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I love Germany and Germans in general. I was born there and hope to live there again someday. Still, some of these are hilarious, especially because of the amusing exaggerations of the "German"!
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)I am a native* German speaker. My first wife always said it sounded like I was cursing someone when I spoke to my remaining brother.
Yiddish (which is really a pigeon language of German and Hebrew) somehow takes German and makes it sound much softer, IMHO. Ladino (Hebrew and Spanish) is, however, far more beautiful.
Speaking English, I sound like Henry Kissenger.
* Technically I was born in Poland, but it was a border town that was ethnically German, which included us Jewish folk.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)"Schrei nach Liebe" (scream for love)
An Anti-Nazi-song by the band "Die Ärzte", a legendary punk-band and self-proclaimed (and quite possibly actually) "best band in the world".
Please note that the refrain ends with "Arschloch!" (Asshole!). It is custom to sing along and to shout "asshole" as loud as you can.
"Die Banane" (the banana)
A kinda-love-song by "Die Ärzte", recorded during an MTV Unplugged session. The song is about a date gone wrong when she starts eating a banana.
"Mit Haut und Haar" (with skin and hair, a metaphor for "completely"
An album by the band "Jennifer Rostock".
I can recommend "Lügen haben schöne Beine" (lies have pretty legs), a song about self-deception. And "Mach dich aus dem Staub" (a complicated metaphor for "running away from something" , a song about breaking out of your life if it chokes you.
FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)You have inspired me to search out German bands and videos:
Rammstein "du hast"
https://g.co/kgs/rPKybR
http://lyricstranslate.com/en/du-hast-du-hast.html
Rammstein-"Ohne Dich"
DFW
(54,436 posts)Swedish is probably THE easiest language for an English mother tongue person to learn due to the many similarities and its simple grammar. German retains a lot of older and arcane grammar forms, along with article declension. It is not a practical language to learn, or else it would be the first choice of every school-age kid in the States
That having been said, it does have a certain logic to it, and can easily be gotten used to. A plus is the large number of friendly natives, one of whom was so beautiful she took my breath away the moment I laid eyes on her, and nearsighted enough not to blow me off the moment I expressed some (understatement of the year) interest.
My wife and I have always spoken German with each other since we met (now almost 43 years ago), and our children are fully bi-lingual, since we have always spoken to them in our own respective languages since they were born. My wife comes from an area of Germany where standard ("high" German is not the first language of most of the locals, and so they speak German with a particular clarity and precision.
3catwoman3
(24,032 posts)...which nouns are masculine, feminine and neutral is completely random. (Such is my recollection from the last time I studied German, in 1970.)
Why is the word for dress (der rock) a masculine noun? And why isn't table (die tafel) neutral?
DFW
(54,436 posts)Careful about "false friends," too. "Tafel" only means "table" in the context of "roundtable," or "Time table." A physical table where you sit down to eat in "der Tisch." But a leg of that table is "das Bein."
Words ending in "-heit," "-keit," and "-ung" are always feminine, and diminutives ("-lein," "-chen" are always neuter.
3catwoman3
(24,032 posts)...is masculine.
Is bra feminine? Never learned that one.
DFW
(54,436 posts)"Bay Hah" is the correct pronunciation. "Brustenhalter," or Breast Holder" is the full word. Europeans LOVE their abbreviations. Since a holder ("Halter" is masculine, and the word at the end of a combined word is the one that determines the gender, the word for bra is indeed masculine. Although, come to think of it, being a male of the species, I do see a certain logic in a breast holder being male
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)It depends on how much you practice. Learning English is easier, because 99% of the internet is english and you read it every day.
And the most important thing: Learning by doing. Not simply reading stuff in a foreign language but actually writing and speaking. Because the hardest part is coming up with the necessary vocabulary right here and right now.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)One is conjugation of verbs - or, actually, the lack of same.
In English we have eight forms of the verb "to be" - is, am, are, was, were, be, being, been. In German, the word "sind" covers all eight.
The other is compound words. You get to make up your own! For instance, if you needed to write about how the person who's currently leaving bloody footprints all over the White House is trying to destroy everything we hold dear, and for some reason you couldn't remember what his name is, you could just write "Kleinhandeorangenschwanzsauger" and everyone would know exactly who you were talking about. (But "schwanzlos Scheißestuck" would also work.)
