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alarimer

(16,245 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:29 AM Apr 2016

My cat may have hyperthryoidism

I took him to the vet yesterday for his annual checkup and because he had a sore on his rear end. I'd noticed he's lost some weight since last year, but I didn't think it was that much. Turns out it was 2 pounds, which is a lot when you only weigh 10. He has a heart murmur (which hadn't been there last year), so the vet took some blood and will run some tests. But she things it's his thyroid.

The sore on his rear turned out to be an abscess. Not bad, thankfully, but I am giving him antibiotics twice a day, which of course he loves (not). Actually he only pouted for a few minutes this time, compared to an hour last night, so that's an improvement, I guess.

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My cat may have hyperthryoidism (Original Post) alarimer Apr 2016 OP
Oh I am sorry your cat is unwell nadine_mn Apr 2016 #1
He's almost 15. alarimer Apr 2016 #2
Our cat is 17 nadine_mn Apr 2016 #4
If he on any kind of pain relief for the pancreatitis? hamsterjill Apr 2016 #23
See if it comes in a liquid. Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #11
I've had a couple of hyperthyroid cats LiberalElite Apr 2016 #25
kitty hugs oldandhappy Apr 2016 #3
Dr. Tinycat prescribes extra kisses shenmue Apr 2016 #5
Buddy says thanks n/t alarimer Apr 2016 #6
My cat (at age 12) also had that and the vet had me add a few drops of a liquid herb to her water Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #7
If you can remember, I'd like to know what herb that is Pakhet Apr 2016 #9
I'll try and give the vet a call. Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #10
thanks for the advice. I may have to get a trap to get Pakhet Apr 2016 #12
It took some patience to actually get her into the trap Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #13
my son found 3 kittens on our roof about a year ago Pakhet Apr 2016 #14
Thank you for helping the kitties. They are hard to place, there are so many, heartbreaking Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #15
He was a cutie and certainly looks like the master of all he surveys Pakhet Apr 2016 #17
He really is a fearless little guy, but I guess he had to be Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #18
As for posting photos, if I can figure it out, anyone can, LOL Rhiannon12866 Apr 2016 #19
On my own I started putting SolidGold seameal LiberalElite Apr 2016 #26
Actually no, you want to lower the amount of iodine in the diet. alarimer Apr 2016 #30
This is (I believe) normal in older cats... mak3cats Apr 2016 #8
If you cat has hyperthyroidism get a prescription for Methimazole Wolf Frankula Apr 2016 #16
(update)Well, he definitely has it. alarimer Apr 2016 #20
We had a cat with this condition. Iris Apr 2016 #21
Yes, there is, but it is brief. alarimer Apr 2016 #22
We've done the iodine treatment. hamsterjill Apr 2016 #24
There are a couple of places in Baltimore, but none here. alarimer Apr 2016 #29
I lost my cat 2 months ago - 20 years old!! KartBlanche Apr 2016 #27
I'm sorry to hear this. alarimer Apr 2016 #28
Our Boots was diagnosed in this same manner. benld74 Apr 2016 #31

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
1. Oh I am sorry your cat is unwell
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:49 AM
Apr 2016

our cat Scout is going through his own medical woes, and has to take antibiotics and steroids 2x a day which he hates too.

How old is your kitty?

Lots of love and warm fuzzy vibes for you and your cat (poor thing, how awful to have a sore on your rump)

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
2. He's almost 15.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:58 AM
Apr 2016

So kind of old and this is actually quite common, apparently. Hopefully it will just be a pill I have to give him, although he will hate that.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
4. Our cat is 17
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

and has pancreatitis, a heart murmur (which is new - but the vet says just old age, nothing to really do anything about) and he went from 11.5 to 6.5 pounds so I know how weight loss is scary. We are trying to get him to eat, but so far he is too picky and doesn't care for the new vet diet. Most of his life, he was a good eater.. surprised he wasn't chubbier.

I prefer the syringe liquid form rather than the pill - at least with the syringe we know he gets it- a quick shot in the mouth. Pills- he spits out, hides, etc. I have 15 yr old dog on a bunch of pain meds so every night we line up like at a hospital - me, my husband, cat and dog and all of us have to take our medications before bed.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
23. If he on any kind of pain relief for the pancreatitis?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:14 PM
Apr 2016

That can be very painful and in my experience, some vets don't address the pain element. I understand their reluctance to add anything else to the mix, but there are times when a cat is in pain and will refuse to eat.

