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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsCalling a highway (The) 101 for example, does anyone other than Californians do that? Just curious.
ashling
(25,771 posts)State Highway 123 " The One Two Three'
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)Our Washington (the state ) family took a trip to LA a few years ago. We TOTALLY noticed this. I've never heard it anywhere else!
politicat
(9,808 posts)I mostly grew up in Arizona, where it's the 10, the 60, the 101 and the 202. I've been in Colorado for 20 years, and the biggies are 25, 287, 36, and E470.
But I've driven in Chicago and on the east coast, and they tend to use names for roads. It may have to do with those roads existing or predating the Interstate highway system, or those roads being hooked into the system during development, while western states urban areas developed in tandem with the state and interstate highway systems.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)I've lived in five states, and in none of them was a numbered highway preceded with the definite article "the." In California, though, you have to do it (maybe in other states, too, I dunno).
Here, in the Chicago area, highways have both numbers and expressway names. So it's I-90, or "the Kennedy"; or I-9094, "the Dan Ryan"; or I-94, "the Edens"; or 290, "the Eisenhower" (also, the "Ike" ; or 55, or "the Stevenson." But you would never say "the 90."
3catwoman3
(24,032 posts)...Chicago area, and do not spend much time on the tollways, the traffic reports are very confusing. The radio and television reporters always use the names, but the green-and-white highway signs and the maps use the numbers.
tirebiter
(2,539 posts)101 is 101. Claro?
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Californians do call it "THE 101",
"THE 10",
"THE 5", etc.
doc03
(35,363 posts)I 70, I 77, 250, 40 never heard anyone but Californians say (The 101).
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)even if it is 6 lanes.
and highways major roads are "the 2 lane"
so directions would be..." ya git on the 4 lane to Montgomery" accompanied with a wave of the hand/arm in a vague direction.
But, I have also heard "I-10" ( which is major southern freeway from coast to coast)
and rarely heard "I-65" (which is only N/S freeway.)
citood
(550 posts)I-20 Was called "I-20"
I-459 was "459"
Highway 280 was "280"
Sometimes the olf timers called the interstates "gray slab"
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)grey slab is marvelously appropriate.
different groups of people here in the South have different descriptive words, which is interesting.
3catwoman3
(24,032 posts)...habit of calling all soft drinks "a coke," regardless of flavor or brand?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)underpants
(182,870 posts)Floyd R. Turbo
(26,570 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:20 PM - Edit history (1)
It's my favorite road of all time. EVER.
I know it like the back of my hand and I've camped/fished every accessible spot in Washington along the way.
Its most North Western point is at Port Townsend, WA., then it heads either South down Hood Canal or West around the Olympic Peninsula, (through the rain forest) and then South down the Pacific Ocean Coast.
101 on the Oregon Coast is spectacular beyond words (and Northern California too). Damn, I wish I was there right now.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)My home state, and marvelously easy to travel around in for many many years. 101 is ...or was...little known highway, at least before or after tourist season.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)Yes, I used THE for all the freeways. THE 405, 134, 101, 10, 5, 2.
Thirties Child
(543 posts)brush
(53,840 posts)WilmywoodNCparalegal
(2,654 posts)As both a Las Vegas resident and Bay Area resident living halfway between San Francisco and San Jose, I do call it 'the 101'
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I-80, I-70, etc. Other roads are called "Route" as in Route 220.
This is western PA, not sure about central and eastern.
Freddie
(9,273 posts)Philly and Lehigh Valley it's just 95, 78, 22, 309, etc. PA turnpike is "The Turnpike". Then there's the Blue Route (476 connecting many Philly burbs) so-called because it took literally decades for the road to finally be opened due to many NIMBY issues in the many communities it passed through. It was the blue road on the maps with no number or name.
Drifter
(4,751 posts)Doesn't take long in a traffic report to realize this.
To me it just doesn't sound right.
Cheers
Drifter
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,829 posts)There's 94, 494, 694, 35E, 35W. The only "the" road is Highway 62, usually called The Crosstown.
Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)will figure it out and start saying it correctly.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,591 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 8, 2017, 02:47 PM - Edit history (2)
Fred Armisen hammered away at this tendency.
The Californians (Fred Armisen, Bill Hader, Kristen Wiig, Laraine Newman, Kenan Thompson, Betty White, Taylor Swift) reunite and get some surprising news about their pool boy Craig (Bradley Cooper). Plus, David Spade and Cecily Strong bring the sketch to an abrupt end.
Donkees
(31,451 posts)Excerpt:
So how did we get from the Hollywood Freeway to the 101? Masters explains:
In 1964, the state simplified its highway numbering system, ensuring that, with few exceptions, each freeway would bear only one route number. Around the same time, a flurry of new construction added unfamiliar freeway names to the region's road maps. Drivers found it easier to learn new numbers like the 605 or the 91 rather than new names like the San Gabriel River Freeway or the Redondo Beach Freeway.
Though locals largely adopted numbers over names by the 1970s, the the stuck around. And plenty of the regions old-timers can still be heard explaining their commutes along the Harbor Freeway or the Santa Monica Freeway, even though Caltrans has long stopped including those names on signage.
As for other Western states, some (Arizona and Nevada, for example) saw bursts of locally funded highway construction in the early 20th century, and similarly named their roads for local places. That shift, plus a steady migration of Californians, might be why you hear locals throughout the West who just cant shake the the.
https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2015/11/why-west-coast-drivers-add-the-to-their-freeway-numbers/415527/
doc03
(35,363 posts)Steubenville Pike before they were numbered. We call them 40, 2, 250 and 22. or maybe Route 40, 2, 250 or 22. We don't use (The).
Interesting though how different areas have local customs and accents. Like in Ohio if you go a couple miles south of I-70 people have
have a southern accent and up on the lake in Cleveland they have a different accent than the middle of the state. In this area 50 miles west of Pittsburgh PA we have Pittsburgh speak.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Some of the reporters still insist on using terms like "The Golden State freeway" or "The Hollywood freeway"; I honestly don't have a clue what those are most of the time.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)I don't know freeways - here we have I-10 as the only limited access highway.
And "exit number?" The exits are 90 East, Thomasville Road, North Monroe and 90 West. Yeah, there might be numbers on the exit, but that's not how anyone here designates them. Besides, I seldom take the interstate or even drive much on the highways so I'm not that familiar with them anyway.
yellowdogintexas
(22,270 posts)Easier to see from a distance.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)At least the way they are numbered around here - by the mileage number. That way it is easy to know how much farther your exit is when you are on a stretch with few signs.
But I still want to know the name for the exit.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)the freeways were "The San Diego Freeway", "The Golden State Freeway", "The Hollywood Freeway", "The Harbor Freeway", "The Ventura Freeway", et.c. Maybe people just hung onto the "the" used with all of those.
Here in the I5 corridor in Oregon, it's just "I5". I have, however, heard the east-west freeway through southern Eugene-Springfield referred to as "The 126", or, more often, "McKenzie Highway". The east-west freeway at the north end of town is always "The Beltline" and never "569".
doc03
(35,363 posts)Jonhy Carson joke.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)Warpy
(111,332 posts)going before it, like "Are you taking 95 or 301 down to Florida?"
Here in the southwest, it's "I-25" or "I-40," again without the "the."
DFW
(54,436 posts)"The Parking Lot."
doc03
(35,363 posts)visited my aunt and uncle in Woodbridge. It was like a 1 1/2 to 2 hour drive stop and go after work in Arlington to get to
Woodbridge. I think they used to call I 95 Shirly Highway.
DFW
(54,436 posts)That was a loooong time ago.
yellowdogintexas
(22,270 posts)Here, it is the Interstate; in Connecticutt any interstate or major limited access road is "the highway"
roamer65
(36,747 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)They number traffic lanes, from left to right. This is useful in descriptions.