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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:21 PM Nov 2013

Proposal 1 Authorizing Casino Gaming

The proposed amendment to section 9 of article 1 of the Constitution would allow the Legislature to authorize up to seven casinos in New York State for the legislated purposes of promoting job growth, increasing aid to schools, and permitting local governments to lower property taxes through revenues generated. Shall the amendment be approved?

An umbrella prohibition against gambling was added to the State Constitution in 1894. The Constitution has since been amended to allow certain forms of gambling – including state lotteries and wagering on horse racing – but casino gambling remains illegal in New York.

This proposal would amend the State Constitution to permit casino gambling at no more than seven facilities statewide for the legislated purposes of promoting job growth, increasing aid to schools, and permitting local governments to lower property taxes through revenues generated. Under a law enacted by the state legislature this year, if the ballot proposal is passed, up to four casinos could be placed right away in three upstate regions: the Hudson Valley-Catskill area, the Capital District- Saratoga area, and the Southern Tier. The law prohibits additional casinos for at least seven years.

Under this law, if this ballot proposal does not pass, gambling would be authorized at up to four new video lottery gaming facilities.

Read more at http://www.nyccfb.info/public/voter-guide/general_2013/ballot_proposals.aspx#Proposal1

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Proposal 1 Authorizing Casino Gaming (Original Post) hrmjustin Nov 2013 OP
Reasons to Vote YES hrmjustin Nov 2013 #1
Reasons to Vote NO hrmjustin Nov 2013 #2
Personally I think there is a point of saturation within the metro-NY area now... Historic NY Nov 2013 #3
This bill would put a casino in Coney Island. I am voting no on this. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #4
Voting no. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #5
I don't really mind casinos johnd83 Nov 2013 #6
It may pass. Some of my family voted for it but I did not. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #7
I am indifferent toward the outcome johnd83 Nov 2013 #8
I do not want a casino in Coney Island so I voted no. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #9
i voted no. i think the negatives outweigh the positives. ejpoeta Nov 2013 #10
I agree 100%. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #11
ditto otherone Nov 2013 #12
I also voted no. We don't need the problems that would come with this Rhiannon12866 Nov 2013 #13
One small effect of this passing is... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #14
I have no doubt Trump has his hands in this. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #15
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
1. Reasons to Vote YES
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:23 PM
Nov 2013

Reasons to Vote YES
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Casinos will jumpstart the economies of economically depressed regions upstate by attracting tourists, creating jobs, and generating revenue.
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This will generate substantial tax revenues for state and local governments. Most of these revenues would be used to finance public education and lower property taxes.
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Casino gambling is a fun recreational activity that should be more accessible to New Yorkers.
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Many state residents already visit casinos in neighboring states such as New Jersey and Connecticut. New York should reap the profits from New York residents’ gambling, not these other states.
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There should be a coherent, uniform state policy with respect to casino gambling. New York already permits video lottery terminals at racetracks and has five Vegas-style casinos on Native American tribal land, as permitted under federal law.

http://www.nyccfb.info/public/voter-guide/general_2013/ballot_proposals.aspx#Proposal1

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
2. Reasons to Vote NO
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:24 PM
Nov 2013

Reasons to Vote NO
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Legalized casinos are a predatory scheme to raise money from the poor and vulnerable. They would lead to an increase in compulsive gambling, which has financial and social consequences for victims and their loved ones.
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Casinos attract illegal activities such as forgery, fraud, theft, embezzlement, and prostitution. These and other problems caused by gambling could cost the state nearly $400 million per year.
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We should not permit casinos in New York before we more carefully study their potential impact. Casinos do not guarantee economic development, and sometimes have little overall economic effect.
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Casinos in New York will not be especially profitable, and will have a limited impact on regional economies, because the Northeast has recently become saturated with casinos.
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This proposal would have minimal short-term impact downstate because casinos would not be developed in New York City and nearby counties for at least seven years.
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We’re always promised that new state revenues will go toward education and lowering taxes, but this never seems to happen.

http://www.nyccfb.info/public/voter-guide/general_2013/ballot_proposals.aspx#Proposal1

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
3. Personally I think there is a point of saturation within the metro-NY area now...
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 07:22 PM
Nov 2013

you can only pack in so many seniors in a week..

Lets see free playing voucher, free food, transportation.....

johnd83

(593 posts)
6. I don't really mind casinos
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:14 PM
Nov 2013

If people want to gamble nothing really stops them. We might as well keep the revenue in the state. I think there is already an oversupply of casinos anyway so I don't really know what this will accomplish but the investment funds will help the local economies.

johnd83

(593 posts)
8. I am indifferent toward the outcome
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:21 PM
Nov 2013

I just didn't see any reason it shouldn't be allowed. Gambling is a terrible use of money. The odds are terrible. But people gamble no matter what so the money might as well stay in state.

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
10. i voted no. i think the negatives outweigh the positives.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:24 PM
Nov 2013

plus, as far as WNY goes... i think there are enough of them out this way. I fear passing such a proposition would only open the door to more casinos, and I don't want that.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
14. One small effect of this passing is...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:49 AM
Nov 2013

now that the the Shinnecocks finally have approval to open a tribal casino, the problems they've been having getting financing and a decent location are nothing compared to the problems they're looking at. Upstate, the Senecas and Mohawks might not see a point in expanding.

The Connecticut tribal casinos are looking at significantly reduced revenues and AC is sinking, too, although not by as much. So, competition for declining revenues means nobody's going to win this bet for a while.

This is all because Trump wants to build in the Catskills, isn't it?

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