As a progressive, do you watch, listen, or do something typically associated with conservatives?

[Algernon Moncrieff]

I confess that I am an avid W.E.B. Griffin fan, and I watch "Blue Bloods."

Do you still enjoy listening to "Cat Scratch Fever?" Watch James Woods, Robert Duval or Ronald Reagan movies? Belong to a country club?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I like some of Mel Gibson's movies, like "Gallipoli" and "The Year of Living Dangerously."

I like opera and I sail. Other than that I'm kind of a peasant.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

2. I love early Gibson films

Gallipoli, the original Mad Max and Road Warrior, and The Year of Living Dangerously.

[Laffy Kat]

29. I thought "The Year of Living Dangerously" was one of the best political movies..

I'd ever seen. It was also the first time I'd ever seen Gibson and he was good in that role. I had so much hope for him and was looking forward to following his career. It was before he showed his true colors. I don't enjoy watching him anymore, not now.

[Aristus]

15. Is going to the opera supposed to be conservative?

I go all the time. I'm a die-hard liberal, and I got my conservative Republican wife interested in opera.

My mother and sister are both liberal, like me, and they not only enjoy opera, but are also both classically-trained operatic coloratura sopranos.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

19. Not really; I think it's more an image.

Maybe it's an old stereotype of the wealthy matron in pearls accompanied by her husband in a tux, in their box seats in an ornate opera house, watching through opera glasses and politely clapping gloved hands as Lucia falls dead. All the opera lovers I know are liberal, too.

[Aristus]

20. That pretty much describes me and my wife, except don't let her hear you call her matronly.

Except we haven't seen Lucia Di Lammermoor yet. We both wept at the end of La Boheme when Mimi died, though...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

21. I actually don't like 19th-century opera very much.

My "thing" is the early operas starting with Monteverdi, de'Cavalieri (I belong to an early music group that performed an early de'Cavalieri opera), Purcell, Rameau, and Handel. Mozart's operas are the best, but after Beethoven's Fidelio, opera starts to suck. Most of the 19th century is a musical abyss. I hate Verdi's operas; they are harmonically boring and sound like marching band music with loud singing. But then operas start getting good again with Wagner, which I enjoy, mostly in small doses. Parsifal is splendid. Then Puccini comes along and those are marvelous. I also like Berg's Lulu and Wozzeck. But I'll never understand why Verdi got so popular.

I haven't been to a live opera in awhile (too expensive), but I wear my best bathrobe when listening to recordings.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

47. Opera/classical music person here too.

Looking forward to the third installment of the Ring Cycle very soon in Houston. Amazing huge LCD screens ganged together with spectacular backdrops on them, like the earth from outer space. Done by a unique production company called La Fura dels Baus of Spain. www.lafura.com/en/ You can see clips of their productions. From what the ushers have told me about the first two installments of the Ring Cycle, the young people love all the weirdness and high tech stuff, and the old people hate it. I love it because it's quite imaginative.

And the theatrical lights and technology nowadays at big shows of any kind is amazing. I think that at rock concerts, they've managed to eliminate a lot of the "trash" in the sound. I used to put wads of tissue in my ears to get a clearer sound, but now with digital controls, they've done something to make the sound a lot cleaner in the last 5 to ten years or so.

I do see a wide variety of people at the opera, some obviously affluent, but everyone is reasonably well dressed. Nobody wears jeans. You can always go sit in the buzzard roost and take your binoculars. That's what I do.

I also am into chamber music and jazz. There's an arts organization in Houston that I think is for people who have gotten bored with the symphony and the opera, like me. I've seen most of the standard operas and heard/played most of the standard orchestral repertoire as a student/amateur violin player. The group only puts on chamber music and jazz concerts. They brought Chick Corea to town a while back, and I immensely enjoyed that. It's called The Da Camera Society.

When I had a First-Amendment mobile with stickers all over the back, I hope people were baffled by "Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Republican" next to "I (Heart) Opera".

I dig Mozart and Puccini too and I once saw Parsifal with Eschenbach conducting and enjoyed it greatly. Wagner is OK once a year.

The one opera I've seen I had nothing good to say about was Strauss' Elektra. I thought it was a bunch of crazy screaming women. And seemed to be too dissonant for my taste. He didn't like to write for male parts. I knew that already, but just didn't get anything out of it.

