California Senate passes single-payer health care plan

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California Senate passes single-payer health care plan
By Katy Murphy | [e-mail] | Bay Area News Group
PUBLISHED: June 1, 2017 at 5:04 pm | UPDATED: June 1, 2017 at 6:35 pm

SACRAMENTO — As a legislative deadline loomed, California senators Thursday — in some cases, reluctantly — voted to pass a $400 billion plan to create a government-run health care system without a way to pay for it.

Senate Bill 562, by Sens. Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, and Toni Atkins, D-San Diego, passed 23-14 and will now advance to the Assembly, where it will likely be amended to include taxes. And that would mean the measure would require two-thirds votes in both chambers.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/01/california-senate-passes-single-payer-health-care-plan/

[still_one]

1. It may also require the public because of Proposition 13

[demosincebirth]

2. Explain, please (why prop 13)?

[stopbush]

5. Don't think so.

The public only gets to vote if local governments propose raising special taxes. As this is a statewide initiative, it only requires a 2/3 vote in both houses of the legislature. No public vote.

[still_one]

7. That is generally true, except I don't believe they have decided where the revenue

is coming from, and think that will be done in the Assembly

There is also something called the Gann Limit, which limits growth in spending of state and local governments.

I am not sure if this comes into play or not

[still_one]

6. Besides affecting limits on property taxes Proposition 13 may require public approval

for State Income Tax increase

1. Proposition 13 requires any measure enacted for the purpose of increasing state revenues to be approved by a two-thirds vote of each house of the legislature.

2. Voter Approval for Local “Special” Taxes Proposition 13 requires taxes
raised by local governments for a designated or special purpose to be approved by two-thirds of the voters.

3. In addition, a 2/3 majority is required in local elections when local governments propose to increase special taxes.

I do not know if proposition 13 comes into play for the taxes required for this Single Payer proposal:

https://www.californiataxdata.com/pdf/Prop13.pdf


From what I understand it still hasn't been determined where the revenue is coming from. The Assembly will decide that, and they it will go back to the Senate

[SunSeeker]

3. We do have a supermajority, but like in Vermont, everyone will freak out over the price tag.

Politicians don't like to increase taxes by that much, even if taxpayers will save money in the long run on single payer. It is the same political cowardice that killed single payer in Vermont.

[still_one]

8. Not necessarily. First we have a lot more people in California, and if it can be

demonstrated when the Assembly gets the bill, the details, and how it will be paid, I would not rule its passage out.

[BigmanPigman]

4. Yeah! I hope it gets passed soon. I have ACA with a few years to live.

Does anyone know what the schedules ares are for the rest of the process to be completed and go into a new law?