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hue

(4,949 posts)
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 07:34 AM Feb 2013

Walker to public pension fund manager: Can you spare $200 million?

http://watchdog.org/68041/walker-to-public-pension-fund-manager-can-you-spare-200-million/

MADISON – Nearly two years after demanding public-sector unions pick up their share of taxpayer-funded pensions, Gov. Scott Walker is asking government workers to bet part of their retirements on a plan to subsidize new businesses in Wisconsin.

The venture capital plan calls for moving hundreds of millions of dollars into an embattled quasi-public economic development agency that lost track of a $56 million loan portfolio, among other mismanagement problems.

Documents obtained by Wisconsin Reporter show that Reed Hall, CEO of Walker’s Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation, recommended that the State of Wisconsin Investment Board loan $200 million to WEDC.

Walker serves as chairman of the WEDC board of directors.

Hall said WEDC would use SWIB’s cash to promote business growth through taxpayer-subsidized government investments in Wisconsin companies.
In a letter to SWIB, Hall explained that he was turning to the pension fund because his start-up program would likely find it harder to tap private investors “due to a lack of demonstrable track records.”

“Given that some of these funds may be managed by first-time fund managers, the issue arises of where to turn for the outside investment,” Hall wrote. “We recommend that SWIB consider an allocation … of $200M.”
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Walker to public pension fund manager: Can you spare $200 million? (Original Post) hue Feb 2013 OP
Ask WMC instead reteachinwi Feb 2013 #1
looks like walker wants to follow the illinois plan madrchsod Feb 2013 #2
NO! NO FUCKING WAY ... Scuba Feb 2013 #3
CAN HE EVEN DO THIS??? a kennedy Feb 2013 #4
$200M from the State Pension fund?!!?!?!?!?!?! ewagner Feb 2013 #5
They'll use that $200 million to create the 250,000 jobs dragonlady Feb 2013 #6
You're right Dragonlady... ewagner Feb 2013 #7
Translation: Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #8
No, no, no, no,.........a thousand times a thousand no. yourout Feb 2013 #9
Frightening but not unexpected Sabriel Feb 2013 #10
They will do whatever they want for the next two years lutefisk Feb 2013 #11
Wrong. There's the courts, and a State Supreme Court Justice race going on now .... Scuba Feb 2013 #12
Yes, the Supreme Court election is important lutefisk Feb 2013 #13
Out? Never! I've scoured states as far as ... Scuba Feb 2013 #14
What is lefse? Thanks. midnight Feb 2013 #15
A very thin potato flatbread, usually eaten with butter, sometimes salt and pepper. Scuba Feb 2013 #16
Too funny... I thought it was a political reference.. thanks for clarifying... midnight Feb 2013 #20
Just say "no" snacker Feb 2013 #17
Received this information with my quarterly newsletter from SWIB a kennedy Feb 2013 #18
Request denied snacker Feb 2013 #19
Thanks for following up!! hue Feb 2013 #21
Government workers need to stand up to this. Take it to court. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #22

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
2. looks like walker wants to follow the illinois plan
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 09:06 AM
Feb 2013

appropriate money for the pension fund then use it for other purposes. he must have finally realized what a great job the democrats and republicans have done here in illinois all these years.
the difference between quin , madigan, and the chicago machine is walker is up front about what he does.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
3. NO! NO FUCKING WAY ...
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 09:39 AM
Feb 2013

Trusting Squat Wanker and his criminal gang with the State Pension Fund?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
5. $200M from the State Pension fund?!!?!?!?!?!?!
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 12:42 PM
Feb 2013

Giving it (or loaning it) to WEDC is high risk...only 20% or so of all venture capital funded new businesses survive...Reed Hall should know this....

they'd have better luck at the Ho Chunk Casino in Nekoosa, WI.

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
6. They'll use that $200 million to create the 250,000 jobs
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 12:57 PM
Feb 2013

and then pay the pension fund back, with interest, from the increased income tax collections. That's a brilliant idea. What could possibly go wrong?

(Do I really have to add ?)

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
7. You're right Dragonlady...
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:39 PM
Feb 2013

...with Scott Walker in charge we JUST KNOW everything he touches works out PERFECTLY for the people of Wisconsin!


