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FakeNoose

(32,726 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 09:33 PM Jan 2023

Unexpected Pennsylvania House speaker (Mark Rozzi) hopes to retain job



(link) https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-state/2023/01/31/mark-rozzi-pa-house-speaker-ap-interview-democrats-republicans-mcclinton/stories/202301310111

HARRISBURG — The rank-and-file Democrat who was unexpectedly elected speaker of the Pennsylvania House as a compromise candidate earlier this month is saying he hopes to keep the job even after three vacant Democratic-leaning seats are filled in special elections next week.

In a lengthy interview late Monday in his state Capitol suite, Speaker Mark Rozzi said he won't necessarily step aside and support the Democratic floor leader, Rep. Joanna McClinton of Philadelphia, as speaker.

“I know how to count votes, first of all,” said Mr. Rozzi, who represents a mostly suburban area around Reading. “So, you know, at the end of the day she still has to get the votes to become speaker of the House.”

Democrats won 102 seats in November to Republicans' 101, which was enough for a bare Democratic majority after 12 years under Republican control, but one reelected Democrat died in October and two others resigned in December because they also won higher offices. Elections are next Tuesday to fill those three vacancies, all in the Pittsburgh area.

Republicans were not able to muster enough votes to elect their own speaker when the new session began Jan. 3, leading to Mr. Rozzi's emergence as an alternative. Ms. McClinton and all Democrats voted for him, along with all seven members of House GOP leadership and nine other Republicans.


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Well this is news to most of us. I thought Mark Rozzi already had the gavel for the next 2 years. He agreed to "not caucus" with either party and essentially remain independent for as long as he retains the title of Speaker. If Mr. Rozzi should step aside in favor of Joanna McClinton as the next Speaker, well, she has made no such promise.

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Unexpected Pennsylvania House speaker (Mark Rozzi) hopes to retain job (Original Post) FakeNoose Jan 2023 OP
It is the 3 vacancies that could change the house. Let's just hope the dems win Bev54 Jan 2023 #1
The 3 special elections are all in Allegheny County, and they're all solid blue districts FakeNoose Jan 2023 #2
Good, thanks. Bev54 Jan 2023 #3
"I thought Mark Rozzi already had the gavel for the next 2 years." BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #4
It sounds like somebody might be twisting Rozzi's arm to step down (?) FakeNoose Feb 2023 #5
Here is the problem BumRushDaShow Feb 2023 #6

FakeNoose

(32,726 posts)
2. The 3 special elections are all in Allegheny County, and they're all solid blue districts
Tue Jan 31, 2023, 10:05 PM
Jan 2023

There's not much of a realistic chance of any of those seats to flip.

What Mark Rozzi is talking about is something different. The House majority will remain Democratic but some people think there's a possibility that he would relinquish the Speaker's gavel. Apparently some Democrats are expecting that he will, but he's saying he doesn't necessarily want to.

Joanna McClinton, the Dem floor leader, tried to run for Speaker early in January but couldn't get enough Dem votes. Bryan Cutler is the Repuke floor leader and he couldn't secure enough votes to win either, so it was a stand-off. Mr. Cutler's solution was for Mr. Rozzi to run as an independent, if he promised not to caucus with either party while he held the Speakership. By agreeing to that, Mr. Rozzi was able to win enough Repuke votes along with all of the current Dem votes. That's how it happened.

BumRushDaShow

(129,376 posts)
4. "I thought Mark Rozzi already had the gavel for the next 2 years."
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 08:12 PM
Feb 2023

I did too.

There was an article earlier in January in the Inquirer with the below -

A Black lawmaker from Philly was in line to be Pa.’s first female House speaker. They elected a white guy instead.

by Layla A. Jones, Andrew Seidman, and Anna Orso
Updated Jan 6, 2023

(snip)


Allies praise McClinton’s leadership

Most House members are staying tight-lipped about the still-unusual House speaker election. But State Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta (D., Philadelphia) said in an interview that Rozzi was “the least worst option,” saying the party avoided a GOP speaker. Kenyatta hopes McClinton will become speaker, and said her support for Rozzi was politically savvy. “I believe when we have full complement, Joanna will become speaker,” he said.

