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I know I was so looking forward to "Memoirs of a Geisha" when it came out as a movie and well, it was just awful. The actresses they used for the main 3 female roles were all very talented but none of them were Japanese and from what I read both the Japanese and Chinese were upset about that (Japanese - why couldn't they use Japanese actresses, Chinese- how could Chinese actresses be a part of a Japanese movie). And several of the key plotlines were just ruined. But I will say that the cinematography and costumes used were just amazing.
What favorite books of yours were ruined by the movie made.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)It's not so much that the movie was bad - but it was grossly incomplete. And the ending of the book, which was the only possible resolution of the relationship between Starling and Lecter given everything Thomas Harris had written about these two characters, was discarded in its entirety. It has been said that the proper ending is unfilmable. This is so only if one places, as is the usual practice, commerce above art.
I never had any problem with Julianne Moore as Starling - I thought she was excellent in the role and Hopkins was Hopkins, but the ending just felt tacked on compared to the creepy psychodrama of the book.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)ohiosmith
(24,262 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)Hotel New Hampshire (John Irving)
World According to Garp (ditto) - not awful, but no way the book could be matched
The Stand (Stephen King) - didn't care for many of the choices for actors/actresses, again - no way a movie could possibly be made of such an incredible book
Balzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress - amazing book, quite a bad movie.
probably others, but those come to mind first!
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I mean the casting for both Garp and Hotel were perfect but Irving books are so full of small details that Irving movies tend to lose those details. I loved Glenn Closs as Jenny Fields (Garps Mom) and John Lithglow was divine as Roberta Muldoon (former Philadelphia Eagle Tight-end now cross dresser friend of Jenny Fields).
I think they almost came close with "The Cider House Rules" but I thought they made Candy a bit too raunchy which ruined the love affair between Candy and Homer. I thought in the book it was a very tender love affair whereas the movie made it seem like 2 horny kids.
The adaptation for "Prayer for Owen Meany" was so bad they changed the name - I think it was "Simon Birch". There seems to been 2 movies about a boy who had stunted growth right around the same time.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)And I read Owen Meany and loved it - but when we listened to it a few years later as a book on CD....just remarkable.
Actually, I even love Irving's Water Method Man - wonderful book (hilarious in parts, so sad in others).
Irving has a way of really tugging at my heart!
Logical
(22,457 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Neoma
(10,039 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)The Mambo Kings
House of the Spirits
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)Boylen Girl was another one.
Cass
(2,600 posts)The movie was god-awful. Really disappointing because the book was very good.
Bruce Wayne
(692 posts)Some books-to-movies I'm eager to see--Watchmen, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Water for Elephants--because I want to see how a director takes the themes of the book and interprets it only the screen. I can usually know "who dunnit" and still get pulled along by a compelling interpretation.
The DaVinci Code was different by not being any different from the book. Ron Howard didn't bring anything new to the story. Nothing surprised me, nothing looked different from how it was already laid out in my head from the first reading. It was meant to be a big budget event movie, but it ended up boring me.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)... that The Da Vinci Code is one of the few instances where the film was actually superior.
Brown's gift is his ability to relate complicated subject matter to an audience who, as we are seeing from the racist reactions to the casting of The Hunger Games, apparently need plot and character details spoon-fed to them over and over... and over again before they (maybe) sink in.
Bladian
(475 posts)dogknob
(2,431 posts)...and read one of the sequels. The subject matter itself is fascinating. It's the remedial high-school-lit-class presentation that sucks.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)Laughably funny books, really, in how hard he tries...and misses!
Phentex
(16,334 posts)Dan Brown novels are too predictable.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)That was Umberto Eco's response when asked in an interview if he'd read The DiVinci Code and what he'd thought of it, to compare his book to Brown's in terms of content and subject.
He refuses to read it, thinks nobody else should either.
Edit: He doesn't literally mean that Dan Brown is one of the characters, he's saying something akin to "Dan Brown isn't a serious writer or scholar. He's an idiot who believes his own imaginary theories."
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)DFW
(54,403 posts)Maybe it's just because I'm from the South and Barbra Streisand is not, but I feel she just totally
missed the point of the book and understood none of Pat Conroy's characters. I loved the book,
but hated the movie. For all I know, Streisand loved the book, too, but she was lost in trying to
make it come alive on the screen. For all I know, maybe anyone trying to do that would have failed
with that book.
Bladian
(475 posts)Tom_Foolery
(4,691 posts)Just sayin'!
Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)Tom_Foolery
(4,691 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Oh, wait...
Tom_Foolery
(4,691 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)Denzel Washington and Tom Cruise, from what I've read (though it was some time ago - could have changed that).
Remarkable book - all ready to be disappointed by the movie - the book is that good.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)In fact, once elected, I will propose the "Bonfire of the Vanities Act" which makes this paractice a Federal offense.
underpants
(182,826 posts)I live that movie. Plus it inspired "the only living boy in New York"ich is a GREAT song
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)That book doesn't lend itself well to a screenplay, but Henry pulled it off.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)but one of the worst as far as ruining my memory of the book was "The Far Pavilions".
Amy whats-her-face just didn't cut it as "Anjuli".
dogknob
(2,431 posts)2. Eight Million Ways To Die -- Jeff Bridges was probably born to play Matthew Scudder, Block's fractured avenging-angel private eye. Oliver Stone wrote the first draft of the screenplay. They probably had a great movie right there, but that's not what ended up on the screen. The production was apparently so submerged in cocaine usage that someone had the idea to change the setting to LA and introduce blow as a plot device. Director Hal Ashby (his final film) was in terminal free-fall while making this so-bad-its-worse film.
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)AAWWWFFUULLLLL MOVIE!
Worthless.
Read the novel though.
IcyPeas
(21,884 posts)Orrex
(63,215 posts)Oh, wait. That was a shitty book turned into a shitty movie.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)with a semi-qualified, sort-of exception for Starship Troopers - the movie was still shit but it had Neil Patrick Harris in it and I love that guy.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)why, after they got their asses handed to them on Big K, the Federation didn't start passing out 81mm mortars to the cap troopers.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)I'm thinking either Steve Buschemi or tommy lee jones for Lazarus Long
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)I much preferred reading these delightful books to my children
than the Harry Potter series.
They were smart, funny and well written.
The movie was a DISASTER.
I wasn't a huge fan of Jim Carrey before the movie, but he
really stank up the screen in this.
taterguy
(29,582 posts)You can't condense an 800 page book into a 2-hour TV movie.
And Bill Paxton was horribly miscast as John Paul Vann. He was just too damn tall. The role needed to go to a short guy, to capture Vann's Napoleanic tendencies.
mikeSchmuckabee
(349 posts)Particularly Breakfast of Champions, Slaughterhouse 5, and Slapstick.
'Mother Night' was a good movie, but I've never read the book. Same with 'Happy Birthday, Wanda June.'
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)I agree with you on B of C and Slapstick. Slaughterhouse 5 was pretty bad, but of all the movies made from Vonnegut books, I think it's the best attempt.
Canis Mala
(91 posts)I'm a big fan of the film version of Slaughterhouse 5. I think they did a good job conveying the key points.
mikeSchmuckabee
(349 posts)Really loved the book. I'll enjoy Mother Night soon. Thanks.
mikeSchmuckabee
(349 posts)and enjoyed them all. I will enjoy Mother night soon. Thank u.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)They shouldn't have had Bruce Willis as the lead.
Spike89
(1,569 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)I just couldn't visualize BW as Wayne Hooper.
ceile
(8,692 posts)Wonderful spy novel turned into the biggest piece of shit ever. Made one of the main characters into a bad guy and left others out all together.
Devil In a Blue Dress was pretty bad too.
arbusto_baboso
(7,162 posts)One of the greatest (if not THE greatest) science fiction novels ever written, with layers and layers of subtext and political allusions. Thoroughly ruined by the Dino De Laurentiis piece of crap in the 80s. The sci fi channel's miniseries did a bit better, but still wasn't great.
Of course, many of the things that make the book work so well can't really be translated to the screen...
RZM
(8,556 posts)The only place Paul Atreides should 'make it rain' is a strip club.
Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)Out of the entire book there was only one thing they skipped entirely which is pretty damn good. Plus the actors in both it and Children were great. I cannot even re-read the book without hearing The Baron Harkkonnen's voice from the flick.
Spike89
(1,569 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 28, 2012, 06:09 PM - Edit history (1)
It isn't my favorite Tom Robbins book, but I do think it might be the one most likely to have been made into a decent movie, but the movie was horrible.