I still want to see Salome and Lulu.

I don't know if Geezer Rock would be liberal or conservative.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

73. Questions

Do you go to your local Cineplex for the digital live broadcasts of the Met?

Subtitles at the Opera: Yes? No? Depends?

FYI, my dad and mom are into opera; they are in their 80s; they make me look conservative.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

76. No, I don't. I live out in the country.

I have to make special trips to the big city (Far enough that I have to stay over night at a hotel) so I have not seen any of the digital live broadcasts at the Met.


Surtitles? YES. That is what turned me on to opera where I got what the story was about. My first opera was in 1968 and it was Rigoletto. I sort of got the story, but not all of it. Or as my piano and violin teacher in grade school (took lessons from him for ten years) said, "Yeah, they stab Gilda and throw her in a sack, and she keeps singing." Even when they're singing in English, it helps. I think I first saw them in 1988 or 1990. They project them on a tiny screen in white letters centered above the stage in Houston. It was either Hansel and Gretel in English for the Christmas show for the kids, or Samson and Delilah in French where I first saw them.


I'm not fluent in any other languages, although I would figure that the closest I will get to fluency is Spanish, living in Texas, and picking some of it up. I took Romance languages (Spanish and Latin) in high school and love them. German baffles me. I can pick up a few words in anything they're singing, but not the whole thing so I read up on the plot beforehand. I took a couple of years of voice lessons a long time ago and learned to sing in French, German and Italian.


I once had a bilingual Texan attempt to teach me German, and from talking to him I realized how much German I had picked up from studying classical music, even though the directions are usually in Italian.

Like knowing that Beethoven wrote a movement for a late quartet called "Heilege Dankesang". Or titles of songs by Schubert like "Die Forelle".

I've played Also Sprach Zarathustra, at music camp in high school(first violin), and the directions are in German. So I'm sitting there baffled wondering what the hell "Sehr langsam" means. I guess Strauss thought he was so special that he didn't have to follow the rules and put the tempo markings and directions in Italian like everybody else.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

89. I have gone to one in my area. We have a lot of opera available around here so don't usually do

the Cineplex.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

88. Love the arias from Verdi, the other parts not so much. Love Mozart, Puccini, Bellini.

[So Far From Heaven]

3. Yeah. I take a dump, just like they do. (nt)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Yes, but do you poop diamonds like they do?

[Wounded Bear]

5. Well, there are a couple of old John Wayne westerns...

that I can watch over and over, and I do.

Several of Clint's movies are entertaining sometimes.

Duvall isn't bad in a lot of his movies, as an actor.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

45. The Dirty Harry flicks and the Sergio Leone Westerns

...then there were the Sondra Locke years...we won't talk about those.

[Ken Burch]

6. Police prodecurals.

Always find them interesting from a human psychological perspective. And I enjoy trying to guess the culprit before the cop characters do.

(For example...and yes, this is a relatively liberal police prodecural...one time on Law and Order SVU, I guessed that Hal Linden's character was guilty halfway through, given the horrible lighting they used for his closeups-swear to goddess, you could see every pore).

I like Blue Bloods because it shows a major police character-Tom Selleck's Police Commissioner Reagan-trying to move past the limitations of the outlook he had been raised with be geuinely fair-minded in how he handles the job. Thought that show would just be right-wing law-and-order propaganda, but it's much subtler than that(mind you, it's weird that the younger members of his family sound MORE "New Yawwk" than the characters of the father and grandfather).

[Algernon Moncrieff]

31. LOL!

I noticed that too! Grandpa and Commissioner Reagan speak virtually without accents, as does Assistant DA Reagan. OTOH, the boys sound like New Yorkers.

Years ago, in West Palm Beach, there was a talk host named Jack Cole (he worked with Randi Rhodes, in fact). He pointed out that the Kennedy boys got their accents from Rose, and that Joe Senior didn't speak with a particularly noticeable accent.

[Ken Burch]

52. That makes sense.

And, actually, most people outside the Kennedy family never heard Joe Senior's speaking voice, since he stayed in the background in the 1960 campaign and had a massive, incapacitating stroke(which he pretty much deserved for having Rosemary lobotomized and then refusing to tell the rest of the family where he was hiding her for the next twenty years) a few months after JFK was sworn in.