At his age, you should also check with your vet to see if it's more important that he eat whatever, as opposed to trying to get him to eat a prescription diet. I've never had luck getting any of mine to change from regular food to prescription food.

Just some random thoughts from someone who's "been there" before. Best of luck to you and your kiddos, and thank you for caring about them.

Rhiannon12866

(205,857 posts)
11. See if it comes in a liquid.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:47 PM
Apr 2016

My dog is awful with pills, just spits them out, so I always ask if I can get it in liquid when he needs meds, still not easy, but much quicker and easier...

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
25. I've had a couple of hyperthyroid cats
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

The usual pill is Tapazole which is inexpensive. I also had an old cat who had been traumatized in some way (adopted him when he was 18). He couldn't be pilled so he got methimazole (sp?) in a transdermal preparation which came in syringes and I spread a small amount on his ear every day. Transdermals can be pricey.

Rhiannon12866

(205,857 posts)
7. My cat (at age 12) also had that and the vet had me add a few drops of a liquid herb to her water
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:51 PM
Apr 2016

This particular vet uses both Eastern and Western medicine. On a subsequent check up, he said she was no longer hyperthyroid. I'm trying to remember exactly what the herb was, got it at the health food store.

Pakhet

(520 posts)
9. If you can remember, I'd like to know what herb that is
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:23 PM
Apr 2016

I have two semi feral strays that have gotten really skinny lately even though there is an abundance of food and water available to them. they don't run away very often when I approach them, but a pill isn't going to be doable and neither one has been to a vet since I spayed and released them. It's unusual for them NOT to run when I approach, at least out of reaching distance, so I know they must not feel well, but they're not going to let me pick them up either. I feel bad for them, because they're so skinny but I don't know what to do.

Rhiannon12866

(205,857 posts)
10. I'll try and give the vet a call.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:44 PM
Apr 2016

I was surprised that it worked so quickly, but this vet is quite the cat whisperer. And this was a cat who I rescued from outside, as well. I fed her (yes, turned out to be a spayed female, poor kitty!) outside until I was finally able to bring her in, but it took me borrowing a have-a-heart trap from the animal hospital to finally do it. She was very scared at first and they had to sedate her to treat her at the vet's, but it turned out she had dental issues and she practically became a lap cat after necessary dental surgery, must have been in pain before that.

Good luck with your kitties, I'll see if the animal hospital has any suggestions. I just couldn't leave this kitty outside. Winter was coming and I kept having to thaw out the food I was leaving for her. I got advice from a woman who works with and feeds ferals, said this cat was not a true feral since she let me see her, told me to hang around so she got used to me and give her a name. And to leave the trap there, too, so she got used to that and to use something like tuna with a strong smell. It took me a couple of weeks, but I finally managed. Though the first time we went to my own vet, I had to ask my friend's husband who had caught cats for the SPCA to come into my house to catch her.

Pakhet

(520 posts)
12. thanks for the advice. I may have to get a trap to get
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:03 AM
Apr 2016

them to the vet. Since I'm in AZ I don't have to worry too much about bad weather. I leave an upstairs window open into a bedroom that is for any cat that wants to come in and eat, drink and get out of the heat/cold. I've had upwards of 10 in and out at a time, but right now I just have 4 that come and go, 2 boys and 2 girls. the boys are fat and sassy and the girls are skinny and nervous. I don't get it.

Rhiannon12866

(205,857 posts)
13. It took some patience to actually get her into the trap
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:21 AM
Apr 2016

When I first put it out, my friend and I just sat and watched, silly us! But the feral cat lady was absolutely right, she was not a true feral.

After speaking with neighbors, I eventually found out that this poor kitty had belonged to a neighbor who had moved. I had known this neighbor a little since I had rescued her little dog more than once. When I found a Yorkie in my yard, I knew that he hadn't gone far, and that wasn't the only time that the pup got loose, and this neighbor was very grateful when I'd bring him home, so I don't know why she didn't alert me about the kitty.

