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Ptah

(33,044 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 10:56 PM Apr 2012

What does your trade/skillset require you to bring to the job?

My career expectations are that I will
possess and bring to the job approx 400 pounds
of specialized tools worth from $2,000 to $10,000.

What expectations are in your career?



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What does your trade/skillset require you to bring to the job? (Original Post) Ptah Apr 2012 OP
a hot iron and a sharp knife? Kali Apr 2012 #1
Ouch! ohiosmith Apr 2012 #5
And a hatchet for the poultry? Ptah Apr 2012 #23
pfft Kali Apr 2012 #26
Well... Chan790 Apr 2012 #2
Our own tools Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #3
Ouch.... AnneD Apr 2012 #12
What made it worse was I was just getting by as it was Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #14
Double ouch.... AnneD Apr 2012 #16
Not with THAT attitude... n/t leeroysphitz Apr 2012 #19
What a spiteful and ... AnneD Apr 2012 #41
Sigh. leeroysphitz Apr 2012 #42
Humor is intact... AnneD Apr 2012 #43
Always wondered how the affluent in upscale areas expect employees to live on low wages Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #31
Exactly my point.... AnneD Apr 2012 #40
Machinist? Ptah Apr 2012 #24
Yes Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #30
Hands, head, and a marginally functional body. HopeHoops Apr 2012 #4
A degree in psychology, I think! pink-o Apr 2012 #6
The ability to make Microsoft Access sing and dance jigs lastlib Apr 2012 #7
The ability to deal with people who lack the knowledge for the position they hold snooper2 Apr 2012 #8
A financial calculator and thick skin. bluesbassman Apr 2012 #9
A crystal ball, a copy of Illinois' Property Tax Tax Code, and a Real Estate Appraisal License. davsand Apr 2012 #10
Job requirments ... AnneD Apr 2012 #11
: ohiosmith Apr 2012 #13
I always thought Wire Paladin would have been a great screen name Brother Buzz Apr 2012 #20
Good one. ohiosmith Apr 2012 #21
A thick skin Lucy Goosey Apr 2012 #15
My brain and blabbing ability, much to their deep dismay RedCloud Apr 2012 #17
Calipers, laptop, and a willingness to make other people ideas work even when they don't. n/t leeroysphitz Apr 2012 #18
Headset, flashlight (per the FAA), uniform, a small set of manuals av8rdave Apr 2012 #22
Mostly the ability to out think dumb animals - and some muscle csziggy Apr 2012 #25
All of what you said... and patience. Infinite patience (csziggy's in the same biz as me) nt riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #27
Oh yes - lots of patience csziggy Apr 2012 #29
Around 4k in tools, materials to do the job, the ability to oneshooter Apr 2012 #28
I work at a call center ButterflyBlood Apr 2012 #32
The patience of a saint. Aristus Apr 2012 #33
I'm kind of in Ptah's trade Mopar151 Apr 2012 #34
You might appreciate this youtube I made a few years ago: Ptah Apr 2012 #36
What's the big flange type thing for? Looks like some component amerikat Apr 2012 #44
It's a component of an large scientific instrument - the ODI for the WIYN telescope Ptah Apr 2012 #53
Do you just love working on big projects that can change the world? amerikat Apr 2012 #54
A couple things guitar man Apr 2012 #35
a couple of these hobbit709 Apr 2012 #37
Reticence Burma Jones Apr 2012 #38
Mr. Brickbat is required to bring a watch. If he is asked to produce a watch and doesn't have one, Brickbat Apr 2012 #39
Is he a clock-setter? Like the kid in Hugo? femmocrat Apr 2012 #47
Your second guess is closer. Brickbat Apr 2012 #49
Hmm....I'm a stage director, which involves both solitary preparation Lucinda Apr 2012 #45
A strong constitution, a sense of humor, and a good pair of comfortable shoes. femmocrat Apr 2012 #46
Staying awake graywarrior Apr 2012 #48
Cool question, Here is what I am required to bring to my job. erinlough Apr 2012 #50
You teachers... davsand Apr 2012 #51
Very true erinlough Apr 2012 #52
The following abilities: Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #55

Kali

(55,026 posts)
26. pfft
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:41 PM
Apr 2012

can't seem to get far enough ahead in poultry numbers for that to be a problem, just happy to get a few eggs before the skunks and coyotes get them all!

