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Finished "The Approaching Horror" acrylic 8x8 on canvas board (Original Post) LiberalLoner Feb 9 OP
Damn, that is fantastic. You really captured a moment! MLAA Feb 9 #1
Thank you so so so much! LiberalLoner Feb 9 #3
I started trying to paint about 7 years ago. I thought I'd only do abstracts. MLAA Feb 9 #7
Wow, OMG, this is incredibly good! Oh I wish I could paint this well! Wow wow wow! LiberalLoner Feb 9 #13
You do beautiful work, do not sell yourself short! MLAA Feb 9 #20
Thank you so so much for your kind words and encouragement! I won't give up! Your paintings are so LiberalLoner Feb 10 #36
This is a lovely painting! Ocelot II Feb 9 #16
I believe you are the artist of a wonderful painting of a white cat on a carpet. I saved it for inspiration. Am I MLAA Feb 9 #19
I love these! They're beautiful! Ocelot II Feb 9 #21
Exactly! It motivated me and helped me with and textiles. I really struggled with that carpet the white dog MLAA Feb 9 #24
I struggled with the carpet, too; tried to copy all the details - until Ocelot II Feb 10 #52
So funny, my teacher had to tell me to make the carpet very loose over and over. MLAA Feb 14 #67
Beautiful work! Diamond_Dog Feb 9 #28
Thank you! MLAA Feb 9 #30
Wow!!!! Is that oils? So gorgeous! LiberalLoner Feb 10 #38
Thank you! This one is oils on gesso board. 🙂 MLAA Feb 10 #43
These are absolutely stunning. You are so talented! Diamond_Dog Feb 9 #29
You are too kind, Diamond_Dog! MLAA Feb 9 #31
It's the truth! Diamond_Dog Feb 9 #32
Oh these are so amazing!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ LiberalLoner Feb 10 #39
Thank you. I get so attached that sometimes after finishing I keep them around a few weeks before giving them to their MLAA Feb 10 #44
I LOVE... GiqueCee Feb 10 #42
My teacher says that one and the two cats on a soft background are his favorites. MLAA Feb 10 #45
❤️ LiberalLoner Feb 10 #37
The kitty on the right is especially good! n/t Ms. Toad Feb 9 #23
Thank you! For that one I had an excellent photo to go on. My photo for the one on the left was fuzzier 😉 MLAA Feb 9 #25
Wow! That is simply gorgeous work! Diamond_Dog Feb 9 #27
This is excellent! Goddessartist Feb 14 #65
Aww, he has a cute nose! Ocelot II Feb 9 #17
That is fantastic! LoisB Feb 9 #2
Thank you so so much for the encouragement! I am thinking I might try to LiberalLoner Feb 9 #4
I love oil so much more than acrylic. Native Feb 9 #10
Me too, it looks so nice, but am struggling to get detail in oils and to control them. When LiberalLoner Feb 9 #14
On trick I do is once I get part the way done and I like where it's headed I spray it with retouch varnish. MLAA Feb 10 #46
I usually do a monochrome underpainting first - that way Ocelot II Feb 10 #54
I had forgotten that approach. When I first started a very accomplished artist and university art professor MLAA Feb 10 #57
That olive green underpainting is verdaccio - the technique of the old masters. Ocelot II Feb 10 #58
So good to know that, he was doing a portrait when he told me that! MLAA Feb 10 #59
Not at all! The guy I've been taking a painting class is, though. Ocelot II Feb 10 #60
Just lovely! AbnerBunny Feb 9 #5
Thank you so so much ❤️ now I feel this is good enough to give to my husband, he wanted a painting of LiberalLoner Feb 9 #6
I really like the cat's expression. sinkingfeeling Feb 9 #8
Thank you so much! I thought it would make a unique kind of portrait...thank you for looking and commenting! ❤️ LiberalLoner Feb 9 #11
A mouse's-eye view! Nice! Ocelot II Feb 9 #9
Thank you so so much! ❤️ LiberalLoner Feb 9 #12
I have also discovered that preparing the canvas makes a huge difference. Ocelot II Feb 9 #15
Nice piece! GiqueCee Feb 9 #18
Wow, thank you so so much! 😍❤️ I really appreciate the kind words and advice, LiberalLoner Feb 10 #35
The first... GiqueCee Feb 10 #41
Excellent advice! MLAA Feb 10 #47
I like doing still lifes, too... GiqueCee Feb 10 #49
I'm terrified of water color, it seems so unforgiving. I don't draw well, so I do a lot of hit and miss and adjust MLAA Feb 10 #50
Well, I can draw... GiqueCee Feb 10 #56
Thank you I will try to be more patient with myself ❤️ LiberalLoner Feb 11 #61
Here's something my teacher, a professional artist, does. Every so often he digs out an old painting he MLAA Feb 10 #48
Some advice along those lines that I got from my teacher: Ocelot II Feb 10 #53
Please share what you are working on 🙂 MLAA Feb 14 #68
I just finished a puffin in my bird series. Ocelot II Feb 14 #70
This is wonderful. The early, hazy sun shimmering on the water is masterful! MLAA Feb 14 #71
I'll post in a separate thread - there are too many for this one. Ocelot II Feb 14 #72
Great! MLAA Feb 14 #73
We must have the same teacher haha. MLAA Feb 14 #69
Very nice! n/t Ms. Toad Feb 9 #22
Thank you so much! I have so much to learn in acrylics and oils and I'm struggling at the moment. LiberalLoner Feb 10 #33
Awesome 3auld6phart Feb 9 #26
Thank you so much! ❤️ LiberalLoner Feb 10 #34
You look like an acrylic master! bif Feb 10 #40
Thank you so much for always being kind to me! ❤️ LiberalLoner Feb 11 #62
You certainly caught the feeling!!! Think. Again. Feb 10 #51
Thank you so so much! 😍 and Bobo also says thank you! 😻 LiberalLoner Feb 11 #63
Beautiful! people Feb 10 #55
Thank you so much for your kind words! ❤️ LiberalLoner Feb 11 #64
This is fabulous and hilarious! Brava! Goddessartist Feb 14 #66

