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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:01 PM Sep 2013

Don't be mislead by misrepresentations about Pres Obama's pick of Chen

Bipartisan boards have existed since the Civil War and they are basically advisory boards that allow each side to give input to Congress by nominating their experts who will have access to the sitting committees responsible for it.

The President put for the name of the Republican for the Republican slot on the Social Security Board and it was posted to make it appear that the President intended to stack the board with Republican picks.

Here are the facts by the WP



It seemed like a timely stroke of bipartisanship: the White House announced Monday, on the eve of a government shutdown, that President Obama would nominate a top adviser to Republican Mitt Romney's campaign to an administration position.

Obama intends to nominate Lanhee J. Chen -- the policy director on Romney's 2012 presidential campaign who, yes, repeatedly attacked Obama's Social Security plans -- to the Social Security Advisory Board, which advises the president as well as the Congress on Social Security policy.

But that's not quite the full story. The board is independent and its membership is bipartisan. Although the president nominates members, the nominees alternate between the political parties. This vacancy was for a Republican member, a White House aide explained, and Chen was actually the pick of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).



This supports the law:



http://www.ssab.gov/AbouttheBoard/AuthorizingStatute.aspx

(c)(1) The Board shall be composed of 7 members who shall be appointed as follows:
(A) 3 members shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. Not more than 2 of such members shall be from the same political party.
(B) 2 members (each member from a different political party) shall be appointed by the President pro tempore of the Senate with the advice of the Chairman and the Ranking Minority Member of the Senate Committee on Finance.
(C) 2 members (each member from a different political party) shall be appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, with the advice of the Chairman and the Ranking Minority Member of the House Committee on Ways and Means.
(2) The members shall be chosen on the basis of their integrity, impartiality, and good judgment, and shall be individuals who are, by reason of their education, experience, and attainments, exceptionally qualified to perform the duties of members of the Board.



When Boehner appoints the Democratic nominee he will get the name from our side.

This is the way it has worked for decades. We don't want them to name our folks and we don't get to pick their guys.

Now despite these facts having been laid out (and it really took less than 5 seconds for Google to find them there are folks who persist in trying to paint this into some ominous development. Even after having the facts they try and misrepresent the facts to make it appear that the President was filling the third position with a Republican.

Even after the facts were clearly stated they continue to post lies that misrepresent the action of the President.

Don't be led by their misrepresentations.

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Don't be mislead by misrepresentations about Pres Obama's pick of Chen (Original Post) grantcart Sep 2013 OP
Thanks for writing this, grant, to explain to those who find Cha Sep 2013 #1
hope it helps Peacetrain Sep 2013 #2
I know what you mean Peacetrain.. Cha Sep 2013 #3
Hey Cha! Peacetrain Sep 2013 #5
Hey Peacetrain! Cha Sep 2013 #6
Thanks, not sure why anyone didn't know that. We live to serve... uh, educate. freshwest Sep 2013 #4
Thank you for the facts, grant. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #7
Help me understand. Wilms Sep 2013 #8
He had to choose whom to recommend for the nomination. Sanddog42 Sep 2013 #9
Read the second section from the actual law grantcart Sep 2013 #11
OK. Thanks. n/t Wilms Sep 2013 #13
K&R&Bookmarking. Control-Z Sep 2013 #10
Thanks for the clarification. n/t UtahLib Sep 2013 #12
Bravo! IrishAyes Sep 2013 #14
Obama Robbins Sep 2013 #15
Some people need to freak out and use Cha Oct 2013 #16
Once again average ordinary things that happen treestar Oct 2013 #17

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
2. hope it helps
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:17 PM
Sep 2013

thanks for the explanations..sad to see people get themselves so twisted up that they can't back down..

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
8. Help me understand.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:12 PM
Sep 2013

The excerpt you provide says:

But that's not quite the full story. The board is independent and its membership is bipartisan. Although the president nominates members, the nominees alternate between the political parties. This vacancy was for a Republican member, a White House aide explained, and Chen was actually the pick of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

If the "president nominates the members" how does McConnell figure in this? I could see him recommending. But picking?



grantcart

(53,061 posts)
11. Read the second section from the actual law
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:27 PM
Sep 2013


(c)(1) The Board shall be composed of 7 members who shall be appointed as follows:
(A) 3 members shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. Not more than 2 of such members shall be from the same political party.
(B) 2 members (each member from a different political party) shall be appointed by the President pro tempore of the Senate with the advice of the Chairman and the Ranking Minority Member of the Senate Committee on Finance.
(C) 2 members (each member from a different political party) shall be appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, with the advice of the Chairman and the Ranking Minority Member of the House Committee on Ways and Means.
(2) The members shall be chosen on the basis of their integrity, impartiality, and good judgment, and shall be individuals who are, by reason of their education, experience, and attainments, exceptionally qualified to perform the duties of members of the Board.



The President names three one of which comes from the Republican side. Boehner and Reid each pick one and gets it with "the advice" of a ranking member of the other party.

The President gets his Republican name from the ranking Republican, in this case McConnell.

We nominate our guys and they nominate theirs.

When Bush was President we still got to "pick" our representative. Do you really want the Republicans picking our guy? Well they don't want us picking theirs either. This system has been going on for decades and works just fine.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
14. Bravo!
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:01 PM
Sep 2013

Well timed critical information. We're deeply indebted. I've learned to trust President Obama even when I don't always understand exactly what he's doing, and certain good folks like grantcart make it clear as glass, even to me. That's one reason I tend to suspect willful ignorance (and/or lying) from diehard holdouts; if I can understand something, then they should be able to also. I'm not really setting the bar too high.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
15. Obama
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:09 PM
Sep 2013

If he was going to enact the romney economic plan he would have caved to republicans on funding/dedt ceiling.

Haven't we learned with Syria not to freak out bu these things.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. Once again average ordinary things that happen
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:13 AM
Oct 2013

Are said to be new things of incredible outrage under Obama!

Yeah anyone who worked for Rmoney could well be a jerk, but we have to live with them, until we can convince them to do better.

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