She said she had several cats and this one must have gotten loose when she moved. Turns out this one was 12, found her records at the vet, and she must have been pretty resourceful to have survived on her own as long as she did.

Kudos to you on helping the kitties. I have another cat now, also black and also strictly indoor. I found him as a tiny kitten in the parking lot of a supermarket where I just happened to stop one night on my way home. And he wasn't easy to catch, either, took a store employee and his kind wife who was there to pick him up, could never have managed on my own since this little guy was quite determined! But he's a year old now, practically a lap cat and he's grown into a beautiful cat!

Pakhet

(520 posts)
14. my son found 3 kittens on our roof about a year ago
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:53 AM
Apr 2016

we got them fixed, of course, and were going to try to find homes for them but that didn't work so now we have 3 fixed, chipped girls at home too. I wondered if the older girls, whether they wanted to be inside or not, were upset about the kittens. The kittens stay inside mostly, though they'll go out in the backyard I've never seen them in front

Rhiannon12866

(205,857 posts)
15. Thank you for helping the kitties. They are hard to place, there are so many, heartbreaking
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:13 AM
Apr 2016

Meet Felix! This is the little guy I found in the grocery store parking lot, can't imagine what would have happened to him if I hadn't stopped at that store that night, or hadn't spotted him on the way to my car. They were doing construction at that particular store and a couple of the construction guys had attempted to catch him, but got bitten for their trouble. The vet thought he was only about seven weeks, 2.6 lbs., had no idea what he even looked like in the dark, but I think I'm the lucky one, since, at a year old, he really is beautiful, IMO, and rarely bites these days, LOL, and getting better all the time!

Felix, then and now:





Pakhet

(520 posts)
17. He was a cutie and certainly looks like the master of all he surveys
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:43 AM
Apr 2016
I haven't figured out how to post pictures yet. If I had the room or the money I'm sure I'd have every stray in Phoenix at my place. I can't stand to see anyone hungry and feed everything/one I come into contact with, to my son's embarrassment. Oh well, that's just who we are and I wouldn't do it different.

Rhiannon12866

(205,857 posts)
18. He really is a fearless little guy, but I guess he had to be
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:54 AM
Apr 2016

And I totally identify with your feelings. All my guys have had sad stories, which I try to turn into happier futures. I have mostly adopted older dogs, though the kitties probably break my heart even more. I still leave food at a place near a shopping plaza where I know a group was feeding a colony of cats, though I can't remember the last time I saw an actual cat. But as long as the food keeps disappearing, I'll probably continue to do it, just in case. I think of my guys and hate to imagine other animals on their own. We do what we can, and it's reassuring to know you're not to know you're not the only one who feels that way...

Rhiannon12866

(205,857 posts)
19. As for posting photos, if I can figure it out, anyone can, LOL
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:09 AM
Apr 2016

I actually learned how to do it right here on DU. When I was new here, there was a thread on posting pictures of your pets. I said I didn't know how, so some kind poster offered to do it for me, told me to send her the photo, so I did. And she posted my picture and told me what she did.

I use Photobucket and it's pretty easy. You can sign up for a free account and upload any photos that you have on your computer. Then you just post the link that says "Direct" (link) on that particular photo. I generally edit my pictures to make sure they're not too large, but you can always preview your post to see how they turned out.

Give it a try sometime. You can always keep previewing it if it doesn't turn out the way you intended. And you can always ask for help with it here. DUers are helpful like that.


http://s253.photobucket.com/

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
26. On my own I started putting SolidGold seameal
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:25 PM
Apr 2016
https://www.google.com/search?q=gold+seal+seaweed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#tbm=shop&q=Solid+Gold+seameal&spd=4655820374866305150

in the wet food for one of my hyperthyroid cats. The vet said it helped keep him on a low dose of Tapazole for quite a while. It contains seaweed which has idodine which is good for the thyroid.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
30. Actually no, you want to lower the amount of iodine in the diet.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

Iodine increases the production of thyroid hormone, which is what is causing the problem in the first place. It seems that those two treatments cancel each other out.

