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a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 12:12 PM Sep 2022

Damn......how good of a poll is AARP??? it shows both Democrats losing with the 50+ group.

A poll released Thursday found voters 50 and older are driving support for the Republican candidates in Wisconsin's high-profile races for governor and U.S. Senate.

The poll, commissioned by AARP Wisconsin, surveyed voters of all ages, although a disproportionately large share of the respondents were 50 and older.

In the governor's race, Republican challenger Tim Michels led Democratic Gov. Tony Evers 50 percent to 47 percent. In the U.S. Senate race, GOP Sen. Ron Johnson led Democratic challenger Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes 51 percent to 46 percent.

The group, which advocates for older Americans, found support for the GOP candidates was stronger among those 50 and older.

https://www.wxow.com/townnews/politics/new-aarp-poll-michels-johnson-leading-with-support-from-voters-50/article_2b171541-fef3-5795-8491-2839a0099708.html

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Damn......how good of a poll is AARP??? it shows both Democrats losing with the 50+ group. (Original Post) a kennedy Sep 2022 OP
Social Security? XanaDUer2 Sep 2022 #1
I quit them for their continual begging for money. LakeArenal Sep 2022 #2
Don't know how good of a poll it is.... TheRealNorth Sep 2022 #3
Used to live there. Full of bigotry. live love laugh Sep 2022 #14
Wouldn't trust it JT45242 Sep 2022 #4
It is Wisconsin, what do you expect. This is why the younger people MUST turn out to vote JohnSJ Sep 2022 #5
Who even has a landline anymore? Meadowoak Sep 2022 #6
AARP members! ret5hd Sep 2022 #7
Please stop with this long-debunked canard Genki Hikari Sep 2022 #8
Agreed. But... sybylla Sep 2022 #15
Nevada checking in ampm Sep 2022 #9
Probably not happy seeing their retirement accounts plummeting while prices keep rising MichMan Sep 2022 #10
AARP not doing their job kacekwl Sep 2022 #11
I imagine far more than 51% of women will turnout ColinC Sep 2022 #12
I feel helpless G2theD Sep 2022 #17
If you can help get liberals to turnout. Anywhere. November 8 will be a great night in Wisconsin ColinC Sep 2022 #19
Thanks. G2theD Sep 2022 #20
AARP isn't the pollster - just the group that paid for the poll FBaggins Sep 2022 #13
Living in a rural county with a high 50+ population, this actually looks pretty good. sybylla Sep 2022 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2022 #18
Most older people have been through numerous dowturns and recessions. G2theD Sep 2022 #21
Barnes is getting hammered with negative ads budkin Oct 2022 #22
Ridiculously inept campaign jednick Oct 2022 #23
So bad. budkin Oct 2022 #24

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
3. Don't know how good of a poll it is....
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 12:21 PM
Sep 2022

But that result is not surprising to me. Most of the family members I have in WI that are 50+ either racist Trumpanzees or bigot-friendly independents.

JT45242

(2,278 posts)
4. Wouldn't trust it
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 12:21 PM
Sep 2022

The sampling and wording of AARP likely are slanted pro R.

Plus I doubt that only 25 percent of independent voters thing abortion is an important issue.

Plus large, 4.4 percent margin of error.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
8. Please stop with this long-debunked canard
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 12:41 PM
Sep 2022

No reputable polling firm relies on landlines alone anymore, and this poll is no different:

AARP commissioned the bipartisan polling team of Fabrizio Ward & Impact Research to conduct a survey. The firms interviewed 1,399 likely Wisconsin voters, which includes a statewide representative sample of 500 likely voters, with an oversample of 550 likely voters age 50 and older and an additional oversample of 349 Black likely voters age 50 and older, between September 18-25, 2022. The interviews were conducted via landline (30%), cellphone (35%), and SMS-to-web (35%). The margin of sampling error for the 500 statewide sample is ±4.4%; for the 855 total sample of voters 50+ is ±3.4%; for the 400 total sample of Black voters 50+ is ±4.9%.

Due to rounding, answer choices may not always add up to 100%. Data is specified in the report that it is among either the 18+ or 50+ universe. Partisan crosstabs in this report represent how people identify their partisan affiliation when asked, not how they are modeled on the voter file.


