Fear the Walking Dead 2.2 "We All Fall Down" (spoiler alert)

[NewJeffCT]

The group seeks shelter with a survivalist family; and Madison tries to uncover the family's true motives. Meanwhile, Salazar works to discover Strand's intentions.

[NewJeffCT]

1. another cliffhanger coming

on the show...

http://www.inquisitr.com/3003448/fear-the-walking-dead-e-p-says-season-2-cliffhanger-will-be-something-monumental-that-will-beg-people-to-come-back/

[charlie and algernon]

3. Aw man, does that mean another cameraman is about to get his head bashed?

These camera guys/gals need to start a union or something.

[NewJeffCT]

4. who knows what it will be

hopefully, a bunch of them are locked in an abandoned train car and left to die so we can start season 3 with a new cast.



OK, the show isn't that bad, but I'm still struggling with liking anybody.

[bettyellen]

7. I like the junkie son. And the Old Spice guy. Am getting fed up with everyone else though.

[NewJeffCT]

2. have we reached peak zombie?

If not, we're getting close, I think.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/15/peak-zombie-fear-the-walking-dead

[NewJeffCT]

5. less than a hour to go

for the next show

[bettyellen]

6. I was looking for this! Speaking of cliffhangers.....

have you watched The Killing? The American version, it is pretty twisty and satisfying. Was so happy they wrapped up their cliffhangers nicely in the end.

[bettyellen]

8. I hope Solly joins us tonight. I am sure we will be Baitball too.

[NewJeffCT]

9. The more the merrier

would love to have a thread with everybody in it while the show airs one of these days.

[bettyellen]

14. Yep!

[Solly Mack]

16. I'm here. :)

[bettyellen]

21. YAY!!! WHO IS STUPID ENOUGH TO WEAR EAR BUDS IN THE APOCALYPSE?!?!

[NewJeffCT]

10. Ocean zombies

coming for the kiddies

[NewJeffCT]

11. the ocean was fenced off?

does that happen in southern california?

[NewJeffCT]

12. "We're not a threat"

big mistake to announce that

[bettyellen]

13. Big mistake! That guy looked at him like he is dinner.

[Solly Mack]

15. Nice family. (Not)

I'm with Nick. Something is off there.

[Solly Mack]

17. That *nice* survivalist family will end up boarding the yacht.

Well, some of them will.

I predict a break in the fence, a race to the beach/dock and narrow escape - with pirates on their tail.

Chris is getting his kill on.

[NewJeffCT]

18. Might be

That fence won't last against a good sized herd

[Solly Mack]

20. A herd coming out of the ocean. That would be scary.

[bettyellen]

23. The pill thing with the kid freaked me out!!!

[Solly Mack]

26. Yes. You mean the kid, right? :)

[bettyellen]

28. Yes, WTF? I think Dad is planning a mass suicide over there.

[Solly Mack]

29. I don't doubt it...if it came to that.

[bettyellen]

30. Now they are picking peppers and maybe taking the mom with them?

[Solly Mack]

34. Remember she asked if Madison liked little kids?

She was testing the waters to see if her kids can go with Madison.

[bettyellen]

35. I missed that! You are right!

[NewJeffCT]

64. good point

I missed that as well.

[NewJeffCT]

24. what did Travis see

out beyond the fence? Looked like movement?

[Solly Mack]

27. Walkers across the water at some resort looking place. Could be connected but

could be the walkers would have to swim, so to speak.

[suffragette]

68. That's Catalina. I've been there before.

Interesting island.

Stayed at a camping spot. There was a small family of quail that walked around in the morning, knowing they owned the place.

There's also a sizeable herd of buffalo on the island. If they were depicting it as the island it actually is instead of a nature reserve, they could have rounded up food for a year from their stay there.

[Solly Mack]

19. Those damn fence-lines. Always a problem.

[Baitball Blogger]

54. Can anyone say, high tide?

[Solly Mack]

22. Nick being Nick. If you're going to snoop/steal - bring a weapon.

[charlie and algernon]

25. wearing headphones outside seems dangerous now

You'd think you'd want all senses active.

