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femmedem

(8,203 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:55 PM Mar 2022

I spent the weekend practicing drawing with more precision.

This one feels like another step forward for me. It's from a reference photo from Stephen Bauman's Patreon page.
When I was younger, I never wanted to draw this way. Just didn't interest me. Now, even though it's slow going, it's so engaging and satisfying.

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I spent the weekend practicing drawing with more precision. (Original Post) femmedem Mar 2022 OP
Fantastic! sinkingfeeling Mar 2022 #1
Thank you! n/t femmedem Mar 2022 #4
Take it from me lunatica Mar 2022 #2
Yes, I love that technique, too. femmedem Mar 2022 #5
I added a bit more to my post lunatica Mar 2022 #6
Thank you! I added a bit more to mine, too. femmedem Mar 2022 #7
Thanks! lunatica Mar 2022 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #3
Thank you, Chin music! n/t femmedem Mar 2022 #8
That's amazing! Must feel very rewarding to be able KPN Mar 2022 #9
Thank you! Yes, so rewarding! femmedem Mar 2022 #11
Beautiful work! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #12
Thanks, Sheltielover! femmedem Mar 2022 #13
Beautiful!!! Karadeniz Mar 2022 #14
Thank you! n/t femmedem Mar 2022 #19
Wow! That's fabulous! paleotn Mar 2022 #15
Thanks, Paleotn! n/t femmedem Mar 2022 #21
Beautiful! James48 Mar 2022 #16
Thanks! femmedem Mar 2022 #23
Gorgeous. And with highlights. And with feeling. Beautiful. somaticexperiencing Mar 2022 #17
Thank you so much! femmedem Mar 2022 #24
ok, but no photographer did those details. very nice work. i'm a bit envious. in a good way. respect somaticexperiencing Mar 2022 #26
Femmedem, you are so talented! I love your work. MLAA Mar 2022 #18
Thank you so much. femmedem Mar 2022 #25
Nothing left to say Traildogbob Mar 2022 #20
Wow, thank you! femmedem Mar 2022 #28
Thank you. Traildogbob Mar 2022 #43
I'm certainly no expert, but looks amazingly good to me. trof Mar 2022 #22
Thank you! n/t femmedem Mar 2022 #30
Great work. Seriously great work Bristlecone Mar 2022 #27
Thank you! femmedem Mar 2022 #31
Your lighting is excellent, as is your shading Bristlecone Mar 2022 #35
Wow, incredible! Brava! ❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👏👏👏👏 LiberalLoner Mar 2022 #29
Thank you so much, LiberalLoner! femmedem Mar 2022 #33
Rendering faces using Toned Gray paper was my favorite BigmanPigman Mar 2022 #32
Thank you! I love toned paper, too. femmedem Mar 2022 #34
Another technique I still use is BigmanPigman Mar 2022 #37
I love kneaded erasers, too. femmedem Mar 2022 #44
It is her eyes for me. sheshe2 Mar 2022 #36
Thank you! femmedem Mar 2022 #45
Her eyes can be read in many ways. sheshe2 Mar 2022 #52
Very nice! whathehell Mar 2022 #38
Thank you! n/t femmedem Mar 2022 #46
You're quite welcome! whathehell Mar 2022 #59
That's GREAT!!! Trueblue Texan Mar 2022 #39
Go for it! femmedem Mar 2022 #47
I think it's beautiful! Grumpy Old Guy Mar 2022 #40
Thank you so much! femmedem Mar 2022 #48
Shhhh! Don't tell anyone! Grumpy Old Guy Mar 2022 #55
You've got to be kidding. You are THAT talented and you've Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2022 #41
Aw, thanks Laura PourMeADrink. femmedem Mar 2022 #49
Wow! Love this! lucca18 Mar 2022 #42
Thank youk, Lucca! n/t femmedem Mar 2022 #50
Very nicely done!!! bif Mar 2022 #51
Thank you! femmedem Mar 2022 #56
Awesome! Ocelot II Mar 2022 #53
Thank you, Ocelot! femmedem Mar 2022 #57
Amazing! PittBlue Mar 2022 #54
Thank you! femmedem Mar 2022 #58

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. Take it from me
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:21 PM
Mar 2022

That’s outstanding work! It’s inspirational! It looks like you used an eraser for the lit highlights in her hair. That’s a wonderful technique! I love it!

Have you ever used a smudger for blending? I love using them because you can build wonderful variations of blending, like darker shadows within shadows and the effect is of smoother gradations and overall softness. It works really well when you use it on human faces. But I love the crosshatching effect your shadows and darker shades!

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
5. Yes, I love that technique, too.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:30 PM
Mar 2022

Thanks, dear Lunatica. I did pull out lighter hairs with a kneaded eraser and used a white chalk pencil for a few strands. I also tried to get some definition in the hair by drawing in a few darker shapes, which made some of the lighter hairs stand out. I never drew hair quite like this before. It was slow going but engaging.

I used a smudging tool here and there but I wanted to see if I could control the pencil well enough without it. It probably looks coarser than I realize, given my mediocre eyesight.