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
2. Well...
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 12:26 AM
Apr 2012

let's see. Adventurer:

Condoms, Laptop, foreign-language dictionaries, lockpick set, passport, hiking boots, small-arms, ammunition, several pairs of socks and underwear, one pair of pants, one red shirt, cart around the bosses' kid and a small Indian boy. I also carry a pen and personal diary but they're not required.



(Yeah, I'm between opportunities.)

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
3. Our own tools
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:54 AM
Apr 2012

There is a minimum required tool list where I work and most have at least 4 to 5K worth of hand tools, some much more than that: Amassed over a long time of course.

I suffered a big setback in the 80's when my toolbox worth at least 2K was stolen and I had to start from scratch again.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
12. Ouch....
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:37 PM
Apr 2012

I feel your pain. Step dad required his own tools. He had anywhere from 4-10 k with him at any given time.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
14. What made it worse was I was just getting by as it was
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:46 PM
Apr 2012

I was working in a high cost of living area and living not much beyond paycheck to paycheck. I wasn't the only one who got his tools stolen though, a few others did as well at the same time. We suspected who did it but couldn't prove it.

Hope he's six feet under now due to natural causes.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
16. Double ouch....
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 04:36 PM
Apr 2012

Worked as a Nurse in those high cost of living areas. I couldn't afford to own a house. I eventually had to go where the cost of living was less. That is one of the reasons why areas are short of Nurses. We can't live on sunshine and pay our bill with rainbows.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
41. What a spiteful and ...
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 09:10 AM
Apr 2012

ignorant thing to say. I am disappointed in YOUR attitude.

I am a professional Nurse and have to work hard to maintain my license. I have to take courses and pay for them out of my own pocket for the most part. I would frequently miss holidays and weekends with my daughter (and be out the cost of a sitter to boot) to do my 'duty'. At the time I lived in this 'resort' area, I was a single working mom and yet they could not see fit to pay me a decent wage. I had to work another job just to meet the basics-and I am talking a no frills bare bone budget.

When I became a Nurse, I do not remember taking a vow of poverty and as an educated professional in a demanding job that requires continual education and personal sacrifice in my personal life, I think that my attitude is very much in line with what is truly fair. I move to an area with a lower cost of living, have been able to save for a house and provide for an education for my child. I refuse to sacrifice my life or my daughter's on the alter of service, especially for people that are wealthy enough to pay decently. To put in terms that the 1% can understand, it is free market. I am free to be compensated for my skill or donate them as I see fit.

 

leeroysphitz

(10,462 posts)
42. Sigh.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:24 PM
Apr 2012

This place really has lost it's charm.

My wife is an RN as well but I don't recal her having to relinquish her sense of humor in order to get her license.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
43. Humor is intact...
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:40 PM
Apr 2012

but I didn't see it in your post. Maybe a sarcasm smilie might due.

As an RN I get peeved at folks that think that becoming an RN is like becoming a nun complete with the vow of poverty, chastity, and obedience. I miss having to move off the mountain because those wealthy folk were too cheap to pay decent salaries.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
31. Always wondered how the affluent in upscale areas expect employees to live on low wages
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:52 AM
Apr 2012

Can't have a workable economy if everybody thinks everybody else should make less so that their dollar goes further.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
40. Exactly my point....
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:44 AM
Apr 2012

if I book a plane ticket-they do not give me a discount because I live in a low income level. Everything cost more because it was shipped in. We had a lot of folks that owned trophy homes and were there maybe 2 to 4 weeks of the year and expected full services and yet bitched about the taxes (well I pay the full yearly amount and I live there just a month). They drove the real estate prices up so much that many locals could not afford to buy, even if they were professional-like this Nurse that was also a single mom.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
30. Yes
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:46 AM
Apr 2012

Aircraft mechanic. Thankfully my other co-workers helped me out with their tools till I got enough to be functional again.

pink-o

(4,056 posts)
6. A degree in psychology, I think!
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:47 AM
Apr 2012

Airports make humans crazy. It's something in the air that triggers the amygdala, I'm convinced.

