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Tarc

(10,476 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:30 PM Apr 2016

The absurd Bernie meme that won't die; "the voters just don't know him yet"



Sanders declared on 26 May 2015, the first Democratic debate was 15 Oct 2015. The voters have had many, many months to know you Mr. Sanders; to paraphrase the Book of Daniel, you have been weighed in the balances, and found wanting.
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The absurd Bernie meme that won't die; "the voters just don't know him yet" (Original Post) Tarc Apr 2016 OP
A couple of things about that. griffi94 Apr 2016 #1
Point of fact: I liked him BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #2
That's how I feel metroins Apr 2016 #6
i liked him too, but changed to hillary DesertFlower Apr 2016 #11
hah sarae Apr 2016 #8
Bingo. Treant Apr 2016 #13
Mine too. athena Apr 2016 #17
Ding-ding-ding; We have a winner. fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #15
we came mercuryblues Apr 2016 #3
The more they know - OhZone Apr 2016 #4
I have noticed that griffi94 Apr 2016 #9
Doesn't makes sense. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #5
When are they supposed to get to know him? shenmue Apr 2016 #7
To paraphrase Nancy Pelosi... jmowreader Apr 2016 #27
Not knowing him is probably working to his advantage. savalez Apr 2016 #10
good point. nt DesertFlower Apr 2016 #12
They just won't admit it, they DO know him and they don't like him... George II Apr 2016 #14
And, Milliions and Millions of $$$$$$$$$$ & Huge Million $$$$$$ Rallies later.. & plastered all OVER Cha Apr 2016 #16
Who cares, now they never will CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #18
If people don't know him Jamaal510 Apr 2016 #19
What a sad commentary for someone who's been draggin' ass across Capitol Hill for decades. n/t Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #20
angry old white men starts wearing thin...when I put the sound on mute, sanders looks like beachbum bob Apr 2016 #21
It's the exact opposite. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #22
All anyone has to know about him is he said Hillary wasn't qualified. livetohike Apr 2016 #23
Here's thought 72DejaVu Apr 2016 #24
The more I know, the less I like liberal N proud Apr 2016 #25
To a certain extent it is true if they really knew him his negatives would be higher book_worm Apr 2016 #26
I liked him a whole lot more BEFORE I got to know him better. Lucinda Apr 2016 #28

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
1. A couple of things about that.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

The first thing is if the voters just don't know
Bernie yet, well then he is well and truly screwed since
after Tuesday most of the states will have voted so there's no time now to get to know him.

The second thing is this.
If he's drawing these huge rallies and has these millions of followers on social media
then how can they not know him.

You can't argue that he's winning because his rallies are at capacity and then claim
he's an unknown.

Typical dudebro crap.
Just keep making shit up.

Sounds a bit like their candidate.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
2. Point of fact: I liked him
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

a LOT better when I didn't know him as well as I have come to know him over these past few weeks.

I believe that I am in good company.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
6. That's how I feel
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016

When he announced, I said crazy Sanders with crazy hair is running.

Then I liked him, because he started talking issues.

1st debate happened, I switched to Hillary because she sounded the most intelligent.

Late February I turned against Sanders because he turned negative, his campaign accuses Hillary of rigging the votes, he hasn't given much detail about how this stuff gets passed and the biggest thing, he seems intent on fracturing the Democratic party.

I used to be able to point to the GOP as the children, but as Bernie starts to realize he's losing, his campaign is throwing a tantrum. I lost a lot a of respect I had for him as a Senator....he's running for the nomination, with no real path to win, yet still heavily fundraising. The super delegates he railed against for so long are now his campaign strategy. No thank you, hypocrisy at its finest.

Hillary is still the one acting like an adult in the entire election.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
11. i liked him too, but changed to hillary
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:15 PM
Apr 2016

after the 2nd debate. realized she had a better chance of getting things done. basically, she's more qualified.

i don't like him now either since he turned negative.

athena

(4,187 posts)
17. Mine too.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:50 PM
Apr 2016

I didn't have a problem with him early in the campaign. I even sent him money because I thought that he would pull Hillary to the left and that having to win the nomination would make Hillary stronger in the general election. Then he started attacking Hillary in ways that would hurt the Democratic Party in the general election. The more I learned about him, the less I liked him.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
15. Ding-ding-ding; We have a winner.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:48 PM
Apr 2016

Feel exactly the same. I'm really taken aback over his campaign and how it had deteriorated to nasty. It's even on his face a lot now. Kick myself a bit for letting him fly under my radar.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
3. we came
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:44 PM
Apr 2016

we saw, were not impressed.

Now maybe if he had spent the last few decades supporting equally progressive candidates and getting them into office, things might be different. I might believe he had a chance to pull off some of his platform. Nothing he is promising has a chance in hell to pass through the gNOp filibuster machine.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
9. I have noticed that
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:05 PM
Apr 2016

His fans were bitchin about there being a media blackout on Bernie.
The that high profile interview with NYDN and the debate right before
the NY primary.

He was not just beaten...he was baked.
Bernies best forum seems to be the big rally. Big noise, no substance.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
5. Doesn't makes sense.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

Because if the voters did really know Bernie, at least some of them would abandon ship.

The media has given him a free pass on his biography. There are videos of him praising Castro, Communist Cuba, and the Sandinistas (check out youtube). There are speeches he made in Cuba and Nicaragua where it is very likely that he said some very not-nice things about his home country.

Knowing his full biography is his campaign's greatest fear. They know that the Republicans have thoroughly researched this and are holding their powder. Bolshevik Bernie, I expect will be theme of many of their ads.

The Republicans haven't said a peep about him. They want him to be the nominee.

It's a ridiculous meme.

savalez

(3,517 posts)
10. Not knowing him is probably working to his advantage.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:09 PM
Apr 2016

I knew of him and that's why I ain't voting for him.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. They just won't admit it, they DO know him and they don't like him...
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:30 PM
Apr 2016

....even his "demographic", young voters, don't show up to vote for him.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
16. And, Milliions and Millions of $$$$$$$$$$ & Huge Million $$$$$$ Rallies later.. & plastered all OVER
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:37 PM
Apr 2016

the TV for @ least year.. whose fault is that?!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
19. If people don't know him
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:48 AM
Apr 2016

not only after all these months during the primaries, but also after the past several decades of him serving public office, that's pretty sad on his part. It means that he's not as influential as some of his supporters paint him as.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
21. angry old white men starts wearing thin...when I put the sound on mute, sanders looks like
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:11 AM
Apr 2016

any crazy conservative ranting and raving about this and that....he has never built consensus and always takes the extra step to alienate.....thats my take on watching him in congress for decades...I agree with much what he says but he can't get anything done...couldn't has a congressman or a senator....and zero chance as president....

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. It's the exact opposite.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:21 AM
Apr 2016

Much of his early "success" can be attributed in part to the fact that voters didn't know him. As time goes on, and as the scrutiny increased, people decided that they didn't like what they saw, or they didn't believe what they heard.

livetohike

(22,147 posts)
23. All anyone has to know about him is he said Hillary wasn't qualified.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:33 AM
Apr 2016

That goes straight to his judgement, character, temperament and common sense. All of which are lacking.

This was the turning point in his campaign, in my opinion.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
24. Here's thought
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:48 AM
Apr 2016

Maybe if you are a career back bencher who has never distinguished yourself enough to become well known, you aren't presidential material.

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