The worst thread I've ever seen on DU.

[Bleacher Creature]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280182729

I can't imagine anything worse. The Hillary hate is over the top. Then you add in the anecdotal garbage, and the actual admission that some are thinking about voting for Trump . . . Speechless!

I used to like Bernie, but there's no longer a question that he's appealing to the basest of instincts and anger. Anyone who tells you that the Sanders campaign isn't just the other side of the coin as the Trump campaign just needs to look at this thread.

[beachbumbob]

1. Sour grapes...tough for some to accept

But those who hate supporting the democratic nominee rather see a conservative is no friend of liberals, democrats or progressives...

[MANative]

2. I come to this conclusion...

There are either an awful lot of trolls hanging around DU to sow discord, or the population is far more stupid than I ever gave them credit for. I fear the latter is more true, and with that conclusion, I can only say, "FSM, help us all."

[OhZone]

5. Karl Rove's Or Bernie's paid trolls?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/22/1518673/-Bernie-Sanders-employs-online-trolls-via-Revolution-Messaging-They-are-still-hiring

[MANative]

36. I'm guessing both. n/t

[Stuckinthebush]

3. It is Depression time for them

Look, very few true liberals are that big of an idiot. That nephew and his "college buddies" may be the exception to the rule, but most people with liberal leanings are smarter than that.

They are lashing out like babies. Once Bernard concedes and lends his voice to the Clinton campaign them they will fall In with the logical masses.

I'm not worried but I am sick of their whining.

It'll be over soon

[OhZone]

4. Insane

So if you can't get a pretty good guy, who, you're gonna vote for today's Mussolini?

My brother says Bernie is an example of perfect being the enemy of the good.

I wouldn't say it like that, but he has a point.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

40. Some think you have to burn everything down to get the revolution started.

They're not much different than Pol Pot in that sense.

[OhZone]

41. Didn't work with Nader -

We got 911, illegal wars, a million dead or more, and a near great depression.

With Trump, you might get WW3 and the end of all life on Earth.

Geez.

[griffi94]

6. Take heart

They are loud and mean but they are a very small minority.

Bernies dudebros can scream and gnash their teeth.
They can be disgustingly rude online and point out how
big his rallies are, but the real measure is in votes.

Hillary leads Bernie by 3 million votes.

Their rage is nasty but impotent.

The primary will be over soon and Bernie will go back to Vermont
I have no Idea where his dudebros will go and care.

She's got this.

[Bad Dog]

7. It's not the Sanders campaign.

It's a single thread with a small group of people sounding off because they're pissed off.

[CanonRay]

16. Totally agree

there's just a lot of frustration out there right now, and a little understanding would go a long way.

[BlueCaliDem]

25. You get ZERO understanding from me when you promote Trump over Hillary Clinton. Seriously.

Sanders is giving these Republican trolls cover with his lashing out against Hillary Clinton on his way down.

I knew Republicans fear Hillary Clinton to the extreme, but I never thought I'd see a so-called liberal helping Republicans in attacking a true-blue Dem. NO Democrat in their right mind would rather have a Republican in the White House this election year, not with SCOTUS hanging in the balance and after knowing that Trump would sell the Executive branch, piece by piece, to the highest bidder as is his business m.o. (selling his name for big bucks).

I surely hope Hillary is as intelligent as I know her to be, and picks Julian Castro as her running mate. We'll lose the Anglo-American youth vote to Trump, but gain it twice over with the Hispanic-American vote - and might even win Texas this fall. With the African-American and Hispanic-American vote (and the oft overlooked Asian-American vote), we'll win this fall even if we lose a-political Millennials.

[CanonRay]

37. I believe they are just venting

and would never vote for Trump. Maybe I am wrong. Let's have some patience and keep the dialog open.

[Bad Dog]

47. Unfortunately there are those on both sides

who've lost sight of who the real enemy is.

[pandr32]

8. This "write-in Sanders" campaign

...is pointless, and just trashes a Democrat vote for POTUS. On one hand they profess to want "progress" and then advocate for scorched earth.

[Walk away]

9. The OP's signature line is "Bernie is bringing the world together"

Now that's irony!!!

I don't worry much about what is posted in the "Bernie Forum" They are always resorting to suspicious anecdotal evidence. It's how they started their campaign and it is how they are finishing it.

[shenmue]

10. Yeah

[Starry Messenger]

11. Wow!

A lot of assholes who get banned soon, I hope.

Anyone who wants to burn shit down to bring on radical social change are sitting on their plush asses in their cushy circumstances and don't give a fuck.

Spoiled brats, the lot of them.

[obamanut2012]

20. this

[still_one]

12. The link to that OP is pure flame bait, along with some of the replies suggesting "they can't blame

them"

If they want to vote for Trump over the Democratic nominee, then there is no point wasting time with that mindset.

Obviously, their maturity and critical think skills are questionable.

We will win quite well without them, and they will be left bragging how they voted for the sexist, racist republican candidate

[HillareeeHillaraah]

35. Agreed. I call (lower case) bs on this thread

No one who's paying attention to policies and politics swaps out voting for Bernie to voting for Trump.

Doesn't pass the smell test, IMO

[MADem]

13. Hey, consider the source.

Anyone who proudly announces that they've got stupid relations (using a Scooby Doo reference) who will vote for a racist pig has greater issues than we can ever realize, I suspect.