Not that I HAVE a degree in psychology: I went to the School of Lazy, unable-to-commit Slackers, class of 1979. But mom was a psych nurse, and I've learned more than I ever wanted to know about the emotional issues of my species! I'm an expert by default: and I gotta bring that Skill Set to my job every day!

davsand

(13,421 posts)
10. A crystal ball, a copy of Illinois' Property Tax Tax Code, and a Real Estate Appraisal License.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:15 PM
Apr 2012

A bottle of some sort of central nervous system depressant--pill or liquid forms can both work--would be a help but is not a requirement.



Laura

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
11. Job requirments ...
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:33 PM
Apr 2012

Out side of a degree and license: the bladder capacity of a Winnebago water tank, the patience of Job, the kindness of Mother Theresa, the ability to work like a Hebrew slave without a break for food/water, eight arms so I can do multiple tasks at once, the ability to be as fresh and alert at my 12th hour as my first.

They taught me about meds and body systems in school, but you have to have engineering skills to fix crappily designed pump system and other mechanical technology that breaks down. I could get a degree in jerry rigging. I have become so proficient-I carry my own duct tape. I can get a minor in scrounging hard to get supplies.

I didn't know that degree in Nursing also meant a degree in Microbiology, Virology, Psychology, Social Work, Public Speaking, Accounting, Business Administration, Hospitality Management, and Theology.

The job can be a tall order and frankly, after being in the field as long as I have, I will be happy to hang up my crocs. It has been good to me, but if I knew then what I know now, I would have chosen a different path. I could have done just about anything else successfully, but at the time, there were few paths fully open to women.

Brother Buzz

(36,478 posts)
20. I always thought Wire Paladin would have been a great screen name
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 06:13 PM
Apr 2012

Confuse a few and a wink and nod to those that know.

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
15. A thick skin
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:47 PM
Apr 2012

I do procurement monitoring and auditing for the federal government; pretty much everyone I have to talk to hates me in advance because of my job title.

av8rdave

(10,573 posts)
22. Headset, flashlight (per the FAA), uniform, a small set of manuals
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 09:49 PM
Apr 2012

We used to have to carry about 60 pounds of manuals and charts, but now the airline maintains them on the aircraft.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
25. Mostly the ability to out think dumb animals - and some muscle
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:37 PM
Apr 2012

Not that I can do it anymore, but handling horses takes a good amount of psychology, understanding the animals and how they think. It also takes enough muscle to handle them, though since even a big man can't outmuscle a thousand to fifteen hundred pound horse, you have to know how to leverage that muscle - literally.

Then there are the halters, bridles, saddles, ropes, brushes, etc. to get a horse ready to ride. Buckets for feed & water, and shovels and forks for cleaning their stalls. Hammers, fence stretchers, post hole diggers, post driver, etc. for maintaining barns & fence. Tractors, bush hog, harrow, drags, chain saw, spreader, etc. for maintaining the pasture.

That's just the basics - not counting if you are taking horses to shows, or running a barn where you will be boarding other people's horses, or giving your own shows, or training for specific events such as jumping, working or roping cattle, etc.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
28. Around 4k in tools, materials to do the job, the ability to
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:55 PM
Apr 2012

read the homeowners mind, the mindset to do the job right( despite the homeowners ideas), about 1 mile of extension cords, generator for when there is no power available, the knowledge to bid the job tight, but not too tight, the ability to use my tools without injuring myself or others, a truck and trailer to carry all, and 36 hours in a day to accomplish the tasks set out for 12.
I am a independent contractor, I bid my own jobs and take the profit, or loss. The loss of my tools or truck would put me out of business for 2-6 weeks, and destroy my company.

