press Her Sister Apr 2016 #3
Who else is going to be happy when BS isn't all over the place, anymore? Cha Apr 2016 #27
Me! Me! Me! NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #33
Save some for when it finally happens.. Cha Apr 2016 #34
I will be very happy when this is over. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #38
Dead on! pandr32 Apr 2016 #43
Wow! Just wow. Campaign collapse. nt OhZone Apr 2016 #4
Oh for crying out loud Iliyah Apr 2016 #5
Last I saw, age and race were the primary wildeyed Apr 2016 #6
He is losing. Kath1 Apr 2016 #7
That's got to be as close as he's come to saying "poor (aka "BLACK") people's votes...... George II Apr 2016 #8
Yep, another dog whistle ! Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #37
He is so clueless. Lucinda Apr 2016 #9
Like Giordano said, the ineffective left blames its failure on anything other than itself Rose Siding Apr 2016 #39
Yep. Absolutely no awareness that we all just aren't that into him. Lucinda Apr 2016 #45
We need a Democrat President! Her Sister Apr 2016 #10
Agree !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Iamaartist Apr 2016 #46
Who Can't Vote In Caucus States? Elderly, Disabled, PM Workers otohara Apr 2016 #11
If you need a babysitter to go to the caucus that means the babysitter cannot go vote! Her Sister Apr 2016 #12
Good Point otohara Apr 2016 #16
Unless you hire a teenager xmas74 Apr 2016 #21
thank you mercuryblues Apr 2016 #13
uhhhh wut??? DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #14
In the primaries won by HRC, she won the 'income under 30k' in nearly all of them... Princess Turandot Apr 2016 #15
That's me.. way under. Wonder if I'm considered "poor" by his standards? He sure didn't have Cha Apr 2016 #29
It's all over Facebook, and not in a good way. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #17
Wow, really. and not in a good way all over FB?! that's refreshing.. thank you, ism~! Cha Apr 2016 #30
There are lots of registered voters who do not vote asv in 2010 and 2012 and the Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #18
Oh my Goddess, he went there yet again. nt sheshe2 Apr 2016 #19
So tone deaf! mcar Apr 2016 #20
I volunteer with a program katmille Apr 2016 #22
My daughter will be driving this fall. xmas74 Apr 2016 #28
Good for you! katmille Apr 2016 #31
She volunteers all the time xmas74 Apr 2016 #35
I have been debating posting a previous comment by Bernie athena Apr 2016 #23
Oh. Please katmille Apr 2016 #24
OK, I hope I don't disappoint you. athena Apr 2016 #25
That's his latest lame excuse? It couldn't be because his stupid message doesn't Cha Apr 2016 #26
The same could be said about all the young adults who attended Sanders' rallies... KittyWampus Apr 2016 #32
No Bernie Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #36
Now the poor are thrown under the Bernie bus Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #40
Thanks for posting here. I posted inn LBN yesterday and now is locked. riversedge Apr 2016 #41
NBC news source??!! locked!? Her Sister Apr 2016 #42
Empirically he is basically correct, but it's a stupid thing to say bluestateguy Apr 2016 #44
Assuming that's true... savalez Apr 2016 #47
Throwing "poor people" under the bus Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #48

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. What was it about his message that failed to reach those poor voters.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:44 PM
Apr 2016

He had great appeal to college graduates, who tend to be more middle class.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
43. Dead on!
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:00 PM
Apr 2016

Peer pressure plays big-time with this group, too. It would be hard to not take part in the overt support of Sanders among this demographic. No-one likes to go against the tide at that age, yet a few do. I have seen and heard them and applaud them for daring to stand against the trend.
Fads quickly change. If Sanders continues to play the whiny victim card, and lying his face off (as he has over the last several weeks) he will ruin his support with this group and like birds changing direction in mid air, the flock will fly away.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
6. Last I saw, age and race were the primary
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:50 PM
Apr 2016

demographic differences between the candidate's supporters. Sanders' were younger and whiter.... but income was pretty evenly split. Did that change?

He makes excuses. PP and HRC were The Establishment. The South is The Confederacy. The truth is, we are just not that into him, and he lost because he got fewer votes.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. That's got to be as close as he's come to saying "poor (aka "BLACK") people's votes......
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:58 PM
Apr 2016

.....aren't as important and white votes". He's been writing off poor black southern Democrats for months, he's finally getting around to be more open about it.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
39. Like Giordano said, the ineffective left blames its failure on anything other than itself
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:36 AM
Apr 2016

First it was all of us who just hadn't heard The Message, then it was minorities who didn't understand The Message, then The South, then it was conservatives in the South, now it's the poor.

It HAS to be someone else's fault -the rigged system? Corrupt DNC? No self examination whatsoever.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
10. We need a Democrat President!
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:10 PM
Apr 2016
We need a Democrat Congress, Senate and Court! And Mayors and Governors and courts across the States!

This would help stop the GOP gerrymandering that's disenfranchising many across the nation.