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
3. Thank you so so so much!
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 06:32 PM
Feb 9

My reference photo wasn’t that great, Bobo was resting on my arm and I snapped the photo with one hand…

But I liked his expression so wanted to turn it into a painting.

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MLAA

(17,296 posts)
7. I started trying to paint about 7 years ago. I thought I'd only do abstracts.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 06:41 PM
Feb 9

My teacher started me with trying to do still lifes. Then something inspired me to paint my friend’s cats and dogs. I haven’t looked back since. I’d love to do portraits , but so far only one or two have come out good and those required extensive feedback from my teacher. On the other hand, my dogs and cats come much easier and I only get one or two critiques from my teacher to finish them off. Here is my latest. I really struggle if my reference photo isn’t really good.

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LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
13. Wow, OMG, this is incredibly good! Oh I wish I could paint this well! Wow wow wow!
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 06:57 PM
Feb 9

People must be ecstatic when you do portraits for them, this is absolutely stunning work, absolute perfection!

Oh I have to save a photo of this to post on my wall to give me something to aim for, to make me work harder to try to paint this well!

Do you have any YouTube tutorials posted, or do you teach classes?

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
20. You do beautiful work, do not sell yourself short!
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 08:23 PM
Feb 9

I am still learning from a teacher. Having someone critique my painting and give suggestions is so valuable. After he points something out, I think duh, I should have seen that. Sincerely your work is excellent. I also remember a beautiful cat you did with pastels that was also wonderful! I posted a few more of my pet portraits below in reply to another comment 🙂

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
36. Thank you so so much for your kind words and encouragement! I won't give up! Your paintings are so
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 08:47 AM
Feb 10

Incredible, it makes me hope I might paint something wonderful like your paintings someday!

❤️❤️❤️

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
16. This is a lovely painting!
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 07:10 PM
Feb 9

The eyes and the fur are especially well done. Fur is challenging. Very nice! If you've got more I'd like to see them.

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
19. I believe you are the artist of a wonderful painting of a white cat on a carpet. I saved it for inspiration. Am I
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 08:20 PM
Feb 9

remembering correctly? Here are a few of my favorites 🙂

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Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
21. I love these! They're beautiful!
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 08:32 PM
Feb 9

Are you thinking of this one?



If so, thank you for the kind compliment!

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
24. Exactly! It motivated me and helped me with and textiles. I really struggled with that carpet the white dog
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 09:45 PM
Feb 9

is sitting on so I referred back to how loosely you painted your carpet.

