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Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:59 PM Feb 2016

Be careful about comparing electricity rate plans

I routinely switch providers in search of strategically lowering my rates, and this time around I noticed some of the providers are offering rate plans which are very deceiving.

If you have ever been to the powertochoose web site, you probably know that rates are quoted for 500, 1000, and 2000 kwh usage rates.

As an example, I'll quote different rate plans which appear at first to be similar, but are quite different.

The first is the I LUV U 12 plan from Hino which advertises 10.5, 1.1, and 6.1 cents for the three different usage rates.

The second is the Prime 12-month plan from Infinite with 11.2, 1.2, and 6.2 cents.

The third is the Extra Saver 12 plan from Pennywise with 10.5, 1.2, and 6.5 cents.

At first glance you might think all three of these plans are pretty similar in their pricing, but the reality is you can wind up paying drastically different amounts. The key to navigating the minefield is knowing your normal usage rate for the time period you sign up for. Most of the plans are by 3, 6, or 12 month intervals. Normally the shorter intervals usually have the best rates, but this is not always true, and if your rate plan ends in the middle of the summer when rates typically go up, you could wind up paying significantly more when you renew. So usually the best strategy is to pick a plan that will get you through the summer if you are running the HVAC a lot during the hottest months, or if you have electric heat you might want to strategically plan out your winters as well although rates in the winter typically go down which is a good time to sign up for 12 month plans if that's what you want. In this case, all the examples are in 12 month intervals to make it easy.

All of the plans are probably going to charge you what is called TDSP which is the electrical delivery provider's connection fee. This is based on where you live, and is usually around $5-10. Most rate plans simply pass that cost on to you without markup. In my case it's $5.25 so I'll use that for the example.

Let's say your highest usage rate last year was 2,345 kwh.

For the first plan, reading the fine print, you will pay TDSP($5.25), no minimum usage fee since it's over 500kwh, and 6.1 cents times 2,345 ($143.05), for $148.30 total.
For the second plan you will pay TDSP($5.25), plus 11.203 cents times 2,345 ($262.71), for $267.96.
For the third plan you will pay TDSP($5.25), plus a base charge of $7.95, plus 4.4 cents times 2,345 ($103.18) for $116.38 total.

So as you can see you would wind up paying very different amounts depending on which plan you had.

Now let's say your typical bill in the spring and fall is 1,234 kwh.

You'd pay $18.82, $43.50, or $13.20 respectively.

Now let's say your lowest bill in the winter is 456 kwh.

You'd pay $53.13, $56.34, $33.26 respectively.

It's worth noting that even though all three plans quoted nearly identical rates for 500, 1000, and 2000kwh usage rates the actual charges varied widely with the 3rd plan being significantly cheaper in all real world instances. It's also worth noting that the higher usage rate of 1,234 was cheaper than the lower usage rate of 456kwh under all three plans. This is not a mistake. It's just how the plans sometimes work. So you just have to run different scenarios through the fine print and gamble with what you think you might use to find the best plan.

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Be careful about comparing electricity rate plans (Original Post) Major Nikon Feb 2016 OP
And that's why I wish SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #1
Living in a co-op area means you get low rates all the time without having to sign up for anything Major Nikon Feb 2016 #3
Oh, I know decent rates can be found, SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #4
Personally I have never had any customer service and complaint issues Major Nikon Feb 2016 #5
Here's another tip Major Nikon Feb 2016 #2
Good tip. Thanks. Garry Denke Apr 2016 #7
OP Errors. Be Careful. Garry Denke Apr 2016 #6
Yes, that's correct Major Nikon Apr 2016 #8

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
3. Living in a co-op area means you get low rates all the time without having to sign up for anything
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:34 AM
Feb 2016

However, I can usually match or beat what my co-workers pay who live in co-op areas. The reason is my usage rates are pretty simple. I have gas heat and I only run my AC for 3 months out of the year. So for those 3 months my usage level goes up, but remains flat for the rest of the year. This allows me to pick plans throughout the year that are optimized for those usage levels.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
4. Oh, I know decent rates can be found,
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 12:00 PM
Feb 2016

And that you need to know your usage. But it's such a pain. Especially researching customer service and complaint issues.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
5. Personally I have never had any customer service and complaint issues
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:01 PM
Feb 2016

I've signed up with about a dozen different companies since deregulation. So anymore I don't even pay attention to that. Every one of these companies I've found has a web site where you set up your account, and I always opt for automatic payment directly from a bank account I use to pay bills. When it comes time to switch, the service you sign up for handles all the details required for switching. So for me it's as simple as them charging me for my electricity and me paying them. I'm sure there's potential for lots of things to go wrong in different circumstances, but I haven't personally ran across any. I suspect the problems most people have is not understanding why they were charged for a certain level of usage. As I demonstrated, it's quite possible to be charged three times more for 1/3rd the number of kwh used. So if someone didn't understand the fine print in their contract, they might be very perplexed as to why they were charged a very different amount from one month to the next.

Garry Denke

(4 posts)
6. OP Errors. Be Careful.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 07:53 PM
Apr 2016

Pennywise Power (the third plan) charges 3.1617 cents In Addition To their stated 4.4 cents (now 4.7 cents), so all of Major Nikon's totals are incorrect for Pennywise Power. The actual cost is 7.8617 cents per Kwh, plus their stated fees. Hino Electric (the first plan) is the least expensive of Major Nikon's three examples. Always call first Before signing up with any of these companies.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. Yes, that's correct
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:24 PM
Apr 2016

I wasn't really putting this out there as an advertisement for the Pennywise plan, but rather as an example of how to navigate the mine field of comparing rate plans, and as you pointed out, I got blown up by one.

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