Wisconsin: We're going to verify the Recall Walker vote!!!! You can help!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scuba]

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Coverage from Uppity Wisconsin here.


VOTING MACHINE DOUBTS: Now begins a major effort to verify the Wisconsin vote

Coincident to this week's revelation that Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus by herself changed voting machine software just before the April statewide election -- creating, at minimum, mass confusion and delaying vote tallies -- comes some good news for people concerned about "black box" electronic voting machines of questionable reliability.

Wisconsin Wave has formed an umbrella effort to verify the accuracy and integrity of June's recall election, based on troubling data concerning exit polling. We've passed on reports of these concerns here before. Now there will be a concerted, statewide effort to see if there's fire behind the smoke.

Most important, the effort will depend on volunteers in voting districts across the state. You can sign up here: http://wisconsinwave.org/handcount/volunteer

The news release from Wisconsin Wave here.

How did Wisconsin REALLY vote on June 5th?

Exit polls reported by major news outlets at 8pm put the race at a 50-50 dead heat. However less than an hour later, with only 25% of precincts reporting, those same outlets called the race for Walker. This early prediction was later matched by the official count which settled at 53% for Walker and 46% for Barrett.

But was that how Wisconsinites really voted? As recent history such as Ohio in 2004 shows, huge disparities between exit polls and official totals can point to systemic fraud in the tamper-prone machines that count our ballots.

These concerns were amplified when citizen-observers monitoring the Racine Senate recount decided to also double check the gubernatorial race. The results were extremely disturbing- in the Racine precincts where observers were stationed, statistically significant differences were found between the recounted totals and the official election night totals. Even more troubling, in EVERY case these disparities benefited Walker over Barrett, drastically decreasing the likelihood they could've be caused by random error.


The ONLY way to know if the Recall was free of systematic fraud and abuse is to hand count the ballots!

A grassroots coalition, which includes the Wisconsin Wave, has formed to verify the accuracy and integrity of the election results. Called “Hand Count Votes Now!,’’ we’ve gotten the ball rolling by filing open records requests to access the ballots in all 72 Wisconsin counties, and teams have already been sent out to perform hand counts.

This is very good news. Thanks in advance to all who are able to assist.

[riverwalker]

1. link to give financial support

for those who can't volunteer.
http://wisconsinwave.org/handcount/support

[freshwest]

3. Thanks.

[Scuba]

4. Thanks for adding!!!

[ellenfl]

17. kick for later. eom

[Plucketeer]

22. Thanks for the link

I'm sending them some bucks.

[sabrina 1]

29. Thanks for that link.

[freshwest]

2. Wisconsin, once again leading the nation to oppose GOP tyranny. Thanks.

[Blue Owl]

5. Fan-Fucking-Tastic!!!

Call out the liars, cheaters, and thieves of the GOP for the criminals they are.

Walker, Prosser, and Nickolaus can all go to hell, the rotten scoundrels...

[Madmiddle]

6. I live way up here in Vermont

and I could see this cheating the republicans do from here. Why is this still going on. We all know that with Carl Rove involved with this whole fiasco that there was voting machines being manipulated. McCain wouldn't allow this during his run against Obama, but with Rove in the mix, this next election is goin to be a very sordid bunch of bullshit.

[madashelltoo]

7. God, I wish I were near.

I would gear up for the count right along with you. I knew it had to be the machines. I knew it. Count on, Wisconsin!

[Lifelong Protester]

8. I signed up!

Hope I get a call, I will help!!!

[ejbr]

9. When the fuck

are we going to do something about these machines?!

[Blue Owl]

11. A sledgehammer and a little gumption could go a long way to restore democracy!

n/t

[part man all 86]

20. you got that right!

[Brewinblue]

10. Signed up

If fraud is proven, this could be the end of the current GOP.

[itsrigged]

47. Not if, when... as in when people see what's really going on, there is no way we will allow it to…

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continue...

The above audio was not recorded very loud... even with my computer amplified speakers, I have to turn the volume way up to hear it... so if you can not hear it, turn up your volume...

don't believe everything you think... thoughts are words, without them we cannot think nor read... so, don't believe everything you read either, someone eles may of thought it up.

[itsrigged]

49. What do you think they are trying to do to the unions and the poor and middle class

Right now they are giving us the finger and want to prevent us from obtaining affordable health care while they have the best health care being paid 100% by the tax payers... but they don't want us to have that now do they?

[robinlynne]

12. Thank-you to all who volunteer! If I could afford to not work, I would be there in a nano-second.

[Lifelong Protester]

36. It's a good way for those of us

who have a lighter schedule in the summer to work on this. I'm stoked!!

Thanks for your support, though!

[bobthedrummer]

13. BADGERS NGU! n/t

[robinlynne]

14. Scuba, this is the most exciting news I have seen in a year!!!!!!!

[zeemike]

15. Wonderful...and thanks to whoever started this.

If you don't look you cannot find the truth.

