Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 11:29 AM Apr 2017

Is there a scientific reason for the following.

I'm not sure if my observation was spot on, but I have noticed when working with water, that small particles that are floating at the top tend to cling to the sides of the container. If you watch, they speed up the closer they get to the edge. Almost like there is a magnetic pull.

Anyone else notice that?

13 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Is there a scientific reason for the following. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 OP
Viscosity? SticksnStones Apr 2017 #1
I read the definition, but can't see how it would apply here, Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #6
gotta have something to do with the surface tension of water. unblock Apr 2017 #2
I like the theory. Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #4
I think... CincyDem Apr 2017 #3
Thank you. Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #5
Meniscus: I think the movement you're seeing in the particles is fluid being drawn into the meniscus CincyDem Apr 2017 #7
Capillary action, maybe? The H2O is "attracted" to the container... VOX Apr 2017 #8
Sounds like the meniscus explanation is getting traction. Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #10
Perhaps you should consider a water filter. MGKrebs Apr 2017 #9
Good one. Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #12
It's part of what's called the 'Cheerio Effect' petronius Apr 2017 #11
Since the term "miniscus" has come up a third time, Baitball Blogger Apr 2017 #13

unblock

(52,243 posts)
2. gotta have something to do with the surface tension of water.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 11:39 AM
Apr 2017

neighboring water molecules create hydrogen bonds with each other, which is why water tries to clump in drops rather than lay flat.

so i'd guess the surface is slightly raised in the middle of the container and lower at the ends, so things floating on the surface are just responding to gravity?

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
3. I think...
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 11:44 AM
Apr 2017


Surface tension of the water relative to the surface energy of the container. I'm not sure but I'll bet that if you use different containers, the phenomenon looks different. In some cases, it could go as far as being repellant, vs. the attraction you're seeing.

It is like magnetic pull but at the molecular level.

IMHO - that's what I get for reading popular science (I think).

VOX

(22,976 posts)
8. Capillary action, maybe? The H2O is "attracted" to the container...
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:28 PM
Apr 2017
https://water.usgs.gov/edu/capillaryaction.html
"Capillary action occurs because water is sticky, thanks to the forces of cohesion (water molecules like to stay close together) and adhesion (water molecules are attracted and stick to other substances). Adhesion of water to the walls of a vessel will cause an upward force on the liquid at the edges and result in a meniscus which turns upward. The surface tension acts to hold the surface intact. Capillary action occurs when the adhesion to the walls is stronger than the cohesive forces between the liquid molecules."

petronius

(26,602 posts)
11. It's part of what's called the 'Cheerio Effect'
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 09:01 PM
Apr 2017

Where the meniscus curves upward along the edge (the liquid molecules are attracted to the container more strongly than to each other), the buoyant particles will float to the highest point of the liquid, and thus cling to the edge. If the meniscus curves downward (the liquid molecules attracted to each other more than to the container) then the buoyant particles will float toward the higher liquid in the center. According to my google-fu, anyway...

Latest Discussions»The DU Lounge»Is there a scientific rea...