But I won't be treating him through diet anyway. For one thing, while there is a low-iodine food available, pet foods are not regulated by the FDA and so they can make whatever claims they want with no evidence needed. Plus it's very expensive.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
8. This is (I believe) normal in older cats...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:17 PM
Apr 2016

And the treatment (last time I had a hyperthyroid) is just one small pill a day. No biggie. Good luck!

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
16. If you cat has hyperthyroidism get a prescription for Methimazole
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:26 AM
Apr 2016

If the cat is allergic to Methimazole, (Braveheart was) get a radioiodine injection ASAP. I delayed and it cost Braveheart his life.

Wolf

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
20. (update)Well, he definitely has it.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016

There are 4 treatment options, one of which (surgery) is not really recommended or done anymore. So we can throw that out. So basically, three then.

A special food, which he may or may not eat. The vet said that it doesn't have much flavor and some cats just refuse it. Plus it is mega-expensive. Online retailers quote $54 per 8.5 lb. bag of dry and a similar amount for 24 cans. Each would give him enough food for approximately 2.5 weeks. Grand total for the year would be over $1000. Right now, I suppose I spend 300-400 on food annually.

Medicine. Now, it isn't fun to give a cat a pill and this would be done twice daily. Now it also comes in a transdermal patch, which my vet says is easy to use. I don't know what these cost exactly, but it looks like with the monitoring, it would be similar to the food, multiplied by however many years he lives. There are some side effects that may be unpleasant as well.

Radioiodine therapy. Said to be very effective. Only one treatment needed in most cases. Expensive, maybe $1000, but likely only a single event and it actually cures the disease.

So, I'd lean towards the last myself, but I think they normally start with medication.

On the plus side, the antibiotics appear to be working and he no longer stays mad at me after I give them to him. But we did move to a new apartment this weekend, so he is kind of mad about that! Poor thing, he's had a tough week.

Iris

(15,665 posts)
21. We had a cat with this condition.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:04 PM
Apr 2016

We gave her pills twice a day for about 5 years. If I had to do it again, I would probably go with the radioiodine, but that might depend on the cat's personality since I think there's an isolation period.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
22. Yes, there is, but it is brief.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:54 AM
Apr 2016

The difficulty will be keeping him away from us for that time. He likes to cuddle with us on the couch.

I'm certainly leaning towards this because it is more cost-effective than the food ($1400 a year for however many years he lives) or even the drugs, depending on how long he lives). And of course, giving a cat pills is no fun.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
24. We've done the iodine treatment.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:18 PM
Apr 2016

Yes, expensive, but was very effective. One of our cats had this when she was about 15, and lived another five years without any issues.

There are few vets that have this therapy available in their offices, but we were lucky in that our specialist vet had it. Cat had to stay at the office a couple of days because of risk of exposure, which the vet said was absolutely stupid, but he was required by law to do it.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
29. There are a couple of places in Baltimore, but none here.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:58 AM
Apr 2016

That's not terribly far away. In any case, I think he gets the medicine first and we'll do that for a few weeks or months to see if he has any other issues.

 

KartBlanche

(28 posts)
27. I lost my cat 2 months ago - 20 years old!!
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:41 PM
Apr 2016

The vet diagnosed hyperthyroidism. Could NOT get him (Hunter, the cat) to take pills- twas a pain in the butt.
The vet prescribed a paste that I rubbed inside his ear once a day...transdermal...but, alas, he was too far along in a variety of maladies. I treated him for about 5 months with that medicine. Poor guy was so emaciated I could feel every bone in his body.
I couldn't let it go on and he was euthanized back in January. He had gone from a 10 pound cat down to 5 and a half.
Miss him.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
28. I'm sorry to hear this.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:55 AM
Apr 2016

Buddy is 14 now. We are going to try the medicine (not sure if it will be the pill or the patch) first. We have to, in any case, to see if he has any other issues like kidney disease.

He'e been tolerating the antibiotics quite well this week. It's a liquid form and I barely have to restrain him. But pills are another matter.

benld74

(9,909 posts)
31. Our Boots was diagnosed in this same manner.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:24 AM
Apr 2016

Vet gave 2 options, pills or ointment which could be rubbed into her ear. I chose the latter. She ate alot, drank alot, still lost weight. She craved fresh water. Good luck

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