[itsrigged]

50. seek and ye shall find...

And, if one does not listen, it will go in one ear and out the other and he will never hear it.

[Coyotl]

16. WHOIS

Domain Name:WISCONSINWAVE.ORG
Created On:01-Dec-2010
Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc.
Registrant ID:tuZkFgpu0b83gmfK
Customer 0125533805
96 Mowat Ave
Toronto, ON

Liberty Tree Foundation
1202 Williamson Street, Madison, WI
[phone] ? · libertytreefdr.org

John Nichols, Director and President

[Scuba]

19. Very interesting!!!

I was already a big fan of John.

[chknltl]

18. This is even more important than baingate!

Thom Hartman did a lengthy piece on this yesterday, I hope he posts transcript here today. Brad from Bradblog needs to post his take on this here too.

Why is this more important than Baingate?
The electorate that supports romney won't be affected by either baingate or the election fraud investigation going on in Wisconsin. Those in the middle, those who are undecided, those who don't pay attention, will mildly be affected by baingate but Wisconsin......

This is WE THE PEOPLES sole imput into our democracy, most of the electorate knows that. Most realize that their one little vote matters little in the bigger scheme of things but vote theft the likes of which quite likely went on in Wisconsin is going to make the entire electorate take notice.....and they will scream bloody murder if they start seeing what is going on across our nation with the election fraud the gop is perpetrating.

This story is leaking out slowly right now but once out of the bag our mainstream media will not be able to get out of the way of this. Full on government investigations could be called for....the very investigations we here in the DU have sooooo dearly longed for our Democratic leadership to do.

Fellow DUers, we must push this out into the open, WISCONSIN WAVE needs YOUR help! If what I heard on Hartman yesterday is true, the repugs are threatening to burn those paper ballots soon thereby covering up their crime..... but there is still a small window for WISCONSIN WAVE to work with. If we play this right, this story will be Monday's headline in a few newspapers but by weeks end it will be THE STORY!

[robinlynne]

37. right on.

[drm604]

21. K&R

This is important!

[Omaha Steve]

23. I'm kicking into the $ recount fund!

K&R!

=> To contribute directly to a special fund that will be used to cover the burdensome costs being imposed by some counties click here

Be sure to share this page with as many friends, family members, and political contacts as you can!

http://wisconsinwave.org/handcount/support

OS

[47of74]

24. In addition to an anti-Citizens United amendment

We need an amendment that makes voter suppression and electoral fraud punishable by life imprisonment with no possibility of reprieve or parole. Or even capital punishment if a court decides that's appropriate. And make it one crime where neither the President or state Governors do not have power to commute sentences or pardon. Those two crimes are worse than murder, rape, kidnapping, etc because they strike at the very heart of our democracy and could have serious consequences for not just the US but the entire planet as well.

[Bjorn Against]

25. I live just across the border in Minnesota

I would be more than willing to help out with operations preferably in the area around Hudson and River Falls.

[mojowork_n]

26. Thx, chx in mail. K & R n/t

[xmas74]

27. Passed it on to someone who might be interested

in Racine.

[hue]

28. Great news!!!! :-)

[Scuba]

30. Thought you might say that!

[hue]

32. Home from work & found this!! Thanks Scuba!! Oh Happy Day!!!

[sabrina 1]

31. This is so true:

Exit polls reported by major news outlets at 8pm put the race at a 50-50 dead heat. However less than an hour later, with only 25% of precincts reporting, those same outlets called the race for Walker. This early prediction was later matched by the official count which settled at 53% for Walker and 46% for Barrett.

I watched those numbers change on CNN after Wolf Blitzer had stated it was too early to call the election for either one as the numbers were so close. The crawl at the bottom of the screen at that point, with only 23% of the votes counted, claimed it was 50-50. Very shortly after, and I don't remember the exact time frame, but it wasn't longer than about 20 minutes, when I checked the crawl again, it was at 53 - 46. I was stunned, and did wonder how that happened so fast as the votes recorded were still very low, approx 26%.

We talked about that here a few weeks ago. I wish we could get that footage from that show.

[hue]

33. Indeed I remember Your postings of disbelief!! It was unreal for sure!!

Thanks for Your empathy!! I hope we can share feelings of joy, relief and victory some day!!

[sabrina 1]

35. I can't think of anything I would welcome more than to see them caught in the act.

The way they tried to brush off people's concerns, was to resort to the false claim that the people 'didn't like recalls'. That talking point began almost immediately and even made it to DU. So I tracked it down to try to find out where it was coming from, and found an article revealing the fact that it came from a Business group in Wisc who had a vested interest in Walker remaining in office. I meant to post that and will have to look for it again.

[midnight]

34. Scuba I think I'm going to cry or fall over in my chair.... OMG...

[lamp_shade]

38. Pleeeeze keep us posted.

[OverseaVisitor]

39. Handcount them

Get the machine out before the Presidential election.

