Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 10:44 AM Mar 2012

Death Penalty drumbeat continues...

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/03/15/tasha-kheiriddin-stafford-case-shows-why-canada-needs-the-death-penalty/

Tasha Kheiriddin: Tori Stafford case shows why Canada needs the death penalty

...the death penalty has been vigorously debated and is often considered to be “settled” law, at least by those who support the status quo. Opponents cite its lack of deterrence, its cost to the legal system and the fact that invariably, innocent people would be put to death. The state’s use of the death penalty makes of society the very thing it deplores: a murderer, a killer in revenge.

These points are all valid. And yet, upon reading McClintic’s testimony, a common gut reaction is that if what she says is true, she and Rafferty simply don’t deserve to live. It is simple, it is basic, it is human; it survives statistics, defences based on horrible childhoods and theories prizing rehabilitation over punishment.


This all has me worried. I know it's Kheiriddin, not an MP or anything, but this attempt at marshalling public opinion is worrisome, especially after the front page of the Ottawa Sun featured a full-page photo of a death chamber (as a good thing!) earlier this week.

And of course I'm not an apologist for the assholes who killed Tori Stafford. They are clearly horrible people.

Kheiriddin's assertion that feelings of vengefulness are "basic" is interesting - laws are in place because of "basic" (base?) feelings like that. It might be "human" to want things someone else has, but it's illegal to steal those things.

How long before we can vote the Cons out, again?

I wonder if any western countries have ever gone back to capital punishment after having abolished it?
4 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Death Penalty drumbeat continues... (Original Post) Lucy Goosey Mar 2012 OP
Playing God? Smilo Mar 2012 #1
death is easy. pansypoo53219 Mar 2012 #2
I agree with pansypoo on this one. shockedcanadian Mar 2012 #3
They are rumbling about things like abortion again too arikara Mar 2012 #4

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
1. Playing God?
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 12:22 PM
Mar 2012

Eye for an eye, etc.?

The death penalty - while making the living feel a smidgeon better - doesn't work, it is not a deterrent and it is a very backwards way of thinking. It is also a very expensive way of killing - and don't they say that killing is wrong.

I don't say I have the answer - but killing because someone killed does not seem right to me.



 

shockedcanadian

(751 posts)
3. I agree with pansypoo on this one.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 02:20 PM
Mar 2012

Life in prison is punishment enough, even a month in the pen breaks most people.

Furthermore, if a mistake was made int he conviction, and we know it is becoming more commonplace, prison can be undone, death cannot.

I used to be supportive of the DP, but I have since changed my attitude drastically after great arguments have been made which swayed my opinion.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
4. They are rumbling about things like abortion again too
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 02:02 PM
Mar 2012

Harper's extremist Northern Foundation roots are becoming more evident all the time. Creepy sneaky low life bastard.

Latest Discussions»Region Forums»Canada»Death Penalty drumbeat co...