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Related: About this forumTrident row: Cameron defends Fallon's attach on Miliband
David Cameron has been forced to defend Michael Fallon after the defence secretary claimed Ed Miliband would stab Britains national interest in the back in the same way he did his brother to gain the Labour leadership.
The prime minister said there were serious issues at stake in the election campaign and Fallon was right to question Labours approach to the renewal of the Trident nuclear programme in a pretty frank way.
Fallon had claimed Milibands treatment of his brother, David, showed he was so ambitious that he would compromise national security and negotiate away Trident if it meant securing power for Labour. He claimed the party would have to abandon any plans to renew the fleet in order to secure the support of the Scottish National party in a hung parliament because the SNP has pledged to scrap nuclear weapons.
Miliband said Fallon was a decent person but he had demeaned himself and demeaned his office. Milibands campaign manager, Douglas Alexander, said the Tories were in the political gutter.
(More at link):
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/09/trident-row-cameron-defends-fallons-attack-on-miliband
That's some pretty vile stuff. Sounds like what you'd get from the gutter press.
Perhaps it's a good thing that the voters did get to hear just what their Tory leaders are like!
P.S. Trident is a huge white elephant, and it would be a good thing if it did get scrapped!
Ironing Man
(164 posts)''That's some pretty vile stuff. Sounds like what you'd get from the gutter press.
Perhaps it's a good thing that the voters did get to hear just what their Tory leaders are like!''
Labour aren't exactly clean when it comes from personal abuse - how many years have they been making sarky comments about 'posh boys'?
its not the kind of stuff that turns me on, and i don't think its politically effective - but i think its richly deserved. Labour MP's have been slating the charactor and background of both Tories and LD's for years, usually while giving it 'prolier than thou'. Cameron et al did not get to choose their parents or schools, but that doesn't stop Labour smearing them over it.
of course, anyone who was involved in the Balls-McBride school of vileness could think they have a leg to stand on when it comes to decency probably has problems with delusions as well as a challenged moral compass.
LeftishBrit
(41,212 posts)Sorry, but I don't think calling someone a posh boy (or a pleb for that matter) is on the same level as saying that they are prepared to stab their family members and country in the back.
Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)the "attack" against Miliband would be valid. But talking about a system that scares no one--not even Putin who can get away with his conquests--is plain idiotic.
Not one adversary--from Argentina to the Daesh/ISIL is scared of Trident.
Ironing Man
(164 posts)anyone who is not scared of a virtually uninterceptable system capable of dlivering a minimum of 40, and usually 80, warheads with yeilds between 5 and 100+kilotons - all with the range and accuracy to land within 5 metres of any spot in the northern hemisphere - is either on crack or educationally sub-normal.
the only unknown, and unknowable, is whether it would used. of course, anyone who would bet their military infrastructure and 20 or so of their largest cities on being absolutely, positively sure of the mind of a politician they've either never met, or met a handful of times also meets the above criteria...