[Coyotl]

40. Recounts do not work if the ballot boxes were stuffed, you just recount stuffed ballots

This happened in Ohio in 2004, with a recount that did nothing except suck money out of liberal pockets and provide a useful cover-up of how the real vote rigging happened.

While I wish them all the luck in the world, there seems to be a disconnect here between understanding how to fix an election and understanding how to prevent it. Maybe that is because those who fix the elections also know they need to control and spin what people think in conjunction with putting in the fix. It was all the disinformation after Ohio 2004 that was most suspicious, an obvious obfuscation campaign that played out on DU even. They were so effective at controlling the dialogue that John Conyers hired the leader of the cover-up and the real fraud went undetected.

[Scuba]

42. There's no question about how many votes were cast...

... only if they were properly tallied.

[Coyotl]

43. Is there also no question about chain of custody?

Were all ballots counted without any possible stuffing? If so, then the recount will verify the machine count.

[Scuba]

44. The number of ballots should equal the number of voter signatures...

Yes, there are chain-of-custody issues, but I wouldn't categorized resulting problems as "stuffing".

[dragonlady]

45. The number of votes must be reconciled at the end of election night

The votes recorded on the machine must match the number of voters. (Each voter is given a numbered slip of paper torn off a specially printed pad and then turns it in after voting, or in the alternative the workers keep track on tally sheets by writing the next number in sequence when a ballot is given out.) Workers usually check often during the day to see whether the last number matches the number on the machine. The machine must also match the number of voters checked off in the poll books, and the two poll books must match in that regard. The workers have to stay until they can figure out the reason for any discrepancies. After observing at numerous elections, I can say that strange things and clerical errors sometimes happen, but the workers do their best because they don't look forward to staying longer than necessary at the end of a long and stressful day.

Could this system be undermined to add more ballots to the machine? Theoretically that could happen, but every poll worker in the ward would need to cooperate, no voters or observers could see their changes, and all the numbers would still have to match. The number of extra ballots could not be so great as to cause suspicion. Any one polling place would not be likely to change the result of a large election.

[yourout]

46. Interesting....from what you are saying there is only two scenarios I can see....

and a mandatory hand audit would show one but not the other.

#1. In an election without audits it would be possible for the machine counts(vote flipping) to be manipulated and would only be discovered via actual physical inspection of the ballots.

#2. In an election WITH random audits you would have to manipulate both the machine counts(vote flipping) and replace ballots to make the hand count match the machine count. This would almost certainly have to involve several people and while possible would not be easy.

[mojowork_n]

58. Very late reply, but it's worth taking a minute...

Your point #1 sums it up, and that's why this recount effort is being made.

The procedure for "randomly" selecting voting districts for recounts is itself kinda bogus.

According to the information at the GAB website the method doesn't call for anything as
reliable and certain as flipping coins, or throwing darts at a rotating grid of numbers, or
numbering ping pong balls, or anything like that. The state-sanctioned, officially approved
method relies on the "random number generator" in the software application "Excel."

So you have the possibility that a network of hackable e-vote tabulators relies on a
(solitary) hackable network PC to select those voting districts that would need to have
their "hand count match the machine count." Meaning your point #2 is less of a hurdle
than it would appear.

In fact, if you already know where machine counts had their votes flipped, you wouldn't
have to do anything. NO "chain of custody" of issues at all -- just make sure that the
[i[randomly selected audit zones are selected from the field of districts where no flipping
occurred.

[shcrane71]

41. Thankfully Somebody's doing SOMETHING! This is great!

[itsrigged]

48. who?

[mojowork_n]

51. These guys, the link from the OP

http://wisconsinwave.org/handcount/volunteer

[itsrigged]

52. That is great and I hope they find any and all fraud involving the voting machine totals

Remember this, one of the things walker did that we will never forget?

&feature=player_detailpage

I believe we have to keep spreading the word on these voting machines and the best way I know is to share Bev's videos on social sites... as many as possible... then tweet links to the pages and likes to facebook or shares to all active social media sites...

Thanks for the reply... I in saying who? Was not being cynical, rather just wanted to stir up more action...

[feilm95262se]

53. kick.

[Scuba]

54. Thanks, and welcome to DU!!

[sunnystarr]

55. K&R

[yourout]

56. Any update on how this is going?

I would love to know.

[dragonlady]

57. If I were the organizers of this

I would keep it as far under the radar as possible until results are ready. Although it keeps the rest of us on pins and needles.

[mojowork_n]

59. RIP -- G.V. Interview featuring thoughts on the November election...

Video link from TruthDig, germane to this thread:

&feature=player_embedded

from:

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/catching_up_with_gore_vidal_20120801/

.....Bottom Line:

All the more reason to verify the recent recall election.

[Scuba]

60. Thanks for posting. Had not previously seen this clip.