Link:

https://www.aarp.org/content/dam/aarp/research/surveys_statistics/politics/2022/aarp-wisconsin-2022-elections-voter-survey.doi.10.26419-2Fres.00550.017.pdf

Note that going to the link will download a PDF file that has not only the methodology, but also all of the questions and responses.

sybylla

(8,510 posts)
15. Agreed. But...
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 02:30 PM
Sep 2022

who answers their phone for someone they don't know anymore? Someone who isn't in their contact list?

Doesn't that make it hard for any pollster to claim they got a clean "random" sample set anymore?

I will definitely download the pdf. Thanks for sharing.

ampm

(301 posts)
9. Nevada checking in
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 12:54 PM
Sep 2022

Yup just showing who they are finally. I read their articles and I was watching how they are leaning more right. Their more about products that don't help seniors

MichMan

(11,931 posts)
10. Probably not happy seeing their retirement accounts plummeting while prices keep rising
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 12:57 PM
Sep 2022

The party in power is going to get blamed. Just how it is.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
11. AARP not doing their job
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 01:01 PM
Sep 2022

advocating for seniors apparently. Republicans bad for seniors is the message they should be sending.

ColinC

(8,295 posts)
12. I imagine far more than 51% of women will turnout
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 01:43 PM
Sep 2022

Thinking closer to 55%. I also expect there to be slightly fewer whites than this poll shows, and likely a lot more young voters. With those adjustments, Wisconsin could easily go Dem. It's all about GOTV

G2theD

(593 posts)
17. I feel helpless
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 02:38 PM
Sep 2022

I am 67 and don’t want anyone screwing with social security or medicare. But I only have one vote, regardless what the MAGA freaks think.

I’m expecting women to turn out at a rate between 60-70% of eligible women voters. I expect most women and their male allies to vote for the referendum to nullify the 1849 abortion laws in Wisconsin which doesn’t allow for rape and incest exceptions. Of course this is a non-binding referendum so our republican legislature will reject it no matter the outcome.

Madison and Milwaukee are very liberal. The problem is with all the Trump sycophants up north. We can defeat them but only if we can get all good people to vote. I’m right on the border of pessimist and optimist.

ColinC

(8,295 posts)
19. If you can help get liberals to turnout. Anywhere. November 8 will be a great night in Wisconsin
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 05:32 PM
Sep 2022

If you can volunteer to knock on doors for a local campaign, that is a great start. If you can't do that, perhaps you can make phone calls instead. If you can't do either of those things, just making sure that every single liberal you know doesn't forget to vote, could do the trick. Sometimes you'll find that your most reliable voting friend might still forget, and you could be the one to make sure they don't.


FBaggins

(26,739 posts)
13. AARP isn't the pollster - just the group that paid for the poll
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 02:14 PM
Sep 2022

There's nothing special about Fabrizio, Lee & Associates/Impact Research, but better polling (e.g., PPP) in recent days shows a similar age disparity in support

sybylla

(8,510 posts)
16. Living in a rural county with a high 50+ population, this actually looks pretty good.
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 02:34 PM
Sep 2022

I wish my county were only 50% red. #SupremacyRUs

As almost always happens, the urban areas will have to pull through for us.

Response to a kennedy (Original post)

G2theD

(593 posts)
21. Most older people have been through numerous dowturns and recessions.
Thu Sep 29, 2022, 11:28 PM
Sep 2022

They understand it always bounced back.

My 401k is down 27% but I try not to think about it. I know it’s just temporary.

Just don’t take any money out now unless you absolutely have no options.

I just hope the younger people understand these things.

jednick

(6 posts)
23. Ridiculously inept campaign
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 09:21 PM
Oct 2022

I haven't signed in to DU in a long time, and returned to see if anyone was commenting about this. It doesn't look like it. He started the "I know what milk costs, and my mom was a teacher and my dad worked third shift" routine in MAY. Enough, already! This is even worse than Feingold's campaign six years ago, and I thought that one was awful. Hit Johnson on Social Security and Medicare. There's twelve years of idiotic remarks they can use. He's going nowhere.

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