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How can Iowans reconcile Trump with their Midwestern values, which I, as an American am quite (Original Post) zonkers Sep 2016 OP
Iowa today is not the Iowa of 40+ years ago rurallib Sep 2016 #1
Wow, what an enlightening explanation. It's pretty sad and pathetic. Tell me where you are moving zonkers Sep 2016 #2
We are only talking about it rurallib Sep 2016 #3
My buddy just moved back to N Michigan. Another moved to Washington. I drove zonkers Sep 2016 #4
We're thinking about Minnesota or Oregon. progressoid Sep 2016 #8
Sadly in every state there are blue pockets and red pockets rurallib Sep 2016 #9
Poison broadcasts from WHO radio for years not helpful IADEMO2004 Sep 2016 #5
our media in this state stinks rurallib Sep 2016 #6
Yeah after Senator Pig Nuts was elected 47of74 Sep 2016 #10
There is definitely a disconnect concerning Trump. progressoid Sep 2016 #7

rurallib

(62,426 posts)
1. Iowa today is not the Iowa of 40+ years ago
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 08:27 AM
Sep 2016

like so many other so called conservatives Iowa's supposed rock ribbed republicans have fallen for the lies and misleading propaganda of their party.

When once Iowans totally believed in education, we watch our ranking in education tumble like a rock lower and lower as Republicans slowly dismantle our education systems and blame it on the teachers and unions. We watch our environment slowly crumble and do nothing that could possibly bother the merchants of the farm chemicals. We mistrust our neighbors and treat outsiders with contempt. A far cry from the wave and howdy I grew up with.

The big changes in attitudes came with Reagan and Branstad. The occasional Dem at terrace Hill really hasn't changed direction.

Now we are watching Branstad dismantling Medicaid while his party cheers him on, same with our regent's institutions.

Iowans have become tribal just like the rest of the country. Republicans stand behind and watch their leaders tear down what was built over a long time by their forefathers - and cheer the likes of King, Grassley, Branstad and Ernst.

Iowa's "values" are now closer to Mississippi than Minnesota. We have lived here all our lives and are now actually considering moving. Except for the few blue dots in the red sea, Iowa is no longer Iowa.

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
2. Wow, what an enlightening explanation. It's pretty sad and pathetic. Tell me where you are moving
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:34 AM
Sep 2016

rurallib

(62,426 posts)
3. We are only talking about it
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:49 AM
Sep 2016

I have always wanted to move to Canada, but that won't happen as long as my wife is alive.
Mostly it will depend on where our kids land permanently if they ever do.

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
4. My buddy just moved back to N Michigan. Another moved to Washington. I drove
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 10:03 AM
Sep 2016

through Iowa last year in spring. Stayed in Iowa city for a few days. School was out. I know that towm is not representative of IA. people were nice. First time, I've been through it. I found the landscape soothing. Supermarkets were expensive and pretty much sucked, at least where I was. Housing was ugly except for the historical district.

Random... one thing that I find pretty stupid and awful.... the city destroyed all these nice brick buildings by letting people make really crappy second rate murals on them.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
8. We're thinking about Minnesota or Oregon.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 12:35 PM
Sep 2016

Yeah, I know, completely different kinds of states. We'll see in a year or two how it plays out.

rurallib

(62,426 posts)
9. Sadly in every state there are blue pockets and red pockets
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 02:14 PM
Sep 2016

Usually the blue are the cities and the red are rural. Even in the south that is true.
We have relatives in the Twin Cities and it is pretty nice there.

IADEMO2004

(5,555 posts)
5. Poison broadcasts from WHO radio for years not helpful
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 10:19 AM
Sep 2016

Education and health care get punched and choked but but we can manage to shower an Egyptian fertilizer plant with millions of dollars.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
10. Yeah after Senator Pig Nuts was elected
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 09:49 AM
Sep 2016

If I could have I would've packed up and moved to Minnesota right then and there.

There are times I still want to move up to the Twin Cities.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
7. There is definitely a disconnect concerning Trump.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 12:33 PM
Sep 2016

They'll still vote for him even after he said, ‘How stupid are the people of Iowa?’

It's disheartening to see what has happened to this state.

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