I also hated what happened to The Postman. Again, not the best book by David Brin, but one of my favorites (it is set in Oregon). When the movie came out, I thought it might grab some of the powerful ideas from the book. Sadly, it not only didn't, in my opinion it seemed to show the opposite viewpoint in more than a few cases. I think that was the biggest disappointment in a book adaptation for me.
edited to change cowboys to cowgirls...oops
RZM
(8,556 posts)Granted many were made for TV and thus had low budgets and other constraints. And not all of the books were great either. I'd say 'It' is the worst one (movie that is).
Doctor Who
(147 posts)Except Misery, Shawshank and Stand by Me. Love his books, most of his movies, not so much. Tommyknockers and Thinner were the worst by far, IMO.
edit: Still waiting for someone to take a shot at making The Dark Tower series.
Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)And I thought rose red was decent (casting wise at least)
RZM
(8,556 posts)I liked Shawshank and the Mist. I wasn't all that into the Green Mile, but it wasn't bad (I never read it either).
Stand By Me is a classic. Probably the best Stephen King movie. Misery was good too.
The rest, not so much. The Langolier was atrocious, even Bronson Pinchot couldn't save that one
Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)One of my all time favorite terrible movies
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I mean it's either going to be great or fucking awful. It's gone through about 4 studios and 3 producers thus far and not yet begun shooting. Javier Bardem is signed on to play Roland.
Broken_Hero
(59,305 posts)I saw the movie before reading it, and I left the movie theater with a "what the fuck did I just watch?" expression on my face. The book was a lot better, and things made a lot more sense. To its credit, the movie was half way decent til the introduction of Kurtz(Morgan Freeman's character).
RZM
(8,556 posts)Tabasco_Dave
(1,259 posts)Denninmi
(6,581 posts)The novel was very good. The movie with Jodie Foster was just a mess.
Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)All copies of the movie "John Carter" should be destroyed.
Also, The Iliad. "Troy" was just so very wrong.
Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)I about walked out of that shit stain
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)All the emotion was in the first part; all the action was in the second part.
The series driven by emotion, and Rowling, I love her but she can't write an action scene to save her life.
So what did they do? Played up the action.
It also bugged the hell out of me that they changed the part with Neville and the snake.
The whole thing felt like they brought Chris Columbus back.
I hate to say this because the casting was so brilliant, but it was evident sometime around the third film that they were going to have to remake THE WHOLE THING at some point.
(Seriously, I was fidgeting through the whole film. The fact that I'd finished "A Dance With Dragons" the day before probably also put me in a less-than-charitable mood. )
Logical
(22,457 posts)They all sucked!!!
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)What a turkey.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Tom Wolfe spent years researching his novel that captured the complicated tenor of New York City in the early eighties. The mush of a movie was so bad that an entire book was written about all the screw-ups. Starting with horrible miscasting.
The yuppie guy was supposed to be smart, greedy, venal and self-absorbed - not the overly likable 'everyman' Tom Hanks. The reporter in the book was a brilliant cynical hard-drinking old school journalist, a Pete Hammell type - not the preening, self-conscious Bruce Willis who repeated his tv show Moonlighting schtick. In the book, the judge is a liberal white jewish guy who is so sick of the overcrowded courts that he provides leniency to everyone, based on a real judge in the Bronx. The Hollywood suits wanted Morgan Freeman in something, so they rewrote the role and cast him instead, completely changing what was so interesting about the character. The worst miscasting was the society woman. In the book she was a 'social x-ray' - Wolfe's famous term for the ultra thin, seemingly bored super rich debutantes. This role was given to the bubbly, total L.A. - not at all New York - Melanie Griffith. One example of her horrendous disregard for acting - without telling anyone she went off and got noticeable breast enhancements halfway through the filming, causing them to have to re-shoot several scenes.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)with subtitles.
Mendocino
(7,495 posts)But a truly terrible film.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)The movie wasn't "bad" but seemed too superficial compared to the book.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)...nearly all of the spirituality and mythology from the book. By having Hazel-Rah as the hero instead of El-ahrairah, we are left with a depressing, violent story about a bunch of guys who realize they won't be able to continue their escape from tyranny across generations unless they round up some does.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)That was an even worse adaptation.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)...from a while back.
When I saw Children of Men, the ending reminded me of the end of the Plague Dogs film.
It would be interesting to see what sort of film would be made of either of those books (or Shardik) now, but that's just not gonna happen.
tanyev
(42,564 posts)A children's classic that was mutilated beyond recognition in the movie The Seeker.