For many Sanders supportters, the alternative is Trump and always has been. That is where the whole white, male, "bro" appeal comes from. This is not a secret. Sanders said, from the get-go, that he wanted to triangulate (only a bad word when Bill uses it) the voter bloc of WHITE WORKING MALES. He thought if he could capture that demographic, that with a few scraps and bits and hangers-on, he could build a movement. This is not new, either--he's been humping that POV for years:

2014: http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2014/11/19/365024592/sen-bernie-sanders-on-how-democrats-lost-white-voters

2016: http://www.npr.org/2016/03/13/470278253/bernie-sanders-has-strength-among-white-men-pinched-by-the-economy

If employment were higher, his message might resonate. But the unemployment rate isn't that bad, and we know full well that this focus on the white guys doesn't address income inequality with black men and women. The idea that once all the white guys get work, that there will be jobs left over for the females and POC, that shit don't float. Who in their right mind--who isn't a white guy--would find that to be a respectable strategy?

[kjones]

14. Another sign that falling in with that camp would have been stupid.

I mean, assuming those aren't just trolls...but honestly, I've seen people in person
espouse the "blow it up to rebuild it" ideology. There's a lot of overlap in the
fringy libertarian/left fauxgressive (because really, Bernie's camp represents
as much regression as it does progression) and anarchists. I know a couple
here at my university, and it's not just the guys (because they always seem
to be male) who say it to sound edgy. These are real zealots for...fuck, I
don't even know what they represent honestly.

[apcalc]

32. Saw an article saying that ,

like parts of the Sanders movement, The Koch bros. like the idea of ' blowing it up' and rebuilding it.

You never know what you might get with 'blow up and rebuild', you could be very sorry.

[kjones]

43. Yeah, you might gamble it all and lose. nt

[liberal N proud]

15. What they are threatening make no logical sense

Hillary is not progressive enough so I will vote for the "guy" who is the polar opposite?

It is posturing.

[BlueCaliDem]

26. Well it proves one thing: they darn well know they're losing no matter what they say here.

And that's a GOOD thing for the country, for Democrats, for the undocumented, for gun safety laws, for the economy, for everything they say they hold dear. Hillary will deliver. Trump is a chump and will only sell us out.

[fleabiscuit]

17. You have been blocked from participating in the Bernie Sanders group by one of its Hosts. Opps LOL

[COLGATE4]

33. You too? I was feeling crushed. But now I feel better.

Almost.

[NastyRiffraff]

39. It's a badge of honor!

I'm very proud of my ban

[stopbush]

18. I'd bet a dollar that 90% of these Bernie or bust types

are going to be sadly disappointed when they go to cast their vote for Trump and are informed they never registered to vote.

[BlueCaliDem]

27. And to that I'll say and do:

[procon]

19. I suspect that most of those anecdotal stories are fan fiction.

They're just sad little props to shore up the disintegrating morale of that entire group.

[book_worm]

22. exactly

[book_worm]

21. Probably (if true--a lot of these types of posts I think are a bunch of malarky) Bernie Bros

so it would make sense for a bunch of Bernie Bros to vote for a misogynist like Trump. But don't worry most polls show that most Bernie supporters would vote for Hillary.

[okasha]

23. Ratfuckers are coming out of their holes,

not even trying to hide behind Sandets anymore.

[Beaverhausen]

24. 22 year old males have the least to lose if Trump wins

Who the fuck cares what they think?

[leftofcool]

28. Let me guess? White folks with nothing to lose right?

[Codeine]

29. Three or four stupid motherfuckers in that thread

admit they'll probably vote Trump.

The New Look DU sucks.

[Beaverhausen]

30. Hardly the worst thread. More like most stupid thread

Desperate, too.

[apcalc]

31. That's crazy

hard to understand that kind of thinking.
People do say foolish things in anger sometimes, so I'm going with that.
Maybe they will reconsider.

[hrmjustin]

34. Their negativity is only going to get worse.

I am going to take a step back from DU.

I am only posting a few times a day.

[Bluerome]

38. DU doesn't represent the real world

The number of people in the real world who won't vote Hillary are small. Most people aren't even following the election that closely. They don't give a shit about all this partisan stuff between Bernie and Hillary.

[revmclaren]

42. Now when the lights are turned on them

the trumphumpers don't even try to scurry away any more. Will be easy for Skinner when the time comes. That time is coming real soon.

[anotherproletariat]

44. The whole thing has brought to light how similar the far left and far right really are.

I wish someone would do a video bit where they interviewed various tea party members and Sanders supports, then you had to guess which was which. There is something about anger control issues and the fringes of the political spectrum that seem connected.

[Sparkly]

46. GMTA!!!

[Sparkly]

45. I've seen this before... In a way, it makes sense.

(I only read the OP in that thread, but I think I get the idea -- otherwise correct me.)

The frenzy over BS has a LOT to do with "bucking the establishment." It's kind of like adolescent rebellion. Or "we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore" lashing out at any handy "authority figure."

They want a HERO.

Unfortunately, their choice of hero is not related to the REALITY of politics, and thus not about the potential for change or effectiveness. It's about emotion.

It feels GREAT to rail against "The Establishment!" There's PRIDE in feeling persecuted for caring too much about others, and refusing to budge from righteous principles!! Identifying and demonizing an OPPOSITE side that's not pure (= is in the real world) makes for a good/bad binary separation, and creates a scapegoat for releasing all kinds of indignant anger. It may be genuine, but it is misdirected.

In the rightwing, it's much the same. That is how the so-called "leftists" (who really aren't, but like thinking of themselves as such) go around the bend far enough and meet up with the rightwing, especially "libertarians." It's just general adolescent defiance.

So Trump voters could vote for Bernie, and Bernie fans could go for Trump. It's is not surprising to me because -- as my thread yesterday in GDP proved -- it has NOTHING to do with issues. NOTHING to do with facts. NOTHING to do with progress.

Off my soapbox for now!