This would stop the erosion of many rights across the nation. Obama has been able to curtail a lot of damage that the GOP would've gotten away with.

But our President is not a King! Our constitution made sure of that. He or She cannot do this alone! Needs a majority voting with him or her!

HRC is the candidate to strengthen and grow our party! She has the smart, the personality, the know how, the know who, the flexibility, the strength and the qualifications to build our Party! She is loyal and respectful of our party and our base.


With HER!
 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
11. Who Can't Vote In Caucus States? Elderly, Disabled, PM Workers
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:11 PM
Apr 2016

parents with children who can't afford to get a babysitter for 3-4 hours.

What does he complain about in caucus states - coin tosses!

We have mail ballots for municipal elections - but when it comes to choosing the next president
we pile into small class rooms for a few hours and thousands stay home.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
16. Good Point
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:27 PM
Apr 2016

Talks of the primary returning are in the works but the bros are now demanding it be open to GOP and unaffiliated.
Why be a Democrat?

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
21. Unless you hire a teenager
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:24 PM
Apr 2016

But you don't see much of that anymore. And some wouldn't be allowed to work on a school night, when some of the caucuses occur.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
13. thank you
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:18 PM
Apr 2016

one of my problems with him. He coulda been a contendah. Instead he chose to alienate the people most likely to vote for him. His surrogates did not help him in the least.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
15. In the primaries won by HRC, she won the 'income under 30k' in nearly all of them...
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:25 PM
Apr 2016

per exit polls, and often by a lot. There's no way to know the mix in that number, of course, but it's hard to see how more voters in that category would have helped him.

Sanders has lost and now he's being boorish about it.

Cha

(297,284 posts)
29. That's me.. way under. Wonder if I'm considered "poor" by his standards? He sure didn't have
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:09 PM
Apr 2016

my vote. We vote alright.. just not for his hogwash.

Cha

(297,284 posts)
30. Wow, really. and not in a good way all over FB?! that's refreshing.. thank you, ism~!
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:12 PM
Apr 2016

#poorsontvoteBS True, from my view!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
18. There are lots of registered voters who do not vote asv in 2010 and 2012 and the
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:00 PM
Apr 2016

Republicans cleaned out clock in Congress. I read numerous post complaining "they just didn't have anything to vote". Too many complain and never take the proper action.

katmille

(213 posts)
22. I volunteer with a program
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:46 PM
Apr 2016

That serves low income people in my community. We partner with the local food bank, community garden and health providers. These people are poor, but proud and they DO vote. We offer rides to polling places and/or help with registering to vote.

We meet on Tuesdays and I can't tell you how often over the years when I arrive on an Election Day (or during voting periods) I have seen some of the clients with their "I voted" sticker on. They are usually very pleased to tell us that they have voted! So, yes, poor people vote. Except when people like our governor -- and Wisconsin's governor and Ohio's governor and North Carolina's governor -- among others make it hard, sometimes impossible to vote.

Just because they are poor or disabled doesn't mean they are less of a citizen than any young, able bodied, mobile, middle class or affluent Bernie supporter.
Maybe they just "don't vote" for someone who dismisses them so easily!

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
28. My daughter will be driving this fall.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:06 PM
Apr 2016

She already has permission to take the GE off from school and assist with driving to the polls. At least I said she could.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
35. She volunteers all the time
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:26 AM
Apr 2016

And the local Democratic organizations are really good about setting up car pools to the polls.

athena

(4,187 posts)
23. I have been debating posting a previous comment by Bernie
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:50 PM
Apr 2016

which, when combined with this one, has pretty interesting connotations. But it's an offensive comment, and even though Bernie is the one who said it, I suspect Bernie supporters wouldn't think twice before voting to hide it, while continuing to argue that their candidate never does or says anything wrong.

It's become so difficult to post on DU!

Cha

(297,284 posts)
26. That's his latest lame excuse? It couldn't be because his stupid message doesn't
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:03 PM
Apr 2016

resonate with "poor people"?

In case BS hasn't noticed this is not 2014 anymore.

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
36. No Bernie
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:53 AM
Apr 2016

You've lost because most Democrats just don't like you and your half baked ideas for a Revolution !

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
44. Empirically he is basically correct, but it's a stupid thing to say
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:28 PM
Apr 2016

Much like the Obama "bitter" comments in 2008--also made on the eve of the Pennsylvania primary--were actually quite accurate.

That said, those comments likely cost him primary votes in PA, and maybe even a few votes later in the Fall.

Just because something could be true doesn't mean it needs to be said, and by a politician at that. We are electing a president, not a political scientist.

And to pivot from what he said, ok why then are poor folks not responding to the Bernie Revolution? A few are, but not nearly enough, and Hillary is winning her share of poor voters herself. So is Donald Trump (they think Trump will make them winners in life. Fat chance.)

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
48. Throwing "poor people" under the bus
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:33 PM
Apr 2016

I though Socialist LOVED the poor ! Can this man become even more of a jerk than he already is ???

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