Oneshooter

Aristus

(66,478 posts)
33. The patience of a saint.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:59 AM
Apr 2012

In having to explain for the millionth time the following:

"No, 99.1F is not a fever."

"Yes, tramadol is a narcotic."

"You took your first dose 3 hours ago. You have to give it some time to work."

Mopar151

(10,003 posts)
34. I'm kind of in Ptah's trade
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 01:45 AM
Apr 2012

So there's the "work" toolbox - machinist tools, plus wrenches, sockets, and the like. A surface plate & digital height guage.
Then there's a fairly full set of tools from my Mr. Goodwrench days, that travel with the race car. And some general "home shop" tools, along with special tools for engine building, chassis setup and metal fabrication, plus shop equipment. And they all kind of float between work, home, the races, and "side jobs".

amerikat

(4,910 posts)
44. What's the big flange type thing for? Looks like some component
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 09:23 PM
Apr 2012

for chemical or petroleum processing equipment. Also looks like Stainless by the speeds and feeds.

amerikat

(4,910 posts)
54. Do you just love working on big projects that can change the world?
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 10:43 PM
Apr 2012

I'm more than happy to be a footnote in the grand theme of things.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
39. Mr. Brickbat is required to bring a watch. If he is asked to produce a watch and doesn't have one,
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:55 AM
Apr 2012

he can be fired instantly. I've talked before about what he does, but maybe if you don't know you can try to guess with that information.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
45. Hmm....I'm a stage director, which involves both solitary preparation
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 09:52 PM
Apr 2012

as well as collaborative work with others.

So my technical skillset consists of my knowledge of and experience with all aspects of theatre, and the tools involved in mounting a production. Collaboration is much easier if you know the technicals tools used by the artists you are collaborating with... and the ability TO collaborate artistically, is a pretty necessary skill too!

Beyond that, it's a little harder to pinpoint specific skills involved in the artistic exploration of the script and rehearsal process. You pretty much bring your entire being into the process.

erinlough

(2,176 posts)
50. Cool question, Here is what I am required to bring to my job.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 10:47 PM
Apr 2012

Knowledge of basic developmental psychology, learning theories past and present, Crucial developmental stages and basic needs.

Knowledge of Federal and State level educational requirements (currently Common Core curriculum standards). Federal and State Laws governing the legal execution of my job.

Social work experience and knowledge of parental rights and mandatory reporting laws

Highly Qualified standards, jargon, certification.

Motivational techniques and Best Practice backed up by research

Data analysis, extrapolation of data and creating charts and graphs depicting data over time.

Goal setting, metacognitive awareness techniques, knowledge of various disabilities; ASD, LD, EI, CI etc.

Communication techniques including active listening and dealing with sensitive topics with grieving parents and sometimes children. Behavioral psychology and behavior control and management.

Basic health and wellness knowledge and ways to maintain student mental and physical health.

Testing techniques, questioning techniques, test construction and measuring student growth.

Computer use, repair, delivery of curriculum through latest technologies.

Knowledge of “bullying” issues and observation of student behavior to recognize bullying plus a plan for dealing with bullying when discovered.

Grading strategies to maintain a current picture of formative and summative data to show student performance in all areas of instruction delivered.

I love my job and wouldn’t be happy doing less. It is amazing to write it all down. These topics are what I work on daily while teaching Special Education.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
51. You teachers...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:32 AM
Apr 2012

I'll not go any further--lest I peeve anyone by not using a sarcasm smiley.


Takes a very special person to teach special ed. During my pre-teaching hours I spent some time in the special ed classrooms. Little shits scammed me ALL the time.




Laura

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
55. The following abilities:
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 11:17 PM
Apr 2012

1. Reading Japanese, referring to a dictionary only occasionally
2. Writing clear English in the tone appropriate to the document being translated
3. Background knowledge in a lot of fields and/or the ability to learn new fields quickly
4. Knowledge of all the MS Word programs
5. Understanding of Japanese culture, so as to be able to read between the lines and/or understand places, social roles, and situations being described in the document

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