Edited to add: I got those darkest shades with Staedtler Mars Lumograph black pencils--6b and 8b. They don't get shiny like pure graphite.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. I added a bit more to my post
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:33 PM
Mar 2022

if you want to go back and look.

I’ve always admired how you render hair. It gives your self portraits more body and weight. You really do a terrific job!

Response to femmedem (Original post)

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
11. Thank you! Yes, so rewarding!
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:56 PM
Mar 2022

If you've seen my posts from a few years ago, you know how much I've improved. I keep pinching myself; this seems like I couldn't possibly have drawn it.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
24. Thank you so much!
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:02 PM
Mar 2022

I'm proud of my progress on this one, but a lot of credit goes to the photographer. It was a beautiful reference photo.

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
18. Femmedem, you are so talented! I love your work.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 06:55 PM
Mar 2022

This and your recent self portrait have a softness and ethereal quality. 💖

Traildogbob

(8,744 posts)
20. Nothing left to say
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 06:58 PM
Mar 2022

That is stunningly great, you have a real gift. The emotion in the eyes, I can feel it. Thank you for sharing what you have. I can barely keep a straight line with stick figures. I can’t stop looking at it. Keep sharing with us.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
28. Wow, thank you!
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:07 PM
Mar 2022

Such a kind reply; that made my night.

Also: I bet you could learn to draw if you had the right instruction. A light bulb went off for me when I first read Drawing On the Right Side of the Brain. That was decades ago, and I've learned a lot since (especially lately), but that got me started.

Traildogbob

(8,744 posts)
43. Thank you.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:45 PM
Mar 2022

I will check that out. I was a draftsman for 8 years and did caricatures of fellow students and teachers while in college for jokes but that’s it. So I have used my hands to create. I used rapidograph ink pens on Mylar with French curves and drafting triangles drawing maps of county private property for tax basis. Pre GIS and computers. I’m a life long guitarist and performer so have some creativity inside. But I have always admired true pure drawing talent. My last Division chair was a pencil artists. He gave me one of his really good ones, of early Stevie Nicks. This work you posted really hit me. It is amazing and like I said the emotion in her eyes and face, is kind of what many of us feel like during this time in the world. Thank you again for sharing it. You obviously put heart and soul into it, and with your latent, it came through.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
31. Thank you!
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:09 PM
Mar 2022

It was really an exercise because I had taken an online portrait course and I wanted to practice what I learned, but I'm kind of gobsmacked at how much better it is than any of my previous work.

Bristlecone

(10,127 posts)
35. Your lighting is excellent, as is your shading
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:13 PM
Mar 2022

The hair seems to have a touch of gray, the lips are perfect and the crosshatch on the lapel is subtle and real. It really is great.

BigmanPigman

(51,603 posts)
32. Rendering faces using Toned Gray paper was my favorite
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:10 PM
Mar 2022

way to illustrate. The gray paper using black and white conte crayon is so much fun. I love the contrasts and highlights. This was the easiest way to illustrate using a neutral background. In Art School, Parsons, this was what most of my teachers used in our lessons. I wasn't able to find "Fashion Pads" for years and years.

I applaud your rendering and the use of this wonderful medium. Most of the greatest artists used this method hundreds of years ago.

BigmanPigman

(51,603 posts)
37. Another technique I still use is
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:25 PM
Mar 2022

my kneaded eraser. It is wonderful to use it on Toned Gray. Kneaded erasers have been overlooked as a great way to create the highs and lows. I'm sure you already know of this gem.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
44. I love kneaded erasers, too.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:49 PM
Mar 2022

I used it a bit in this drawing, mainly in the hair. I also used it to knock back the whole drawing after I blocked everything in: just formed it into a tube and gently rolled it over the whole drawing. That was a new technique for me, something I learned watching an online demo.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
45. Thank you!
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:52 PM
Mar 2022

You know, I wasn't trying to convey emotion but sometimes just observing something and rendering something infuses it with meaning. Lots of credit to the photographer; it was a beautiful photograph I was drawing from.

Trueblue Texan

(2,430 posts)
39. That's GREAT!!!
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:36 PM
Mar 2022

I also had very little interest in drawing or painting or any kind of art when I was younger, but oddly now that I'm an old broad, drawing is something I want to learn...and learn because it will support other creative endeavors like painting and digital graphic design. Thanks for sharing.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
47. Go for it!
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:56 PM
Mar 2022

There are tons of good online resources. I've learned a lot from Stephen Bauman, Cesar Santos and David Jamieson of Vitruvian Studio. Books are good but I learn so much more from watching demonstrations--something I didn't get even when I was in art school in the 80s.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
41. You've got to be kidding. You are THAT talented and you've
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:57 PM
Mar 2022

never ever bragged??? All I can say is WOW. Very impressed. When I first saw it thought eastern European.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
49. Aw, thanks Laura PourMeADrink.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:59 PM
Mar 2022

My drawing has come a long way over the last few years but this one is a step or two better than any of my others.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
56. Thank you!
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 07:21 AM
Mar 2022

Btw, I like your knight. I thought you did a good job of painting a medieval figure in perspective--not easy!

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