DRAFT proposal to amend our TOS in this group -

[TBF]

I would like to hear comments from the other hosts and regular contributing members of this group (when we finalize our thoughts I will pin up the edited version) -


Welcome to the Socialist Progressives Group. Posts in this group should generally be supportive of socialism and socialists. We are largely anti-capitalist and will not tolerate red-baiting. We welcome leftists of all persuasion as allowed per the admin's TOS. Democratic (ballot box) socialism, revolutionary socialism, Syndicalists and autonomists are all ok. Pure black flag (as opposed to red/black) anarchists who would rather organize with any anarchist than socialists, including anarcho-capitalists and libertarians, will not be welcome. If you don't know what kind of anarchist you are, cool, so long as you don't hijack and red-bait. This includes no "you're a dictator-lover" if you support the Russian Revolution. CPUSA members, please chime in.

Social Democrats are welcome with the explanation that if someone believes in "regulated" capitalism and social programs, they're a Keynesian, not a socialist. We welcome your questions as long as you're pleasant and don't red bait or shift the discussion away from socialism. You'll find many of us support Obama and his re-election given our two-party system, but this is not the forum to talk about the intricacies of elections - see the Politics forum for those conversations. We are more concerned with safe-guarding the working class gains we've made in this country thus far and encouraging the peaceful transition to socialism. Please no Trotsky or Stalin baiting, we've all seen it fracture groups and do not want to fight that battle again.

Addition 7/21/2014:

We've been in this group for a couple of years now and I am excited to see the growth in readership. Please be aware, however, that this is a protected group. We are still concerned about looking at issues through a working class lens. As capitalism has become a global force we are in solidarity with workers worldwide. Expect that we will discuss the effects of capitalism on the working class in all areas - whether it agrees with the view of the current administration or not. We reserve the right to temporarily ban members who are determined to contribute only because they feel the need to protect certain politicians or viewpoints. There are myriad other forums to do that but this is not one of them.

thanks!

[Lifelong Protester]

1. WI educator weighing in.

I say "yes".

[2banon]

3. I say yes, too and I also support Starry Messenger's amendment

if there's consensus..

[TBF]

4. I'll leave it up a few days

And let everyone weigh in.

[Starry Messenger]

2. This is looking great, thank you TBF.

A piece I'd like to add in for consideration:

"If you care to add a substantive and productive comment on OPs here, in the spirit of our SOP, that kind of contribution is welcomed. Throw-away comments from people who have never posted in here before are not really considered to add value to conversations."

Something like that, it needs word-smithing from the writers in here.

[socialist_n_TN]

6. You must have read the same drive-by snark as I did.....

The first sentence is OK. Maybe something like this for the second sentence (it's similar):

Throw-away comments from newcomers who haven't posted in here before, especially of the "snark" variety, are not welcome and will not be tolerated. Either contribute in a positive way or post somewhere else.

Too harsh?

[TBF]

8. We'll let others chime in too -

I love your version but I can be pretty terse at times myself. Although sometimes that is the only way to get through thick skulls.

[Starry Messenger]

9. It's probably my teacher-side--

I try to encourage people to bring us their productive A-game, show us a side of them that perhaps rarely gets space for expression.

[edgineered]

5. the SOP has been read,

and acknowledged.

[socialist_n_TN]

7. Yeah, I like the amendment.......

And Starry's addition too.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

10. Sounds good to me

+ Starry's amendment too.

[octoberlib]

11. Yes to all of it (including starry's amendment)