[kentauros]

7. I've never watched Ronald Reagan movies because he wasn't a good actor.

I watch movies and shows because I like them, and do not avoid them because of the politics of the actors outside of their day-job. Plus, I'm simply not thinking of them that way when they're acting. I'm thinking of them as the character they are playing at that moment.

The same goes for any entertainment (music, books, et cetera.) I don't normally look up the politics of people whose work I enjoy. Why should I? What they produce determines what I'm going to like, no matter what someone's politics. For example, I can't stand Bob Dylan, and it's not because of his politics. It's because he's got the worst voice in the world, and I simply cannot stand hearing it. Sure, he's a brilliant song-writer, but none of his work interests me, either.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

49. Same opinion of Dylan.

Everybody thought he was such a great songwriter but I heard very little melody along with that awful voice. There are a few things he sang with an actual pitch but they are rare. He wrote some good songs for other people to do(Hint: Hendrix-All Along the Watchtower, George Harrison--If Not For You) .

I think his problem is that if you read the lyrics as poetry, they sound poetic, but there is no melody on top. The words dominate to such an extent that it is often not really a song, it's just poetry with about 3 different notes spread over it. Others who did nothing for me: Gordon Lightfoot, Donovan, Van Morrison, Joni Mitchell. Song writing is about a balance between words and music.

[kentauros]

54. One singer with a gravelly voice I do like is Michael Slattery,

lead singer of Shoulders. I have read how his songwriting has been called not only poetic, but readable as such without the music. The Austin Chronicle wrote a good story on them a few years ago.

And here's one from their first album that doesn't have nearly the rough singing voice of most cuts they've done. The song is quite good, too

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[Recursion]

8. Country and bluegrass music. Rodeos. Monster trucks.

I mean, I love all roots music; country, bluegrass, blues, dixieland, hot jazz, western, mountain. Yeah there's a lot of liberal and moderate musicians in all of those genres, but they've definitely been painted as "conservative" (except for blues I guess, and probably not so much mountain either).

The trucks I can't explain or justify; I just love them.

[mnhtnbb]

9. I confess to also being a "Blue Bloods" fan

We did belong to a country club when we lived in St. Joseph, MO for 6 years. It had
the only decent restaurant/chef in town.

We were out to dinner one time at one of the then considered 'best' restaurants. The pasta I ordered
had so much onion it was barely edible. The table next to us was an old couple. She was
having a tuna sandwich on white bread and potato chips. For dinner.

It was sad. When we traveled, the first thing we would do was to look up Zagat rated restaurants
and enjoy eating out.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

32. St Joseph is incredibly conservative from what I've seen

I think your only other choice for top notch food was to drive an hour into KC.

[mnhtnbb]

34. We did that, too.

Our kids were young then. Every time we went out to an adult dinner meant getting a babysitter.
And I paid our babysitters very well--more than the going rate.

This was back in the day before cell phones. I remember driving up the street
to our house one time--coming home from a date night in Kansas City--to see a locksmith truck
in our driveway. The sitter had gone out the front door to say good-by to her aunt who had stopped by,
and the door locked behind her. All the other doors--and windows--were locked. Our 3 year old son
was asleep upstairs in his room-- and ok.

She was so embarrassed. We're still in touch with her on fb, though, and that was more than 25 years ago.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

44. I'm glad it ended well and you can laugh

Some other day, we can discuss Kansas City restaurants.

[bighughdiehl]

10. Sure

I've enjoyed some Tom Clancy novels. I like Law and Order, and occasionally catch Blue Bloods.
Like quite a few Mel Gibson movies like Braveheart. Just live your life people. Best to break stereotype now and then, right?

[bigwillq]

11. Yes

No

I don't know.

We're all human.

This thread is silly.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

33. It's the Lounge, where we have silly threads

[NewJeffCT]

12. I can usually separate the actor/actress from their politics

I liked some of Arnold's action movies - Terminator, Terminator 2, Predator, True Lies, Total Recall and a few others.

Duvall is a good actor, and his presence was sorely missed in Godfather 3.

