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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:46 PM Apr 2016

Here's a post that I thought you might like to read.

From tigerakabj over at Politicalwire.com:

I put "establishment" in quotes to highlight Bernie's overuse of the word. Bernie has been a part of the political scene for over 30 years. He's not an outsider. Push him out of the race? The Democrats nicely let him run under their banner, using established infrastructure to run his campaign. They didn't have to. And furthermore if he can't take a little "strong arming" here, how will he beat a trillion$ "oligarchy?"

Bernie, by his own admission, chose to run as a Democrat b/c he understood raising enormous sums of money, getting media exposure, etc. would be next to impossible as an independent. He decided to run under a party banner, and so must obey party rules and do what is in the best interest of the party as a whole. If he were to win the nomination he would be head of the party.

Bernie has to show respect to get it. And after 30 years of not joining the party, calling for a primary to challenge to President Obama, and taking a bludgeon to the party's alliances (e.g. Emily's List, Planned Parenthood), he is not in any position to start with high demands.

Part of that "establishment" that will begin to put him out of his misery is Elizabeth Warren, the true cop of Wall Street whose actually gotten something done with regards to protecting consumers (e.g. CFPB). She is the one who encouraged Clinton to get in the race, along with other female senators. The majority of Bernie's supporters that care deeply about this issue originally wanted her to run. And, she's a Democrat who actually backs it up when it comes to helping support downticket races (whether they are fully invested in her top priority issues or not).

Bernie is important yes, but he is not indispensable. No one is going to kiss his arse and plead with him to do right.

Hillary has been extremely nice to him not going after him full throttle over his praise of communist dictatorships, his wife's period at Burlington college, his call to "rape fantasy" writings,, etc. The GOP won't be so nice (which is why they have been propping him up, practically praying the Dems nominate him).

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I agree with him, but just hoping that Warren endorses and campaigns for Hillary.

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Here's a post that I thought you might like to read. (Original Post) kstewart33 Apr 2016 OP
"Bernie has to show respect to get it." Yeah, about that... SunSeeker Apr 2016 #1
"Democrats nicely let him run under their banner" and then he bit them pandr32 Apr 2016 #2
I can't believe his supporters are still so besotted with him. It's not healthy! Walk away Apr 2016 #3
I still maintain that a large number of his supporters don't so much support him griffi94 Apr 2016 #4
Good post! Thanks! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #5

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
2. "Democrats nicely let him run under their banner" and then he bit them
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:18 PM
Apr 2016

...like a vicious dog. He attacks the Party, the front-runner, the super-delegates, progressive groups allied with the Democrats, allied unions, the process--everything. He is tearing up the yard that gave him a home.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
3. I can't believe his supporters are still so besotted with him. It's not healthy!
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:23 PM
Apr 2016
It can't be good for their heads!

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
4. I still maintain that a large number of his supporters don't so much support him
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016

as much as they irrationally hate Hillary.

The sourcing of RW media outlets is a big clue.
They weren't ever Bernies Indies. They're the leftover
Ron Paul Liberatarians and the conservatives who left the GOP
because it's a freak show.

Bernies campaign is an easy one for them to sink into because it has no details and it's not for anything.
It's against a lot of things and being anti is all those Liberatarians ever supported anyway.

The one who got duped was Bernie.
He thought there was a sudden popular surge in Democratic Socialism.
He may have let that power rush go to his head.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
5. Good post! Thanks!
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:55 PM
Apr 2016

As for your postscript. Elizabeth Warren WILL indeed endorse and campaign for Hillary. It's just a question of when.

IMO, the earliest it will happen is after this Tuesday, if Hillary does very well - as she is expected to. But Warren may hold off for awhile longer so as to help ease Bernie into the Dem fold in a way that saves him some face.

I like that the author of the piece you posted notes that Warren - unlike Bernie - has actually accomplished something wrt protecting consumers. Bernie may have voted to support the CFPB, but its creation was Elizabeth's "baby" so to speak - and she wasn't even in Congress at the time.

Warren is not simply a talker; she's a doer. Just like Hillary.

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