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
52. I struggled with the carpet, too; tried to copy all the details - until
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 02:24 PM
Feb 10

my painting instructor told me to just sketch the pattern loosely; too much detail in backgrounds takes away from the subject, and everybody will think that's the way the carpet looks anyhow. I see that's exactly what you did in your dog painting. It totally works and it's advice I've been trying to follow ever since.

I also really like the lizard!

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
67. So funny, my teacher had to tell me to make the carpet very loose over and over.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:12 PM
Feb 14

I wiped it off and tried again several times before setting on the carpet. Thank you for your kind and encouraging words. What are you working on now?

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
44. Thank you. I get so attached that sometimes after finishing I keep them around a few weeks before giving them to their
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:30 PM
Feb 10

human.

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
45. My teacher says that one and the two cats on a soft background are his favorites.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:32 PM
Feb 10

I titled that one the dog who stole the grinch who stole Christmas. Though he didn’t really still the grinch and it is apparently his favorite toy year around.

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
25. Thank you! For that one I had an excellent photo to go on. My photo for the one on the left was fuzzier 😉
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 09:49 PM
Feb 9

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
4. Thank you so so much for the encouragement! I am thinking I might try to
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 06:33 PM
Feb 9

Do animal paintings and other portraits by using acrylics first to get the details easily and then maybe try a thin glaze of oil paint over the top for depth and richness.

It would be really fun to do portraits for people.

❤️😻

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
14. Me too, it looks so nice, but am struggling to get detail in oils and to control them. When
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 06:59 PM
Feb 9

I make a mistake in acrylics I can paint over the mistake without having to wait very long.

So I’m thinking, okay, I keep failing in oil painting portraits, maybe there is a way I can make it work for me by starting with acrylics.

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
46. On trick I do is once I get part the way done and I like where it's headed I spray it with retouch varnish.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:39 PM
Feb 10

There is a matte spray and a shiny spray. Then anything I do next if it doesn’t work I wipe it off with turpenoid. But I’ve certainly created a mushy mess by trying to do too much at once. Another trick I learned is to paint the first couple of layers very thinly with diluted paint so it dries faster and I don’t create a muddy mess in the beginning. The dog looking directly at you laying on the burgundy cushion is an example of doing all my layers thinly. That painting took very few days to complete and seemed to go very smoothly. I think I have a tendency to load too much paint on my brush so intentionally watering it down to go on lightly has worked for me.

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
54. I usually do a monochrome underpainting first - that way
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 02:40 PM
Feb 10

I can fix the shapes and proportions before adding color. Patience is needed for oils but I do prefer them to acrylics. I might try acrylics again though, just to deal with my impatience.

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
57. I had forgotten that approach. When I first started a very accomplished artist and university art professor
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 04:32 PM
Feb 10

told me of that technique. He used olive green and white to make various shades. It gave his paintings wonderful depth, I thought. Thanks for the tip!

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
58. That olive green underpainting is verdaccio - the technique of the old masters.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 04:36 PM
Feb 10

They used it mainly for skin tones so they don't get too pink (or orange!). I did a fake Caravaggio using that technique.

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
59. So good to know that, he was doing a portrait when he told me that!
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 04:40 PM
Feb 10

Are you an art historian? You certainly are knowledgeable!

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
60. Not at all! The guy I've been taking a painting class is, though.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 04:55 PM
Feb 10

He's really knowledgeable about old techniques and styles. We were assigned to copy a detail of an old painting using those techniques, as much as possible. It took forever to finish but it was an interesting exercise.

AbnerBunny

(1,451 posts)
5. Just lovely!
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 06:36 PM
Feb 9

I especially love the title since those of us with pets know the “Approaching Horror” is a moth or some other innocuous threat 🤗

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
6. Thank you so so much ❤️ now I feel this is good enough to give to my husband, he wanted a painting of
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 06:40 PM
Feb 9

Our Mr. Bobo, as Bobo is 13 now and may not be with us much longer.

Thanks for the kind words!