Did I happen to mention that German has THE BEST obscenities? They're fantastic obscenities. Almost Trumplike in their greatness. Let me tell you, people: I know obscenities and German obscenities are the best obscenities you can buy.
FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)But looking forward to getting started. I'm sure I'll have endless questions.
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FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)Still not sure if they were real words!
OldEurope
(1,273 posts)And not funny at all.
That "German" guy is performing his most angry pronounciation. Every word sounds like a cuss. Who pronounces "butterfly" like a cuss? We don't, in German. Also, we do not sound like Nazis all the time, but that guy does - full of hatred. If you really liked the German language: how can you find this amusing?
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)It's just a slight exaggeration for comic effect, a teasing jab among friends. If you can't laugh at yourself you're taking life too seriously.
FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)OldEurope
(1,273 posts)when we slightly exaggerate about all Americans beeing hypocrites or illiterate or voting for Trump. Very funny.
No, we do not feel that is a teasing jab among friends. Because we, in contrast to many other nations, are aware of what we did. We cannot consider Nazis and their language as a subject of jokes. So we as nowadays Germans do not want to be settled with that hate speech.
And then: Noone speaks like that guy, believe me!
FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)...who also idolizes the authoritarianism of people like Hitler, Trump, etc.
He also makes English sound hateful!
Tikki
(14,559 posts)to keep it going and not all of it turn into a pop mess.
What we call rock music would have died out long ago if it wasn't for the
infusion of music styles from German bands.
The whole German Art Scene is amazing...and they speak German and English there.
Tikki
FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)It is purposefully exaggerated. If you watched the entire video, you would see that the other nationalities represented, including the American, were ridiculous parodies of the average person from those countries.
I was born there-- I have six children, all of whom have substantial German heritage.
One of my daughters is moving there next year to study, and my son. Maxwell*, intends to follow her the next year.
*(Although originally believed to be Scottish in origin, the name Maxwell is in fact bastardised German. The name dates back to the 10th century. A local lord of Eil near Koln was ousted by his people and recieving no help from his leige lord he fled to England. On which was promised in return for calming a local war he would recieve the land which would now be Dumfries and Galloway. In succeeding in their task they were justly rewarded with he land as a feif. Wanting to localise themselves they took the name eil of where they were from and instead what would be used to day as in von they toook sons of or son of Mac. And so from it is Gealic Mac Eill.
-- Anonymous User 1/13/2006)
I truly meant no malice to anybody, not Germans, not Italians, not Japanese, not French, not even Americans.
I believe I even stated in the opening post: "Still, some of these are hilarious, especially because pf the amusing exaggerations of the "German"!
If you want to criticize people for being mean, maybe start with the very few people around here who seem to at times enjoy tearing fellow DU members down.
OldEurope
(1,273 posts)FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)As I said, I have German family members and friends, and any of them who have seen this have thought it was funny.
You have the right to not find it funny.
I have German friends who actually like the stereotype of the hard-drinking intense German.
Just remember that the most beautiful music, classical, opera, was written by Mozart, in German.
DFW
(54,436 posts)A Massachusetts woman who settled in Germany and has a very successful show biz career here with her touring cabaret show pointing out the funny aspects of an American trying to adjust to life in Germany.
ElkeH
(105 posts)I am originally from Germany. People have sometimes asked me what I think about the German language, and while I like it in general I also think it can be harsh sounding. I have used the butterfly example myself; it is a delicate insect and you can say "butterfly" very softly in English, but there is always some harshness to "Schmetterling." Maybe it is also because "schmetter" makes me think of "zerschmettern," to bash something.
FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)...the scene where there is a discussion about what language Mozart should write his opera in? Of course the Italians thought it should be in Italian, but Emperor Joseph gave Mozart the go-ahead to write the opera in German. Who knows if this is true or not, but the Italians' argument was that German was too harsh a language for opera. Somehow Mozart made it work.
My Mom used a few choice German epithets towards my dad, our dogs, and her children when I was growing up that I would love to learn the meaning of, now that I can handle it I think she might have made them up, because I've never heard them any where else!
IcyPeas
(21,901 posts)FrankfurtCat
(1,213 posts)3catwoman3
(24,032 posts)...funny! Ausgezeichnet (I think - sp?).
braddy
(3,585 posts)that they talked like this video.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)it sounds like a romance language.