Bruce Wayne
(692 posts)RFKHumphreyObama
(15,164 posts)American audiences for the most part wouldn't have heard of it but it was a very successful, well-written and touching coming of age novel written by an author named Melina Marchetta. It was given as a Christmas present to my sister but I ended up reading it and falling in love with it. It is currently studied in many high schools as part of the literature curriculum in Australia. Due to its popularity and its appeal as a novel, they decided to make it into a movie. Big mistake.
First of all, the movie was produced about a decade after the book was written -fair enough -but they changed the settings and popular culture contained in the novel to reflect the era in which the movie was made so as to appeal to modern teenagers. I can understand why they did that but it not only created some continuity issues (because despite modernizing the era in which the story happened, they kept in parts from the novel that were set in the original age that it was written, meaning that various historical facts about the characters were referenced didn't make sense -very poorly thought out by the scriptwriters). Also I thought that part of the charm of the book was that it fitted in so well into the times in which was written and much of that was lost when it was adapted into the modern age
Secondly, they moved a major event that happened near the end of the novel to the middle of the movie. The major event in question was a defining event in the book and its place near the end of the book was significant to the coming of age experience of the main character of the book. By moving it to the middle of the movie, it lost much of its significance and detracted from the character's evolution that worked so well by having it near the end of the book. I have no idea why they did this -it served no purpose
Thirdly, one of the highlights of me reading the book was how well-written the character of the mother of the main protagonist of the storyline was. Since the protagonist was a teenager and the daughter of a single parent, her mother played a crucial role in the novel and the way she was written was absolutely amazing. She was such a lively, fiery, passionate, amazing woman who had endured much heartbreak and tragedy in her life and yet had emerged from it even stronger and more self-confident than ever. Yet the actress they cast in the movie to play her did so terribly -she was wooden and lacked the depth and substance that made her character so amazing. It was so heartbreaking to see such a great character ruined
Finally, the novel left a number of issues unresolved. That was part of the charm of the novel -that everything was not resolved and wrapped up smoothly, that there was so many unanswered questions that left the reader with a lot to wonder and to think about. Whereas the movie felt the need to resolve every issue and spell it out for the audience. By doing that, it left the story without much of the intrigue that had made it so good.
It made me so furious. The author in question has written a few more novels since then -one of them in particular is just as beautiful and amazing as her first novel. I have learned that they are planning to make it into a movie. Here we go again
RFKHumphreyObama
(15,164 posts)In fact I have yet to see one that I can remember liking. Roald Dahl was a great author and storyteller with some very creative writers. Note to movie producers THAT MEANS THAT HIS STORIES ARE GOOD ENOUGH ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT YOU HAVING TO ADD YOUR OWN STUPID TWISTS TO THE PLOT
I probably should warn that there are some spoilers contained below for those who haven't watched the two movie adaptations of "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" -the first one with Gene Wilder and the second one with Johnny Depp
Spoilers
I know that the adaptation of "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" with Gene Wildere gets panned a lot and not without good reason and I can see why Roald Dahl disliked it but, on the whole, I rather liked it except for one major thing -I didn't like the fact that they made Charlie and his grandfather join the rest of the kids and their parents in disobeying Willy Wonka's instructions. For me, it took away some of the qualities that made both their characters so likeable and was a pointless and unecessary twist which contributed nothing-and in fact detracted -from the movie
The second adaptation by Tim Burton was very good. His take on Willy Wonka and his character was challenging and thought-provoking and I admired how faithful he tried to be to the book and his plot (even though I didn't like his take on the Oompa-loompas) But then he went and added on this stupid backstory to Willy Wonka's life with his dentist father that to me was just lame and unecessary. But even with that, it still would have been great had he not ruined all his efforts to stay faithful to the book at the end by completely changing the moral of the original book to suit his own stupid backstory. He had been doing so well and then he goes and butchers the theme of the original book. It was just so stupid and it destroyed the whole charm of the movie for me
It was said that Roald Dahl never liked the adaptations of his books into movies (there may have been exceptions, I don't know). I don't blame him. For some reason they always feel the need to butcher his great storylines and the movie always suffers as a result
Burma Jones
(11,760 posts)PassingFair
(22,434 posts)My grown children are STILL afraid of "The Trunchbull".
I also liked "The Witches".
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)Ugh...
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Period.
It's the writing that makes the books, and that language is not do-able in a movie.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I loved the books.... the movie was horrible.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I loved the actors but what a complete steaming turd that film ended up being.
If we can include comic books then League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is right up there on the Shit List as well. Just dire.