[NewJeffCT]

32. yeah

I thought she was going to get attacked for sure

[bettyellen]

33. Truly stupid. Nice owls, btw!

[Solly Mack]

31. No, Victor. The pirates are fooling you. They know you're there.

[NewJeffCT]

47. Yes

I think you're right on there

[Baitball Blogger]

55. Do you think they attacked the other ship because they thought it was their yacht?

[NewJeffCT]

65. I don't know

They could have just been in the way, or had food/water?

[Solly Mack]

36. I get the feeling there is no talking to George.

[Solly Mack]

37. My, my, my. The things you find while snooping.

[Solly Mack]

38. Oooh. Strand is up to something, and with someone still alive.

[Solly Mack]

39. So George wants to off his family, but the wife wants to save the kids.

Drama and conflict - isn't meeting new people wonderful!

[Solly Mack]

40. Oh, my. The wife is lying to the kids and probably to George.

[Solly Mack]

41. Ut, oh!

[Solly Mack]

42. Willa took the pill. Damn! There goes Melissa.

[Solly Mack]

43. The kids obviously knew what the pills were for - "Willa took HER pill"

[Baitball Blogger]

56. The two boys might have a better chance together.

[Solly Mack]

59. I think the older brother will eventually feed the younger one a power pill.

Before he takes his own.

[Solly Mack]

44. Stupid kid with the gun.

[Solly Mack]

45. That was kind of a bummer. Meet new people and none of them make it beyond the one episode.

[bettyellen]

48. But at least it was some excitement!

[Solly Mack]

49. Yeah. Zombie child attacks parent.

That was OK.

[bettyellen]

50. I really like zombie kids, especially fresh ones!

[Solly Mack]

51. I have this thing about the dead staying dead. Cause, well, it's best.

Though I bet the actress had fun eating her on-screen mother's face.

[Baitball Blogger]

57. They do have a head's up knowing that people will turn, regardless.

So glad we don't have to wait for that plot point to develop.

[Solly Mack]

60. That is a plus

[Solly Mack]

46. PSA: Never take the "Power Pill".

[Thor_MN]

52. Say No to suicide pills.

Not even once!!

[Solly Mack]

53. Heh

[Baitball Blogger]

58. If you really love your family, it's best to go head first into the wood chipper!

[dilby]

61. My daughter is 13, she says Fear The Walking Dead is just sad.

It's the end of the world and the smartest person a live is a recovering/drug addict. I have to agree with her, this family should be dead 10 times over. The dad is no Rick Grimes.

[herding cats]

62. She's wise way beyond her years.

I tried, I really have! I just can't feel sympathetic for any of the characters. Instead I'm ready for all of them to die. Maybe then they'll end the series? Or, maybe they'll recast with some characters with more brains then the resident zombies? Either way it's a win.

[NewJeffCT]

63. That's part of the problem with the show

IMHO - Strand is an intriguing character, but nobody else is somebody I'm really rooting for to be a key, long-term member of the cast. Some of them have potential, but they haven't gotten there yet, and we're going on episode 9 next week.

Compare that to just the first few episodes of the original show - most people are immediately rooting for Rick, and they liked Morgan and felt sad that he couldn't kill his zombie-wife. Then, in the next episode, you meet Glenn, Dale, Amy, Andrea, Shane, Merle, T-Dog, Daryl, Carol, Ed & Sophia, Jacqui, Jim and probably one or two others. People liked Glenn and Dale and a few others right from the beginning.