State Sen. Anthony Hardy Williams, a close McClinton ally, described her support of Rozzi as nimble, astute politicking. He said by backing Rozzi, she effectively called Republicans’ bluff. “Again, a very smart leader, [McClinton] understood the wisdom of the moment, along with her colleagues,” he said. Asked how McClinton is handling the disappointment of not being named speaker, Williams said: “She’s strong. ... She’s a smart person. She knew the hand she was being dealt, and she delivered on the hand.”

McClinton spoke briefly with reporters immediately after Tuesday’s vote. “I’m excited today that we were able to elect a Democrat from amongst our ranks to the speakership here in the House of Representatives for the first time in more than 10 years,” she said. Asked whether she was committed to a full two-year session of Rozzi’s speakership, McClinton kept silent.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/joanna-mcclinton-pennsylvania-house-speaker-election-20230106.html


The article headline is a bit click-baity and is attempting to stoke innuendos regarding strategies.

Aside from that, I am thinking there are a couple possibilities - one where once they have all their reps elected and in place, that Rozzi would "choose to" resign the seat and they hold a new election. He doesn't seem intent on want to really switch out of the Democratic party from what has been hinted.

Alternately, since they don't have Rules in place yet, once they have all of their members in and as long as they stay in lock-step, they could enact something that might involve a power share or temp term limit for the role or perhaps "rotating" - but Democrats only. I don't know how much the state Constitution might be involved in defining how a Speaker is chosen and their role, let alone the inner workings of the state Assembly, but I expect like the federal one, they leave it up to each chamber to "decide their own Rules".

Just brainstorming...

FakeNoose

(32,726 posts)
5. It sounds like somebody might be twisting Rozzi's arm to step down (?)
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 10:32 PM
Feb 2023

I don't know, it's a complete guess on my part.

Mr. Rozzi has his own reasons for sticking this out. He's wants to make sure the child endangerment (pedophile) laws get the statute of limitations extended because it's pitifully short now. (I think the charges must be filed within 3 years of the occurrence, and it's way too short.) That's been his goal all along, and for some reason the strategy is to get a constitutional amendment passed. Wouldn't an Executive Order by the Governor have been an easier way to do this? So he still doesn't have his amendment bill passed, and it's going to miss the deadline for getting it in for the May primary.

If Mr. Rozzi gives up the gavel in favor of Joanna McClinton, he'd better have an ironclad guarantee from her that the amendment gets her first priority. Otherwise, why would he step down? I'm just spitballin' here because I don't have any insider knowledge.

BumRushDaShow

(129,376 posts)
6. Here is the problem
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:30 AM
Feb 2023

We are in this sad situation because back in 2020, former SOS Kathy Boockvar's staff, who were jammed up dealing with insurrectionists (including GOP members in the PA state legislature AND those who were in Congress from PA), trying to throw out the ballots of voters in the state in fall 2020 (where lawsuits continued into 2021), forgot to prepare an announcement of the Amendment to appear in the media (print I believe) per law, ahead of it appearing on the primary ballot in 2021.

Thus the deadline was missed for it to go on the ballot in 2021 when it should have.

Because of that, she ended up stepping down.

That timing for the ballot initiative would have completed the process of the earlier bill passing 2 consecutive legislative sessions before being eligible for a referendum.

Fast-forward to this year 2023 - Republicans STILL control the state Senate with the loon Kim Ward in charge, who some keep wanting to praise, but who was involved in stoking the insurrection by supporting the crap that Mastriano did in 2020 with Ghouliani.

THEY passed a bill on party lines that not only had the sexual assault Amendment on it, but ADDED "poison pill" Amendments to modify the state Constitution to implement voter suppression by instituting draconian Voter ID requirements (most likely the type that failed in court when Corbett was promoting it in 2011/2012) AND they added an Amendment to further circumvent the Governor's role by neutering the ability of a Governor to draft regulations, giving the legislature the authority to overturn them.

IOW, the loon GOP here, including their leaders like Kim Ward, are pushing hard for implementing the "independent state legislature" theory promoted by the criminal John Eastman, and are now engaged in efforts to overthrow the Executive Branch not only here in PA, but other states.

I.e., GOP who are not in states with a trifecta for their party, have been on a rampage to change the state Constitutions to neuter any Governors who are Democrats.

We are now in an era where the GOP have been radicalized in the states and that must be taken into account when proceeding with any further legislative efforts and who is in control.

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