And yes LOL I think he was looking at a light reflection on the ceiling cast from my iPhone 😻🤣

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
11. Thank you so much! I thought it would make a unique kind of portrait...thank you for looking and commenting! ❤️
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 06:49 PM
Feb 9

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
12. Thank you so so much! ❤️
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 06:54 PM
Feb 9

He was lying on my arm as I was lying in bed so I had a different perspective than normal for the photo.

It was fun to do.

I tried to do two portraits in oils and failed at both of them and I was literally in tears with frustration, and decided, well, let’s try acrylics…

If I would have known I would like the resulting painting I would have prepared the canvas with layers of gesso sanded to make a smoother canvas.

But I thought at the time, oh, this will just be another failed painting, why bother with preparing a smoother canvas?

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
15. I have also discovered that preparing the canvas makes a huge difference.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 07:07 PM
Feb 9

Now I apply a couple of layers of acrylic gesso to smooth out the surface. You don't want it completely smooth - I tried a wood panel once and hated it because the paint didn't stick where I wanted it but just smeared and slid away. Personally, I don't care much for acrylics because they dry too fast and the colors look too opaque and bright to me, but that's just a matter of preference and taste. Also, if you get acrylic paint on something, including your skin, it just doesn't come off. What I like about oils is that you can get some subtle effects using layers of transparent pigments, called glazing, but the down side is that it takes so damn long to finish a painting using that technique because the painting has to dry between layers, which takes several days. But you can get the paint off your hands with thinner.

It seems like the acrylic paint is working well for you. You should do more of your cat ! You've done a good job portraying his fluffiness. I've done some cat paintings (and one dog) and found the fur a challenge.

GiqueCee

(628 posts)
18. Nice piece!
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 07:36 PM
Feb 9

You have an eye for detail. Try smooth-sanded gesso on masonite for a ground. The sharpness of close-up foreground hair and blades of grass will really jump when edges are not diffused by the weave of canvas.

On edit: You may already know this, but a small, long-haired brush they used to call a rigger (for painting rigging on sailing ships) is perfect for painting close-up hair, whiskers, and fur. And regarding previous comments about the brightness of acrylics, you can subdue brightness where you might not want it by the judicious and very light addition of neutral shades of grey or brown to the brighter colors, or a lighter glaze over a neutral underpainting. It took me a while to fine-tune that technique, but then, I've been at it professionally for nearly 60 years, so I'm starting to get the hang of it. My preferred medium is watercolor.

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
35. Wow, thank you so so much! 😍❤️ I really appreciate the kind words and advice,
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 08:27 AM
Feb 10

I’m really a newbie and have so much to learn, both in oils and acrylics. It’s kind of frustrating at this level because I feel I make nothing but mistakes.

Yeah, I should have put a few coats of gesso, sanding each layer, to smooth out this canvas panel. Normally I do, but I had just had a week of nothing but failed attempts at painting my cat in oils, and I felt this painting would surely be a failure as well. I was trying acrylics thinking, well at least I will be able to paint over my mistakes sooner since it dries faster. But I had no hope I would end up with a painting that was anything but garbage, so I thought, why bother putting effort into preparing the canvas if I’m just going to throw it out when it’s done?

I love painting on paper for oils actually. A bit cheaper, no gesso needed, and the finished paintings take up little storage space. I guess if I had one that I really liked, I could mount the paper onto wood or something to be able to hang it on the wall.

But I feel I need to learn and practice for a decade before I can expect to have paintings I really like.hain

Believe it or not, I did use a rigger brush for the whiskers. Either I didn’t dilute the paint enough to let it flow well or else I didn’t handle the brush properly, maybe used too much pressure on the brush. I really do have so much to learn, and need hundreds of hours of practice before I start to feel even the most basic low level competence.

I can see why most people give up on art if they do even try it, because at least for people like me, it feels like trying to climb the tallest mountain one tiny step at a time.

But I am really drawn to art for some reason, so I’m going to keep trying.

Thank you again so much!

Did you struggle when you first began doing art, like the first year?

Here are my attempts at oil painting my cat which literally left me in tears I was so frustrated.

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I haven’t thrown those away because I don’t want to waste the oil primed canvas boards, figured I would paint over this and keep trying to get it right but I feel I am just spinning my wheels with those oil paintings.