(just in case)

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. Translation:
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:19 PM
Feb 2013

Holy cow, there's this whole big pot of money that theoretically belongs to the undeserving retired State parasites who wasted their entire lives sucking on the state government tit, and my business friends really need it, and by damn I'm gonna make sure they get it.

yourout

(7,531 posts)
9. No, no, no, no,.........a thousand times a thousand no.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:57 PM
Feb 2013

NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..NO..

Sabriel

(5,035 posts)
10. Frightening but not unexpected
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 09:14 PM
Feb 2013

Everyone assumed it was only a matter of time.

Let the great retirement exodus commence! I know several folks who are keeping an eye in this very issue and will go immediately if there's a hint of tampering.

lutefisk

(3,974 posts)
11. They will do whatever they want for the next two years
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 09:27 PM
Feb 2013

I don't think there is anything that can stop these fuckers, and they know it.

What will this state look like in two years? I can't even imagine.

(Waving goodbye to Wisconsin)

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
12. Wrong. There's the courts, and a State Supreme Court Justice race going on now ....
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 02:15 PM
Feb 2013

We have a chance to tip the makeup of the State Supreme Court and we need to do that. That will give us legal recourse to stop/slow Walker/Koch/Fitzasshole Brothers and their criminal plans.

Wisconsin: Russ Feingold endorses Ed Fallone for State Supreme Court Justice

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10846434

lutefisk

(3,974 posts)
13. Yes, the Supreme Court election is important
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:00 PM
Feb 2013

But even if we can loosen the Republicans' hold on the Supreme Court, there is a limit to what any of the courts can address. The courts move slowly and are guided by law. Walker and the Wisconsin Republicans move fast and are lawless.

Excuse my pessimism, but we're fucked.

Keep fighting Scuba... I'm pretty close to getting the hell out of here.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
14. Out? Never! I've scoured states as far as ...
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:16 PM
Feb 2013

... Colorado and Washington and couldn't even find lefse!

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
16. A very thin potato flatbread, usually eaten with butter, sometimes salt and pepper.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:44 PM
Feb 2013

Lutefisk, on the other hand, is fish that's been loaked in lye until it is a sickening gelatin. Lips that touch lutefisk will never touch mine.

snacker

(3,619 posts)
17. Just say "no"
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:29 PM
Feb 2013

and, thankfully, they did:

http://lacrossetribune.com/news/state-and-regional/wi/wedc-head-asks-for-million-in-pension-funds/article_f41ef40a-47df-50f1-ba8f-89882f05757a.html?comment_form=true

"The board that oversees Wisconsin's pension program for public employees has rejected a request by the head of Gov. Scott Walker's semi-private economic development agency to tap $200 million from the fund to invest in risky startup businesses."

a kennedy

(29,675 posts)
18. Received this information with my quarterly newsletter from SWIB
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:53 AM
Feb 2013

The Wisconsin Private Debt Program has been part of SWIB's investment strategy since the 1960s. Often times, smaller companies that can not get the attention of very large investors may find sources of senior and subordinated debt financing through SWIB’s Private Debt portfolio.

SWIB can also be a good partner with the company’s banks, providing the long-term loan that complements the bank’s short-term financing, but does not compete with the bank to provide other financial services.

The portfolio provides long-term, senior fixed-rate loans and subordinated loans to operating businesses that can demonstrate the ability to repay their debt. Wisconsin companies must pass the same credit tests that are used to evaluate companies outside the state. Wisconsin companies can qualify for senior loans as small as $5 million and subordinated loans as small as $3 million. Financing is primarily provided to businesses:

Headquartered in Wisconsin
Operating in Wisconsin
Intending to invest proceeds in Wisconsin
SWIB will consider some regional transactions as investments for its private debt portfolio.

http://www.swib.state.wi.us/privatedebt.aspx

snacker

(3,619 posts)
19. Request denied
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:45 PM
Feb 2013
http://lacrossetribune.com/news/state-and-regional/wi/wedc-head-asks-for-million-in-pension-funds/article_f41ef40a-47df-50f1-ba8f-89882f05757a.html?comment_form=true

"The board that oversees Wisconsin's pension program for public employees has rejected a request by the head of Gov. Scott Walker's semi-private economic development agency to tap $200 million from the fund to invest in risky startup businesses."

I posted this earlier, but should have changed my "title"...

LiberalFighter

(50,953 posts)
22. Government workers need to stand up to this. Take it to court.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:43 PM
Feb 2013

Remove the board members that vote to approve it.

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