If you have more bad to say about Hillary than about Republicans... HRC Room

[hrmjustin]

HILLARY CLINTON ROOM




THUS ENDETH THE LESSON!

[ismnotwasm]

1. Heh!

Love it.

[Iliyah]

3. K & R

Saw where someone posted a thread on why so many Trump threads. .

Everyday tons of negative threads on HRC and the positive ones get attacked. They have to pull HRC down while praising theirs. Same s**t daily. I believe they are fearful that their choice will not win.

[sheshe2]

4. Bravo!!!!!!!!!!

Truth. Nailed it!

[Gloria]

5. Exactly right...

The extreme negativity towards Clinton is over the top...at worst, it reflects political immaturity. There is no rational reason for someone who calls themselves a Democrat
to talk like a Republican ...it shows how the extremes of right and left merge...

This reminds me of the Obama crowd on 08...in 2 instances, I expressed some doubts and was cut off by a "friend"...
And, if you recall Buzzflash was so one-sided for Obama and so anti Clinton, that I actually ended my stint with them that had gone for about 8 years post Gore/Bush. I did not to contribute anymore to that site because I did not want to be identified with that sort of stuff...

[murielm99]

6. What I can't believe are some of the sources

they are using to attack her. They are justifying the use of some of the most right-wing crap around. We used to have higher standards. I have never seen this before, even in past primary silly seasons.

This is not silly season. It is hate season.

[brer cat]

9. Amen.

Feel the hate.

[Tikki]

12. Amen again....

Tikki

[rpannier]

11. You probably missed the comment from 2008

someone the Clintons knew had died
And some idiot posted something to the effect, 'Another day, another associate of the Clintons found dead. I'm not surprised.'
I alerted it and nothing happened

[murielm99]

13. In 2008, I supported Hillary until after

the primaries. I did not express my support publicly at any events, because I was a party chair then. County parties and most Democratic organizations do not endorse until after the primary. My friends knew my preference, but that was all.

At DU, I was called a PUMA and mass-alerted. IRL, I was the person obtaining Obama signs, bumper stickers and buttons. I was organizing our headquarters and phone banking for Obama, as well as local candidates.

I expect this type of immaturity from DU. I learn a lot here, but many of the people on DU are keyboard kommandos. The ones who are activists are often participating in their first campaign.

[SunSeeker]

14. Thanks for actually working on Dem campaigns.

Yes, I get the feeling most here do little more than snipe from their keyboards.

[McCamy Taylor]

20. There were so many people using Freeper speak---and no one seemed to notice.

Or, if they noticed, they did not care. I think that some people are very politically naive and can not tell the difference between honest Democratic dialogue and CREEPy interference. Maybe you have to have lived through 1968 and 1972 to tell the difference.

[NYC Liberal]

22. I remember that. It was this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4712608

Really ugly stuff.

[rpannier]

23. That was it

I was appalled that it happened
And more disgusted that my alert was never acted upon

[fbc]

7. nm

didn't realize this was the HRC room.

[SunSeeker]

8. K & R

[Skittles]

10. I don't support Hillary because of her IWR vote, but the Hillary Hysteria here is WAY over the top

and OF COURSE I would vote for her if she is the nominee - NO QUESTION

[McCamy Taylor]

21. Thank you.

[yallerdawg]

28. I'm curious.

"Because of that vote."

We are talking about the junior senator from New York, where thousands died and millions were affected when our government had said "No worries."

You really expected Hillary to stand up, representing that constituency, and tell them and us, "No worries"?

Have you ever watched her entire speech? Read the transcript?

This one vote.

I look for progress, not (hindsight) perfection. So what, if she said no. Wouldn't have changed a damn thing.

And, if she voted no, I am sure we'd hear the next reason you don't support Hillary.

[Martin Eden]

31. I'll answer that question.

Like Skittles, I think some of the anti-Hillary posts are way over the top and I will support the Democratic nominee in the general election. However, Hillary Clinton (and John Kerry, Joe Biden, et al) lost my vote in Democratic primaries when they voted to give GW Bush authority to invade Iraq. If they didn't know Bushco was hell bent on that course and was feeding the American people a load of bogus fearmongering, they're not nearly as intelligent as they appear to be.

I'm not looking for reasons to not support Hillary. I wish she and the Democratic Party as a whole would stand united to oppose disastrous wars that do more to perpetuate than to defeat terrorism. I wish my Party would end its cozy relationship with big Wall Street donors and stand united to enact meaningful reforms of the financial industry, punish the criminals, and dismantle banks too big to fail.

Now, I'm curious about this paragraph you wrote:
We are talking about the junior senator from New York, where thousands died and millions were affected when our government had said "No worries."

Do you intend that as an argument to justify Hillary's vote for the IWR?

If so, it makes no sense whatsoever.

A representive of the people of New York should have been determined to see the perpetrators of the 9/11 attack brought to justice and action taken to destroy the al Qaeda terrorist network. FYI: Iraq had nothing to do with it. In fact, shifting focus and resources away from Afghanistan gave al Qaeda and the Taliban the opportunity to regroup and become a force again.

Yes, I really expected the junior senator from New York to stand up and represent her constituency. Sadly, by voting for the IWR she failed utterly in her most important responsibility when strong leadership was needed the most.

[hrmjustin]

33. This kind of post is not allowed in here.

Last edited Tue Jul 7, 2015, 03:59 PM - Edit history (1)

Sorry but there were warnings this was the HRC room.

[yallerdawg]

34. Thank you, Justin.

Nothing - nothing! - irritates me more than that simple-minded failure of an argument about something so plain and understandable, something explained repeatedly in Hillary's own words, something so meaningless in the context of reality, something so ginned-up like all the rest!

'Out there' it belongs with all the other anti-Hillary inarguable echo chamber/inside the bubble drivel most Democrats don't pay any attention to, but at a Democratic site, in a pro-Hillary group, it is still particularly annoying and rude.

It makes me real ...

[hrmjustin]

35. I wish they would respect our space.

[CherokeeDem]

15. The lesson is good....

... and praise to the teacher.

I'm like Skinner.... I never expected to see such vitriol spewed at Democrats by other Democrats.

I was very naive.

Good job, hrmjustin!

[Change has come]

16. OMG

Such drama

[hrmjustin]

18. It is how i feel.

[freshwest]

17. LOL!

[McCamy Taylor]

19. K&R

[Thinkingabout]

24. K & R

[hrmjustin]

25. kicking.

[JoePhilly]

26. Its pretty transparent.

[hrmjustin]

27. Yep!

[OnionPatch]

29. Cute

But I assume it's a given here at DU that Republicans suck in every way. We aren't trying to decide whether or not to vote for them. We already know we won't. We are, however, trying to decide who to vote for in the primaries, so Hillary and Bernie are both open to criticism in my opinion.

[hrmjustin]

30. It is how many of us in this safe haven feel.

[mcar]

32. K&R

for the truth. Same thing with President Obama on this site - some people just want to tear him down and ignore the unprecedented obstructionism he's faced.

Just today, there's another thread with people going on about how Obama could have gotten single payer if he used the "bully pulpit."

These are, of course, the same posters who deride the President's amazing speeches as just more talk.

Republicans should be the target of our ire. We have some excellent primary candidates and many good ideas are being expressed. I think it's possible to praise HRC, Sanders or O'Malley for a good idea, a good crowd at a rally or a good interview without knocking down the other Dems.

[freshwest]

36. Just had to come back to LOL again! n/t