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JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 02:41 PM Feb 2015

Dems seek an alternative to Sestak for next year's Senate race against Toomey

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/meet-the-democratic-senate-candidate-who-drives-democrats-crazy-20150219

You can argue whether this is good or bad, but Sestak is not liked by many Democratic party insiders. He is criticized for being too independent, among other complaints. He narrowly lost to Toomey in the last Senate race and intends to run again next year.

http://www.politicspa.com/pa-sen-democrats-search-for-alternatives-to-sestak/63930/

There is one qualified name I have not yet heard mentioned - Former Congressman and Iraq War vet Patrick Murphy. He ran a statewide race against Kane for the AG primary, has name recognition in the important Phila. suburbs, and appears on MSNBC. Murphy was quoted as saying that he expects Sestak to be the Dem nominee. They served in the House together.

A number of candidates have pulled their names out of consideration, including Alysson Schwartz and Congressman Cartwright. According to the articles, Josh Shapiro had considered running, but instead may run for Attorney General. Former Congressman Chris Carney wants to run, but many Dems feel he is too conservative. Senator Hughes of Phila. and Phila. DA Williams also have discussed running.
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Dems seek an alternative to Sestak for next year's Senate race against Toomey (Original Post) JPZenger Feb 2015 OP
Patrick Murphy's bio JPZenger Feb 2015 #1
I like Sestak and think he has a good chance. femmocrat Feb 2015 #2
He also narrowly lost in a year that dullard got elected governor rpannier Feb 2015 #7
"Sestak is not liked" by insiders.... Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #3
Sestak has great experience and is a very active campaigner JPZenger Feb 2015 #4
Very good point Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #5
If Sestak & Murphy agree on the issues, there's no meaningful choice offered. Divernan Feb 2015 #9
It is hard for a Phila. Politician to win statewide JPZenger Feb 2015 #6
IMHO I thought Admiral Sestak was an excellent candidate Number9Dream Feb 2015 #8

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. I like Sestak and think he has a good chance.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 06:19 PM
Feb 2015

Patrick Murphy would be fine, too. Either one could knock out Toomey if Hillary runs and wins PA. Toomey has been the invisible senator for 6 years.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
7. He also narrowly lost in a year that dullard got elected governor
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:58 PM
Feb 2015

This time around it will be a national election year
I think Sestak would win, probably by 5 or 6 points

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
3. "Sestak is not liked" by insiders....
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:08 PM
Feb 2015

Too independent! What a shame! Sestak is a fine man. I still can't believe that Toomey beat him, but this time, we have a lot of evidence about how bad Toomey has been for PA.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
4. Sestak has great experience and is a very active campaigner
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:04 PM
Feb 2015

Sestak has a great level of experience (working in the Clinton White House, commanding a carrier battle group, and serving in the US House) and he is a very energetic and hard working campaigner. He also is well known in the Phila. suburbs, which is the biggest swing area in the state.

It is hard to portray a retired admiral one of them damn liberals.

I don't want a divisive primary, but it is valuable to give voters a choice. A contested primary can attract public attention to the issues, obtain lots of free media, and provide a backup candidate in case a candidate says or does something that turns off voters. Let's be glad McCord wasn't running in an uncontested primary for PA. Governor.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
5. Very good point
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:21 PM
Feb 2015

about having a contested primary. I just hope it isn't too contested.

Sometimes, we Democrats are too nice. I was shocked at how the Republicans were able to smear a man like Sestak with nothing. They did portray him as weak and liberal. I am ready to fight fire with fire against their tactics.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
9. If Sestak & Murphy agree on the issues, there's no meaningful choice offered.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:29 PM
Feb 2015

Toomey will have major financial backing from the GOP and no serious challenger in the primary, so he'll have all his funding to use in the general election. It's self-destructive for the Dems to spend significant funds on a primary battle between two good candidates, in addition to giving the GOP candidate sound bites to quote in the general election.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
6. It is hard for a Phila. Politician to win statewide
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:50 PM
Feb 2015

The main alternatives that are being talked about to Sestak are Philadelphia politicians. It is hard for a Philadelphia politician to win a statewide race. Yes, Rendell won. However, he mainly won because he was so popular in the counties AROUND Philadelphia. Those suburbanites felt that Rendell had returned the City on the right track, after so many Phila politicians had screwed it up.

Rendell won a contested primary, with almost all of the unions supporting Casey, his primary opponent. In many regards, Rendell was similar to Wolf, who won despite the fact that most of the unions and many of the party bosses were supporting McCord. Wolf and Rendell both had strong cross-over appeal to swing suburban voters. Corbett actually ran ads comparing Wolf to Rendell, despite the fact that Rendell had won re-election in a landslide.

The Dems will almost always lose the rural vote in PA. There isn't much value in trying to appeal to them with a statewide candidate such as Carney.

Number9Dream

(1,562 posts)
8. IMHO I thought Admiral Sestak was an excellent candidate
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 03:04 PM
Feb 2015

It seemed to me that Sestak ran a great campaign. He frequently compared his background as a Naval Admiral versus the Wall St. banker, Toomey. He highlighted Toomey's ties to China, and his far-right agenda. I think Toomey squeaked by because of his "A" rating from the NRA, who contributed about $2 million to his campaign. Toomey outspent Sestak by a wide margin. The influence of the NRA in PA is often underestimated. Now, Toomey has angered the NRA with his even lukewarm support of background checks. They might not contribute so much this time.

Mr. Sestak's campaign organization was surprisingly accessible. I had a member of his staff communicate with me via e-mail several times. He expressed much interest in Democratic Underground.

Patrick Murphy sounds like a fine candidate as well. I don't know how much name recognition he might have throughout PA.

"Democratic party insiders" haven't impressed me in any way. It seems that one of the Pennsylvania Democratic Party's biggest problems is coming up with candidates. My Republican Congressman, Charlie Dent, ran unopposed. Not easy to get Democratic voters to the polls when there's no Democrat to vote for.

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