James Woods is good at playing a jerky asshole. And, a woman I went to high school with bought a home in (I think) Rhode Island from him and said he was very nice in person. If I recall, he was an investor and a local contractor bought a home there, fixed it up and flipped it and my friend bought it. Of course, he could just have been being polite to make sure the transaction went smoothly.

That said, after his tirades about blacks and Jews, it's hard for me to look at Mel Gibson the same way anymore, despite a lot of his excellent early work.

I also can't recall ever having watched a Ronald Reagan movie, though I probably caught snippets on TV when I was a kid. Not a political thing, though, just never had a desire to watch Bedtime for Bonzo and some of his other films.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

35. Woods politics were also impacted by witnessing what turned out to be the dress rehearsal for 9-11

Reagan was a so-so actor, but he has a few stand-out roles. Kings Row and Voice of the Turtle come to mind. Also, he did a supporting role as a gangster in a Don Siegel-directed TV movie in the early 60 that is supposed to be really good -- but I've never seen it.

[Throd]

13. I enjoy large American cars with gas-guzzling V8 big blocks.

[KamaAina]

14. I went through a NASCAR phase a few years ago.

Then the "Car Of Tomorrow" came along and it got boring, although it seems to improved somewhat of late.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

36. I lived in Florida for two decades and never made it to Daytona

[KamaAina]

39. I grew up in Baltimore and never made it to Pimlico

We did leave when I was 11, but still...

[Algernon Moncrieff]

43. I did once.

The Kentucky Derby and the Belmont are still on my bucket list.

I was at the 1992 Breeders Cup when I saw a horrific accident on the track and had to watch a horse be put down. We stayed for the rest of the day and watched AP Indy win the Classic, but I couldn't go to the track for years after that.

[OriginalGeek]

58. I've lived her for 30+ years

and neither have I.

I would like to witness the event some day though. My dad loved NASCAR but he lived in Charlotte so he went to races there. I don't generally watch the sunday races but will leave it on if I'm skipping through channels and something is happening...But I think I would appreciate the roar and thunder of the live event.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

60. My BIL and his dad would go uo and watch everything EXCEPT the 500

They'd watch the time trials and the other events leading up.

Bike week before the big motorcycle race at Daytona is also supposed to be epic.

[bluedigger]

16. I enjoy the Jeep culture and four wheeling.

I backpacked a lot of the Maine Appalachian Trail in my youth, but I have a bum knee now. I don't talk politics much, on the trail or online.



Up around 11,000' on the way across Imogene Pass a few years ago.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

37. Did you see "A Walk In the Woods" with Nick Nolte & Robert Redford?

A fun film about a late-in-life Appalachian Trail adventure.

[bluedigger]

57. No, I missed it.

Sounds interesting, though.

[hibbing]

17. I play violent video games

Not sure if that is against being liberal and contradicts my sign off on here as always "peace". I used to like Dennis Miller on SNL, but then he went all conservative and I just don't think his humor is funny anymore, but I think that is more because it just isn't as opposed to his political views if that makes any sense.

Interesting thread, I'm interested in what others will have for this one.


Peace

[Iris]

18. Not really. I'd like to be able to say yes but I'm a pretty typical latte drinking white liberal.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

74. I have been known to order a latte.

I've also been known to order Scotch.

I have no idea where this places me on the spectrum.

[Iris]

77. I don't know either, but you can hang out with me any day!

[Arugula Latte]

79. Same here.

I'm pretty much a walking stereotype.

[Iris]

81. I would have never guessed!

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[mackerel]

22. I'm mostly homebound but

occasionally I meet up with friends for coffee or wine and all my friends who like to socialise are Reps.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

75. My cousins skew 2-1 Republican

Maybe closer to 3-1.

High School friends -- closer to 5-1 Republican.

[Iggo]

23. Listening to 70s era Nugent songs is not a conservative activity.

For that matter, neither is listening to Megadeth.

I do both those things. However, I also do my damnedest to make sure they don't receive a penny for it.

[kwassa]

24. Subscribe to the WSJ

If I stay off the editorial page it has sone great writing.

[Oneironaut]

25. My guilty pleasure movie is "Red Dawn."

It's just so terrible - I can't turn away!

I also read Free Republic to catch up on the latest talking points.

[3catwoman3]

26. Like the OP, i have enjoyed many of Griffin's books, especially...

...those featuring the young cop Matt Payne. I only borrow them from the library, so he doesn't make any money from me.

