Fear the Walking Dead 2.1 "Monster" (season premiere - spoiler alert)

[NewJeffCT]

In the second-season premiere, the families flee a burning Los Angeles on Strand's yacht, as Strand remains mysterious. Meanwhile, the group encounters danger at sea.

Maybe I'm zombied out, but I'm not all that excited about tonight. Maybe others feel differently?

[Baitball Blogger]

1. I am willing to bet that the writers know what they're up against.

The tempo will pick up.

[bettyellen]

2. Yay. I was hoping you would do this! Thanks again, Jeff.

[NewJeffCT]

7. no problem

death by outboard motor is a new one.

[bettyellen]

3. I think the promo is filled with crappy cliches (monsters, the abyss, etc.) and the show will be

better. I am looking forward to it myself.

[Baitball Blogger]

4. Bringing the dead mother. Po qua?

[NewJeffCT]

5. burial at sea maybe?

not sure

[Baitball Blogger]

6. That L.A. burning scene looked worse than Atlanta burning.

Apocalyptic. And they only captured seconds.

[NewJeffCT]

8. yes

they showed Atlanta being firebombed, but it never looked that bad when they were in the city.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. Looks like Shane is in control of this storyline.

New nautical rules apply.

[NewJeffCT]

11. I wonder about Strand

and what will happen with him

[NewJeffCT]

10. going back to last season

how is the son going to survive without his drugs?

[Baitball Blogger]

12. The mother grabbed alot of drugs when they went back through the infirmary.

I bet she was thinking about her son.

[NewJeffCT]

14. I missed a minute or two

so, I must have missed that

[Baitball Blogger]

15. It was in the last episode.

I caught it on a rerun.

[GOLGO 13]

38. His addictive personality will get him hooked on "something" else

Junkies in general are tenacious survivors. Nick is uniquely qualified to thrive in a apocalyptic environment. Crime, filth & chaos doesn't phase them like normal people. Think about it, a junkie will do just about anything to get what they want/need. Stand sees this quality in him.

Also, look at how they're subtly setting him up a a leader. He piloted the zodiac from the shore to the ship several times & took out the Z with the boat engine without freaking out. He offered his experienced advice on how to treat a gunshot wound. And he dived into the water to go after whatshisface.

Nick is already a hardcore survivor.

[NewJeffCT]

13. who will die of the people on the boat?

this season.

My guess is one of the kids - Nick, Alicia or Chris

[bettyellen]

16. Won't they be joined by plane crash survivors? I still wonder about that kid from school.....

they never showed the end of him, did they?

[NewJeffCT]

18. Yes, the nerdy guy Tobias

but I hope we find out what happened to him and he doesn't become another Morales.

[Baitball Blogger]

20. We don't know where this ship is headed.

I doubt they will be back, but Tobias is a fan favorite so they might try to work him in

[NewJeffCT]

21. true

they said San Diego, but who knows.

[Baitball Blogger]

17. Well, Alicia just did something stupid.

Everyone knows you don't correspond with strangers under the best of circumstances, and there she is answering someone who sounds like trouble.

I see what you mean. Our tolerance for stupid moves by stupid people will be limited. We have already been through all that on WD.

[NewJeffCT]

19. Yeah

I just posted on Twitter that it may be a death sentence

[Baitball Blogger]

23. Alicia or Chris. I don't care for people who don't understand apocalyptic rules.

[GOLGO 13]

39. Nick is already a hardcore survior. He's the next "Daryl"

Alicia - will have a real tough time letting go of the old world. She had "status" in the old world, but that's gone now. She's kinda iffy. However, FTWD needs pretty faces so he's safe...for now.

Chris - He's kinda douchey now, but I think he's gonna bounce back nicely with role models like his dad, Salazar & Nick. I like how interested he was in the rifle that Salazar showed him in the first season & the fishing thing was noticeable.

[NewJeffCT]

22. Alicia falling victim to a swindle?

I'm guessing

[Baitball Blogger]

24. Definitely.

Piracy would make the most sense. She told them they had a desalination machine.

[bettyellen]

25. Ooooh, I missed that- thanks!

[NewJeffCT]

26. Yes

and, he was sinking, but was still there later when she called him to say they couldn't come... so, he's definitely up to something

[Baitball Blogger]

28. Sounds like he has radar capabilities.

[Phentex]

42. I had said to my husband...

yeah the ocean's great except for pirates.

Then Alicia did the most stupid thing she could do. Why didn't they take the blasted thing away from her once they realized she had just given away their location?

[NewJeffCT]

27. so, we have ocean zombies now

that was weird

[Baitball Blogger]

29. Zombies float, I guess.

That is a wreck. Do you suppose that is the result of piracy?

That smoke on the water was signs of a fight. And now Nick comes up on the bottom of a boat riddled with bullets. Yep. Piracy is on the way.

[NewJeffCT]

30. yes

definitely pirates.

[Laffy Kat]

31. In "World War Z" zombies could walk on the ocean floor.

These seem to be sort of floating, tho. Soggy, rotting walkers. Ewwww.

[bettyellen]

32. Strand reminds me of the dude in the Old Spice ads, his grandiose persona.

[Baitball Blogger]

33. Or, he's the best person in the world.

Which doesn't say much when you're last man standing in the apocalypse.

[bettyellen]

34. Ha!

[GOLGO 13]

40. I like him. He's definetly got "depth" to him.

He's a complicated character with several "layers" to him. I'm betting he's some kind of crime-boss with sociopath tendencies. He's quite familiar with firearms.

