We have fallen down the rabbit hole.

[Soph0571]

In June 2016 we stayed up and watched 52% of our country follow a bunch of right wing elitist xenophobic privileged middle aged white men to the edge of a cliff like a bunch of lemmings. Falling for a hate filled campaign that was based on fear of other and a slogan of ‘Take Back Control’ they fell for the notion that the UK would somehow be a better nation outside of the EU. What they actually meant was they wanted immigration to do down (it won’t) and wages it go up (the won’t)

They do not know what they have done. When the far-right wankers now calling for a no deal Brexit, talk about taking control, talk about wanting our country back, they were not talking about the country of working class voters who voted for Brexit. They are talking about taking control to roll back decades of reform on workers’ rights, the welfare state, tax and spend, financial regulation, environment protections. You name it they want rid. Free market and power is the name of the game, that is their only game. They do not give a shit about the poor dupes who were suckered into voting for them in 2016 and who they are lying to again to wrestle control in the EU elections.

The coup is complete and whoever is Prime Minister next does not have the will to deliver a deal. The only bright side to the horror we are living through is that all the bullshit and lies they continue to tell to get the working class to believe they cared for them will come back and haunt them in the end. Immigration is not going to stop. They are not going to put even one penny more into the NHS for all the lies they told. They hate the NHS, they cannot stand giving poor people anything in reality. They are not going to govern over a rise in living standards. You cannot have a rise in living standards when your country has no bloody trade deals anywhere and you have exited your biggest market by a mile. They keep threatening that people will go to war if the hardest of Brexit is not delivered. I don’t think this so. In fact, I predict civil unrest when those who would not normally take part in the democratic process realise how their votes have been stolen by lies.

We have fallen down the rabbit hole and I cannot see a way out.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Welcome to the rabbit hole.

It could be worse; at least your corner of the rabbit hole doesn't have Trump in it. But yes, it's all stupid and destructive and I don't know how it will come out.

[bloom]

2. Canada is looking better all the time.

At least they have been better toward immigrants.

[Chin music]

5. Got news for the world. Canada doesn't want us.

Their jobs are drying up under trump too.

[mn9driver]

3. I believe the Brexit crowd bears a close resemblance to the Trump crowd.

I’m American and haven’t been exposed to the Brexit campaign directly, but I have some family and friends scattered around England. Most see it for what it is, but some are in the tank for it.

All I can think is there is a certain kind of brain that is horribly susceptible to nationalist fear agitprop. It doesn’t correlate to IQ since one of the smartest people I know, a retired classics professor in Exeter, is insanely pro Brexit. This also holds true for some of the Trump nuts I know. Smart people completely consumed by blatant propaganda. Weird.

[T_i_B]

12. It's very similar

Elderly and very spiteful towards everyone else in society.

[Evolve Dammit]

4. I see it as connected by global hucksters like Bannon, Nigel Farage, LePen, Mercers, Kochs et al

They want the lower classes destroyed, so they can rule. I am sorry to see it unfold around the globe. I do think it is planned and orchestrated. Indictments and first witness please... Stay strong.

[Chin music]

6. Looks to me like, Britain and America better start channeling their INNER FRENCHMAN,

before it's too late.
Want to see what young America can do? Hack "fortnite" and shut it down. Blame it on trump, then, when their ox is gored....watch out. Meanwhile, no worries as long as the internet bill is paid, and there's working hand controllers.

[CDerekGo]

7. and I have a UK friend here in California

That HATES everything in UK. Truly believes that Brexit is best thing to happen. Of course, he's been in States for almost 10 years. And has a gf who's gladly paying for a roof over his head while he waits for Disability to kick in (long story). Why is it that those who believe no one else deserves any Government Assistance, is first in line for exactly that?

I'm so sick of it all! And especially tired of subsidizing the 1%!

[sharedvalues]

8. The only way out: stop Murdoch

Murdoch and all rightwing media. From the Telegraph to the Sun to Sky and to all the FB BS from Farage and his donors.

[ancianita]

9. Murdoch represents Austrian economics, and the West has suffered their propaganda enough. You are so

RIGHT.

Murdoch is who the UK and US have in common. His politics care nothing for national land base politics or identity. But those exist.

The more people understand humanity through geography, the more we will unite to help each other control the magnificent wealth of our land base resources.

These globalists are landless parasites.

[mwooldri]

11. Comcast owns Sky now.

Sadly Murdoch still owns the Sun and the Times.

[EveHammond13]

10. I can't rec this because we must find a way out