I have never watched a Ronald Reagan movie, nor do I ever plan to. I have seen a few clips, and I think to call him B-grade was generous.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

42. I never read the "Badge of Honor" series

The newer books that are written with his son -- not so good.

[MH1]

27. My guiltiest pleasure is (sometimes) Coast to Coast. Depending on the topic.

I used to love listening to Art Bell and the nonsense about "reptilians". George Noory isn't anywhere near as good but sometimes he does have interesting guests.

Even the stuff that isn't obviously nonsense, I take with not just a little salt, but the entire salt mine. But it can be fun to hear the whackadoodle stuff they come up with.

That said, I.Will.Not listen to Jerome Corsi. If he's on the show, I'm turning off that episode. There are a few others that when they come on I realize I can't tolerate listening to them.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

41. I used to listen to that back in the day. I haven't heard it in years.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

28. I'm an unapologetic (except for saying I'm unapologetic) John Wayne movie fan.

Mainly of course the westerns.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

40. Red River

Howard hawks directs John Wayne and Monty Clift. Damn good film.

[Generic Brad]

30. This feels like a trap

I just know there's some lurker out there taking screen shots and cataloguing our every word so they can someday publicly accuse us of being closet right wingers. I refuse to answer on the grounds that I sometimes share their paranoia.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

38. Some lurker - perhaps. Not me

I don't take notes and I don't look at posts and then say "but in 2008 you said...." Hell, I can barely remember breakfast.

[Generic Brad]

62. I don't remember who I'm talking to half the time

And you are....?

[mia]

46. Watching, listening to the Preppers movement.

Know a few Mormons and have close family members and friends who are preparing for an uncertain future. They live frugally and are concerned about being self-sufficient. Have to admit that I think about these things too.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

50. We could probably all learn to be more self sufficient

..even if we don't carry it to that extreme.

[mia]

48. I watch "Blue Bloods" too.

I don't think of it as a conservative series. Quite the opposite.

[northernsouthern]

51. Action is easier than comedy...

I find I can watch some conservative themed action movies like Clint Eastwood movies, but at times they are a bit much (the Good the Bad and the Ugly wins me over with the music every time, and it is a little less political). I can't stomach Chuck Norris, Stallone was hit and miss, but since his statement about guns I find I can watch his shows a bit easier now (I think that makes me intolerant?). But I think the rule is if the story is good I can watch it, excluding Mel Gibson any more.

I have yet to find any conservative comedy I can watch, I think Married with Children was the closest I came, but that mas mostly liberal I think with a coat of conservative thrown in and tons of low brow. I find conservative comedies very rude, crass, close minded, bad natured, low brow, etc. I hated Home Improvement, and most of those sit-coms.

[UrbScotty]

53. I'm pretty religious (as are a majority of progressives, even though...

...many see religion as a predominantly conservative thing). I am a member (and former local leader) of the Knights of Columbus.

I also used to watch CNBC all the time. I was also a fan of the "Blue Collar Comedy" team (Foxworthy, White, Engvall, Larry the Cable Guy).

[avebury]

55. I really try to stay away from stuff typically associated with conservatives.

Life is far to short.

[MrScorpio]

56. I listen to wing nut radio

And check out wing nut sites from time to time. But that's about it.

Gotta see what the wing nuts are up to.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

64. I used to enjoy listening to Limbaugh and yelling at my radio until about '94

Then I could not take it anymore

[kerry-is-my-prez]

91. I enjoy hearing how upset Limbaugh gets about Obama and the Dems. He gets so crazed, it's pretty

funny and sort of like seeing divine justice occur. He's still upset that Obama won.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

92. Obama and Bill Clinton made him a lot of money

He should send a thank you note.

[OriginalGeek]

59. I have a concealed carry permit

although I have never even once carried a gun anywhere. But I could if I wanted. I was planning to go target shooting with my son at one point but we never got around to it and then he moved to Texas so that will have to wait.

I love to play golf but I have never been a member of a country club. I go to public courses during the week in dead summer and play for like 10 or 15 bucks. Except I haven't had a chance to do that in years either.

I won't listen to Terrible Ted although I used to have some albums. That was long before the internet made it easy to find out how stupid some entertainers are.