[lunatica]

66. The first few shows of the Walking Dead

Had some gut wrenching emotions which drew us in. Rick searched for Lori and Carl from the very start. He didn't just wake up in an insane world that threw him for a loop. He also lost his family, not knowing if they were alive or not and you really felt for Morgan not being able to shoot his wife with that amazingly intense scene where he has her in his sights and has to wipe his eyes clear of tears (amazing acting!) and yet can't bring himself to kill her. In the second show Rick runs right into the walking dead mob and his horse is overwhelmed by the zombies while Rick barely escapes under the tank and then into it. Things happened suddenly, shockingly, scaring us and making us care. Animal lovers and horse lovers everywhere got an emotional pounding on that one.

This show doesn't have that emotional draw even after one season. It doesn't really shock or grab you with it's surprises. To be fair, we already know more than the characters do, but I think more could have been done in that respect. For just one example, in the last scenes of last nights show Maddy should have come more unglued at the site of the teenage boy killing his zombie mother and having to leave both him and the child behind. Just looking shocked isn't enough. Maybe she should have screamed and tried to forcefully rescue the little boy while Travis and Nick hold her back. And having Alicia walk around depressed all the time isn't making us care either. If she were more in touch with her grief for her boyfriend we could relate.

And a real irritant to me is why does Nick have super tangled hair ALL the time and why the hell does he keep wearing those old man clothes which he stole from his hospital roommate in the first show!! He was at home for weeks when their neighborhood was under National Guard occupation but he couldn't change his clothes?!

I'm still going to give this show a chance though. It may come up with more interesting things, but I hope it makes us care about the characters while doing it.

[NewJeffCT]

67. next weekend

I'll start a Fear The Walking Dead thread, but I'll most likely be posting live during the premiere of Game of Thrones, and then coming back to Fear afterwards.

[dilby]

70. You make a great point.

Honestly I don't think I can name a single character and I have watched every episode, they have not impressed me enough to remember their names. It's the dad, the daughter, the son, the mom, the drug addict son, the black guy and the bad ass guy from El Salvador and his daughter. Pretty sure that is all of them.

[suffragette]

69. No one mentioned the most shocking moment of this episode.

Nick took a shower.



He still can't seem to find a comb though.

[charlie and algernon]

71. So do we know how much time has elapsed since the outbreak?

Shouldn't there still be a constant military presence in the air at least? Helicopters conducting recon and search and rescue. Jets streaking overhead, etc.

These aren't exactly the fast movers of 28 Days Later. I find it hard to believe the Military would've been defeated so soon. At the least there should still be a Navy and/or Air Force still operating.

[NewJeffCT]

72. That's what I'm wondering, too

we saw the national guard surrounding Los Angeles, but what about the actual army, navy, air force & marines?

[ohnoyoudidnt]

73. I think they are beyond search and rescue at this point.

They seem to be actively napalming inland, though. So they must have some bases that are safe at the moment. There could be some navy ships/submarines out and about. George also said they shut down the border, so maybe there is a significant military presence occupied there.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

74. Any theories on Strand's past.

He does seem to be the criminal type. Good at manipulating people. I doubt his house and boat as from legitimate income, if they are even his. And the secret phone call indicates he is hiding something. I'm not sure if he took people along out of some sense of good nature or he plans on using them for some nefarious purpose, or it was a safety in numbers thing. I don't trust him, but am looking forward into learning more.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

75. That's been one of my beefs with the original series.

It's not like WWZ where the bite takes 10 seconds to turn you.

I would suspect there would be some contingent of military including military aircraft.

Love both shows but the Walking Dead group needs to move out of the backwoods of Georgia.

[NewJeffCT]

76. That's what I'm wondering as well

We've only seen The National Guard around Los Angeles. No navy, air force, army or marines...

And, as long as they had enough ammunition, a small group of soldiers on jeeps and armed with 50 caliber machine guns could cut down zombies by the thousands. Just lure them across bridges or into other choke points. Sure, maybe a good percentage of them won't be killed outright, but if they're cut in half or otherwise disabled, it's easy mop up duty against crawling zombies - a 50 caliber bullet that can punch through several bodies could easily shatter spines, hips, knees, femurs, etc and leave piles of them on the ground and not able to move.