[bettyellen]

41. He is far and away the most interesting character.... It's interesting how he manipulated people

in the hospital/ jail.

[GOLGO 13]

44. Good point. He's quite perceptive to people's personality.

He picks up what makes people tick & works them to get what he wants. He's a slick one.

[Iris]

51. I thought he was the Old Spice guy.

[Baclava]

35. I'm siding with the black sociopath guy...really unlikeable stupid family, kill them all

yeah - The show would be better if it was just the black guy and the boat and the people he encounters in the zombie apocalypse.

Anyways, some dead mommy corpse drama (wtf are they doing dragging her around?) - boy hungry daughter dialing up some new action, a shot up wrecked boat mysteriously appears out of nowhere, waiting for drama (why isn't their shiny new big boat moving!!!?) while stupid son #1 tries to maybe drown himself, which turns into another rescue scene ... then, pirates


Next

You know, I've gotten so used to ignoring ridiculous sequences from TWD I barely notice them in Fear, like the big overturned boat suddenly appearing 50 yards away from them because a mysterious fog appeared to conceal it and the introduction of aquatic "swimmer" walkers. In a crystal clear ocean. Who knew walkers were olympic swimmers?

Kirkman wrote this, you know.

[NewJeffCT]

36. I think the zombie was floating

and then tried to reach out & grab Nick when he touched it or got next to it. Then, it started flailing, which propelled it forward in the water.

Agree that most of the cast is pretty annoying/irritating - I liked Salazar until he revealed he was a death squad torturer.

And, it does seem silly that Chris just upped and jumped off the boat when they're in water that's 145 feet deep. (And, isn't ocean water that far from shore pretty cold - even in southern California - especially in comparison to the air? They're not in the Caribbean Sea.)

I'm predicting at least one kid doesn't survive the year - Chris, Alicia or Nick. My early favorite is Chris - Nick has the survival skills, like Strand said, and Alicia is book smart, so could become a young & pretty version of Eugene if she can learn to adapt.

They definitely have a lot of issues with pacing.

[Baclava]

37. I think we need the Mystery Science Theater 3000 crew to narrate these episodes

[GOLGO 13]

43. Salazar is an interesting character

He's definitely has that hardcore survivor mentality. Very familiar with firearms, bladed weapons & does not hesitate at all to use them.

Would not be surprised to see him revealed as a US trained former Contra rebel/Anti-Sandinista Special Forces trainer. His age is about right for being a veteran officer of that conflict. A twisted fuck like that is tailor-made for getting jiggy the Zpocalypse.

His age is working against him though.

[Baclava]

46. yeah - he's been showing some common sense, he could develop

That's probably the kiss of death of him though, some of these yahoos have to die to keep it interesting for me

[NewJeffCT]

47. I thought they revealed

last season that Salazar was a death squad torture guy from El Salvador?

[suffragette]

48. The actress playing Alicia just left another show in which she was a fierce fighter.

It will be interesting to see if her character arc here has her developing her fighting skills.

https://m.

[NewJeffCT]

49. Interesting

I've heard good things about that show, but haven't watched it at all.

[suffragette]

50. The first few episodes were a bit rough, but then it started taking interesting twists and turns

You should check it out.

I think Netflix streaming has the first two seasons.

[Baitball Blogger]

45. The zombie in the water was a victim from the gun riddled boat.

[Tripper11]

52. I'm kind of enjoying it so far.....

....in the vein of something zombie to watch until TWD comes back next year.
One thing I try to remind myself is that this is starting over with different people in a different place. When someone says or does something stupid at first I get mad because even I know better than that, but I must remind myself that they are all still learning,

The last few episodes of TWD actually pissed me off a lot because they were breaking the very rules that kept them safe. Breaking up into smaller groups and going beyond the walls in those groups.

So yeah, FTWD has it's problems I agree, but I am trying to watch it from that stand point so maybe it makes it better for me?(intended punctuation)
Just my 2 cents.

[Solly Mack]

53. Hi, all! Just now watching.

Alicia is going to bring trouble to them all with her new radio friend. (Jack) " It's OK, Alicia. I got you. I'll see you soon"

Strand (Victor) is playing it close to the vest. More secrets there. It is his boat. It really is - but he needs to remember that he's only one man and Daniel isn't exactly a weakling.

Daniel is always watching everyone. Smart man.

Finally - Eliza goes to the sea. Dead bodies are a health concern regardless of their status as a would-be zombie.

Travis seems to be getting with the program.

Madison is still right, though.

Nick is Nick. Good thing. No, Nick - let the fucker die if he wants to die.

Chris is Chris. Not a good thing. You can't "fix" infection and you can't cure stupid. Next time no one should jump in to help you.

Ofelia needs to clean that fucking wound better.

Setting the stage for future shows. Mostly a get reacquainted episode.

So far, so-so.

Missed you all!!

Get out of the water you dimwits! The "walking" dead can't drown. Damn, Nick! Idiot! Moron! Get out of the fucking water! So, off Nick goes to save someone. I'm going to be terribly pissed at Nick if he gets himself killed now. Now goes Travis. Damn, people.
I'm hope your curious was satisfied there, Nick.

Alicia needs to tell the others what Jack said. (see above)

Is that "Jack" coming? As in "Hijack"?

Pirates? Fucking Alicia.

The end.

Oh, well.