I like Robert Duval as an actor - has he said anything that was Nugent level offensive? Or is he just an old conservative guy? I have conservative friends whom I know to be kind and absolutely not racist but are just conservative. (They are not especially enamored of either Trump or Cruz btw.)

I can take or leave James Woods. He's pretty good as a guest voice (of himself) on Family Guy.

I admit I tend to cool off on a performer/entertainer if I find out they are conservative but I admit I sometimes make exceptions and sometimes I'm hypocritical about them.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

61. I still have Cat Scratch Fever in my cassette collection somewhere

Pretty much, though, I can't listen to Nugent anymore.

[mythology]

63. I generally separate the politics of an actor or musician from their work

So I have no problems enjoying Meatloaf's music even though he's a Republican. I can watch Mel Gibson movies. I don't see anything wrong with enjoying the things you enjoy. I don't subscribe to the belief that everything is political.

My grandfather was such a Republican he would have voted for Nixon a 3rd time, but he was also one of the most decent caring people I've ever met.

[Jamaal510]

65. I watch South Park sometimes (which is notorious

for politically-incorrect humor), and I sometimes look up RW YouTube clips out of boredom.

[Upthevibe]

66. I read that Robert Duvall has recently stated he's no longer a Republican..just an F.Y.I...N/T

[GOLGO 13]

67. Firearms, falconry, bow-hunting & going off road with the Jeep.

I read plenty of Clancy/Spy/War novels. I listen to plenty of "Outlaw" country & I just DGAF about the politics of it.

I'm friendly with plenty of folks that know where to get good apple/cinnamon moonshine & spend their Sundays in church.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

72. Falconry!

That just sounds cool, no matter who you vote for.


I also like Tom Clancy -- especially Hunt for Red October. Clancy could literally describe the sequence of events of a valve breaking in a cooling system for a nuclear reactor step by step and make it compelling reading.

[denbot]

68. I'm a trucker.

A fairly high percentage are conservative rednecks.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

69. Can you answer an unrelated question for me?

I saw a trailer recently with what appeared to be a help wanted sign -- in Russian. What's up with that?

[denbot]

70. There are a lot of Russian and Polish drivers.

I believe it's has to do with both a high concentration of Slavic immigrants, and trucking companies in Chicago. Trucking is one of those industries you can make a reasonable living without extensive training, or experience.

[Bryan]

71. Oh, sure.

I think you can be a liberal who is skeptical of the value of military interventionism and still enjoy military adventure stories. I've had a sneaking fascination with special operations troops since I was a boy playing with G.I. Joe figures, and it's never left me.

Plus, basic sensibility plays a role, too. James Stewart was a Republican, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let it keep me from enjoying The Philadelphia Story.

[kwassa]

78. I go to church every week.

My church is very, very liberal and extremely diverse, both ethnically and racially.

I read some conservative columnists from time-to-time, just to see how the opposition is spinning things. The more intelligent ones can actually make some points we need to hear.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

84. I'll read George Will when the mood strikes me

He did a recent article on saving the Princeton battlefield we should all get behind.

I go to services every week with my wife and kids, although I'm not a member of the faith.

[clarice]

80. I like white bread and mayo sandwiches...does that count?nt

[Sentath]

82. Yes, I like

Clear Liquors (Whiskey, Tequila)
Hard Candies
and
Fiji Water

[Codeine]

83. Black metal and neo-folk/martial folk music has some really dodgy

politics going on within the scene, but I still enjoy the music a great deal. Dark, desolate, and beautiful.

Samurai films often have a fairly right-wing message buried in them, but I'm not paying any attention to that aspect when I watch, and I certainly watch a lot of them.

[Xipe Totec]

85. I drink a lot of liquor. Does that count?

[Algernon Moncrieff]

87. George Washington distilled whiskey

Franklin said beer was proof God wanted us to be happy.

I think it makes you American.

[Nac Mac Feegle]

86. I have a diesel pickup

and I like beer. And whiskey.

My job requires more 4 Wheel Drive operation in a year than most Jeepsters will ever do in a lifetime. And I enjoy it!!!

[MADem]

90. I find James Woods amusing on The Family Guy only. He plays what he is in real life:

an asshole.