GiqueCee

(628 posts)
41. The first...
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 09:58 AM
Feb 10

... and hardest thing to learn is patience. Any endeavor requiring fine motor skills takes time. LOTS of time. Patience was not something that came naturally to me when I was young, that's for sure! I wanted to see it DONE! It's frustrating, I know, but trying for a masterpiece with every painting is self-defeating. Though, looking back on previous pieces, you'll realize that you learned something through making mistakes. You've got a good eye for color and composition, so that's a really good head start.

The Old Masters, and the new ones, compartmentalized the aspects they knew they had to learn and improve, so they did studies. LOTS of studies. sketches of hands – or paws – and studies of eyes, ears, and noses, the direction of hair growth, can all be incredibly valuable. And when you combine what you've learned from these little drawings, you'll find that, HEY! this ain't half bad!

Getting really good at this is hard; that's why so few people try it. But you're already pretty darned good, so hang in there. Don't succumb to frustration by demanding excellence of yourself that you haven't practiced enough to attain... yet. You'll get there, and doing studies will give you satisfaction in manageable mouthfuls, if you'll forgive a weird metaphor.

As soon as I figure out how, I'll post some of my work, though my catalog was severely diminished by a computer crash not long ago. Bad words were said that day, I'll tell ya what!

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
47. Excellent advice!
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:44 PM
Feb 10

I love the old Dutch masters’ still life paintings of tables with glass goblets, metal plates, Rich fabrics and food.

GiqueCee

(628 posts)
49. I like doing still lifes, too...
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 01:03 PM
Feb 10

... but I prefer to work in watercolor. I've worked in almost every medium but egg tempera; I'll leave that to the Wyeth clan.

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
50. I'm terrified of water color, it seems so unforgiving. I don't draw well, so I do a lot of hit and miss and adjust
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 01:49 PM
Feb 10

with painting until I get it right. What is your experience?

GiqueCee

(628 posts)
56. Well, I can draw...
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:15 PM
Feb 10

... and, having been a commercial artist for my entire career, my work is pretty representational. Commercial work doesn't really allow one the luxury of a hit-or-miss approach, 'cause the bean-counters are always looking over your shoulder, so I've learned to work as fast as drying paint will allow. Anyway, I sketch my subject matter to establish composition, then do a very light outline of the subject, blocking in background elements ever so faintly. Then I lay in base colors; again, very lightly. With watercolor, you have to work light to dark, unlike oils or acrylics, whose opacity allows a reverse order.
Depending on the subject and the client, I'll sometimes allow "happy accidents" to remain a part of the composition. They can lend an aire of vitality and spontaneity to the work. But I've also done blow-aparts of jet engine sub-assemblies with Rapidographs (a technical pen from before the advent of computers) that don't allow happy anythings, only meticulous precision.
Many of my pieces would be labeled "mixed media", which mortally offends the purists, but I don't worry about any of that. If a dash of colored pencil or a stroke of acrylic white achieves what I want, then I go for it. Phooey on the judgmental stiff-necks!
If you'll excuse me, I have to finish immortalizing a client's 12-year-old grandson at the controls of an excavator! I do have an eclectic client base. Oh, and I'm the art director for an animatronics company. Y'know, animated life-size T-Rexes and stuff. Keeps life interesting.

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
48. Here's something my teacher, a professional artist, does. Every so often he digs out an old painting he
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:48 PM
Feb 10

was dissatisfied with and works on it. He might not have touched it for a year or more. He says small changes can make a huge difference to the painting. I tried it recently and indeed just doing a few things I couldn’t see originally to do made a nice improvement

Ocelot II

(115,719 posts)
53. Some advice along those lines that I got from my teacher:
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 02:29 PM
Feb 10

Turn your painting or drawing upside down so you aren't distracted by the subject matter - just look at the shapes. Pick out 10-15 little spots that can be improved and fix those, then turn it right side up and look at it again and see if that worked. This is really helpful when working on a new project as well as going back to an old one (which I am about to do; I've got a few that I think kind of suck and I might try to improve them before I junk them altogether).

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
71. This is wonderful. The early, hazy sun shimmering on the water is masterful!
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:35 PM
Feb 14

Okay, since you mentioned series, you’ll have to show more!

MLAA

(17,296 posts)
69. We must have the same teacher haha.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:17 PM
Feb 14

Mine says that plus to look at in the mirror and see if anything pops out at you. And step away from it, take a break! He use to set the timer to remind me to take a break.

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