When did people start pre-planning? We used to just plan.

[raccoon]

Is there post-planning now too?

Actually, I wish people would quit saying pre-planning.

[Solly Mack]

1. I'm considering plans to put forth a plan to plan out how to answer your question.

After the plan to plan a plan has been formalized, I plan on setting a date to plan out the plan for optimizing the best plan to form a plan that will explain my plan to answer your question.

[mythology]

2. I once had not only a pre-planning meeting

but actually a pre-pre-planning meeting and a post-meeting review for a meeting that was 30 minutes long. We spent 90 minutes in pre and post-planning meetings for a 30 minute meeting. I was unimpressed especially as it was somebody coming in who didn't know what the plan was, how the process had been running and didn't understand how work actually happened. He did however have a lot of nifty sounding vernacular about stakeholders, providing visibility, making things actionable and how to maximize the value we could bring to the table that mostly reminded me of why I generally dislike MBAs.

[Phentex]

3. Teachers have pre planned and post planned for a long time...

it's built into the school calendar. Then they have to plan lesson plans all the weeks in between.

[Glassunion]

4. Obviously you've never been down south.

You ever get ready to get ready? Down south we called it "Fixin' to get ready".

[RobinA]

7. I'm From

smack in the middle of the eastern megalopolis and have a family member who moved to Atlanta. Visited him a couple times and this exact thing drove me nuts. Specifically, fixin' to decide where to go to dinner. Friends to go out with show up at the house. Hours turn into more hours and we haven't left the house. Everyone just sitting around shooting the breeze. Little to no discussion on the subject at hand. Aaarrgghhh. We could be home by now, well fed and happy, but NO, still getting ready to start deciding where to go. Every. single. time. I wish I could do this comfortably, I really do. But I'm not sure it's even possible.

[mainer]

8. Haha. Spoken like a northerner

I'm like you. Walk fast, talk fast, decide fast. Drives me crazy when I get behind a poky driver.

Gotta learn to slow down like a southerner.

[raccoon]

13. LOL. Just all my life. I've been "fixin' to get ready" from time to time. nt

[Tom Kitten]

5. I agree.

Your clarion call is like an advance warning and is of noteworthy importance. "Pre-Planning" and "Post-Planning" are nothing if not a couple of twin component parts connected together within a nebulous cloud of confused obfuscation. People do not understand the basic fundamentals anymore, if at all. Literary readers understand and see this; they nod their heads in agreement. We are witnessing with our own eyes the end result of terminal nomenclature.

[jmowreader]

6. You should try re-pre-planning

When I was in 10th Mountain I got sent to Division headquarters to help pre-plan a training exercise for one of our brigades.

We planned this in the division conference room...there's enough brass to start a Pier 1 Imports store, and me in there.

At 8 am: "we're going to Korea for a month to practice air assault ops. We can have any one of these five training areas. Sergeant, you've been to Korea. Which one do you want to use?" We come up with a nice clean month-long brigade-level FTX.

At 9 am: "it's only two weeks. Redo your initial plan to reflect."

At 10 am: "We can't get enough planes to get us to Korea. We can do Hohenfels (a maneuver area in Germany)."

11 am: "Germany's out. Plan to go to Fort Bragg. And we can't do air assault ops, but we can do ground maneuvers."

Noon: "After you get back from lunch start working out a deployment on base."

2 pm: "Without vehicles."

3 pm: "Or range space. We forgot the National Guard takes over all the firing areas in the summer."

4 pm: A one-star general: "Before we break for the day, does anyone have any questions?"
A precocious buck sergeant: "Sir, are we still in the fucking army? So far that's the only thing they haven't changed."
The general came t-h-i-s close to pissing his pants, he was laughing so hard. Turns out he was thinking the same thing.

[noamnety]

9. Placeholder post for later (nt)

[dawg]

10. I haven't done pre-planning in the past ...

but I'm working on a plan to start.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

11. The software folks are always off the deep end

[malthaussen]

12. Maybe around the time they started announcing there would be an announcement?

Ah, well, English is a living language, which is as good an excuse as any to kill it.

-- Mal