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Triana

(22,666 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:51 PM Jul 2013

Legislators in Raleigh are trying to END background checks on all handgun sales in North Carolina

How many of your friends and family know that state legislators in Raleigh are trying to END background checks on all handgun sales in North Carolina?

If the current version of House Bill 937 is passed, it would gut the existing handgun purchase permit system, effectively eliminating background checks for private handgun sales.

This means more handguns will be illegally trafficked and more convicted criminals will have easy access to handguns in our state. And we know this because that's exactly what happened in Missouri.

Help make sure it doesn't happen here in North Carolina.

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Legislators in Raleigh are trying to END background checks on all handgun sales in North Carolina (Original Post) Triana Jul 2013 OP
They value guns (and NRA money) more than human life. Period. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #1
jthey are so BAD! barbtries Jul 2013 #2
You don't know the law private transfers of handguns in nc ceonupe Jul 2013 #3
This is partially correct, folks saying it would "end background checks on all sales" are incorrect Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #5
House Bill 397 is a VERY BAD IDEA........ Vote it down! rdharma Jul 2013 #4
 

ceonupe

(597 posts)
3. You don't know the law private transfers of handguns in nc
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:14 PM
Jul 2013

Never required a handgun purchase permit.

Only ffl(dealer) sales did.

This law removes the data racist handgun purchase permit process that uses the same NICS system dealers use when they sell a gun.

A good point for removing this system is because te permits last for a year and dealers can take them instead of running a NICS check people who used to be able to buy a gun but since have had disqualifying events can still use their old handgun permit to buy a gun bypassing the instant background check.
The Charlotte paper did a story on this earlier this year.

But to clear things up the proposed changes would stop the audio rial handgun permit process and move all counties to a uniform policy of instant background checks for all purchases by persons other than CCW/CHP holders.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
5. This is partially correct, folks saying it would "end background checks on all sales" are incorrect
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 07:36 AM
Jul 2013

But yes, in NC a private transfer of a handgun was supposed to require a permit to change hands. The law is about as enforced as the ban on oral sex was.

The pistol purchase permit system in NC is an old Jim Crow law.

It requires a person to go ask the sheriff for a permit, and the sheriff can use whatever criteria he wants to add to federal guidelines to deny a permit.

When I was growing up in Gaston County, they required a letter of reference from an "upstanding citizen of good moral character" who had lived in the county at least 2 years to get a permit, to prove you were an "upstanding citizen of good moral character".

Of course it was well understood that "upstanding citizen of good moral character" was code for "white". The sheriffs office could allow a white person with a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge to get a permit, but decide a black man didn't qualify. And a black man had to have a letter, so beg permission of, a white man.

I still remember my dad having to get one of the white guys down at the VFW to write him a letter so he could buy a pistol.

If this system is eliminated, then the gun dealer will still do the instant background check. So checks will still be done, people saying that they will end are being dishonest.

Yeah, people are supposed to exchange the permits for private sale. That is probably the most broken law in the state, nobody knows about it, nobody does it, nobody enforces it, nobody cares about it- and when somebody does it, they don't report the sale back anywhere once it is done- so changing this will really change nothing in the real world.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
4. House Bill 397 is a VERY BAD IDEA........ Vote it down!
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jul 2013

But..... the statement and graphic by the Mayors Against Illegal Guns is incorrect.

This video explains much more clearly what the bill contains ....

http://www.digtriad.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=2472827420001

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