On Daylight Savings Time: Help me settle an argument? Edit: settled

[Populist_Prole]

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Well, more like a "friendly discussion" with my GF.

She thinks I'm nuts to believe we "lose" an hour of sleep on the saturday night/sunday morning of its implementation, and claims the day is no longer or shorter than any other.

I claim that while the actual "day" may be the same, the day that is governed by time is essentially only 23 hours during the day of the transition to DST. If one has to wake up sunday morning at a DST adjusted 8 am after going to bed at midnight, only 7 actual hours will elapse. It's mathematical, isn't it?

She thinks I'm wrong as rain.

I think she's obtuse ( in THIS case )

Who is right?

[PoliticAverse]

1. You are correct. You get 1-hour less of sleep.

If you compared the time you wake up with a clock which isn't changed you'll
see you are actually waking up 1-hour earlier.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. you are

Break it to her gently!

[Populist_Prole]

3. Ah, therein lies the challenge!

My predictions:

If I let her be "right", it'll be just another example of me backing down to keep the peace.

If I assert the discussion more foreceful and categorically, I'll be a bully that is so desperate to be right, that I have to re-pick an argument over a relatively trivial matter.

Ahhh, human nature.

[annabanana]

4. It depends on whether or not you order your life around

clocks.. as most people with jobs do.

Us retired folk don't care one was or another, unless we're trying to meet up with someone.

I'm lucky I can keep track of what DAY it is, nevermind the time.

[Tikki]

5. The sun sets later in the day...at least here on the West Coast ;)

I like that a lot. With all the other issues surrounding the daylight savings time scheme, I like the Summer sun to appear to set later.

Tikki

[Populist_Prole]

6. I like that part too....for now

This is really the sweet spot of the year, especially with me being a late riser. I couldn't care less about the later sunrise, but the sun stays up longer and the miserable heat & humidity have yet to show up.

it's just that the first DST day leaves me foggy in the morning, since my work schedule means I don't get to bed till after midnight, and I don't have weekends off.

[valerief]

7. Reframe the discussion about DST. Not the loss of an hour of sleep but an hour gained to make

rich people richer.

https://danthemantrivia.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/dont-blame-farmers-for-daylight-saving-time/

You might ask, “Why did bankers care about Daylight Saving?” One word: Arbitrage. Arbitrage occurs when a broker buys a security or commodity in one market and then immediately sells it in another market to take advantage of a price discrepency. In his book, Downing notes that trading at the New York Stock Exchange began at 9 a.m., which was 2 p.m. in London. That gave New York brokers 1 hour to make arbitrage trades before the London Stock Exchange closed at 3 p.m. After the war, Americans went back to Standard time, while the British still observed Daylight Saving time, thus eliminating the “arbitrage hour.” Once New York adopted DST, Boston, Philadelphia and Cleveland quickly followed suit so their stock exchanges were not at a disadvantage.

http://columbiaspectator.com/2006/04/04/cooking-clocks

The thing was, Britain was still on daylight saving time. And when New York City set its clocks ahead to match, there was an hour in which both the British and American stock exchanges were open, and Wall Street traders stood to make a lot of money each day through arbitrage between the markets.

[Populist_Prole]

9. Interesting!

But playing that angle may open up another unwanted clam: She's a republican; she liked Chrsitie the most.

[valerief]

10. Republican? Oh, pal, you've lost before you've even started! nt

[Populist_Prole]

11. Yeah

[LiberalElite]

8. You are. adding a link to CNN - mentions sleep deprivation and DST

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/health/daylight-saving-time-health-effects/

snip
(CNN)Daylight saving time is Sunday, and losing sleep after clocks "spring forward" an hour could be more than just an annoyance. This small time shift can significantly raise the risk of health-related issues.
How to best prepare for time change

A recent study found that the overall rate for stroke was 8% higher in the two days after daylight saving time. Cancer victims were 25% more likely to have a stroke during that time, and people older than 65 were 20% more likely to have a stroke.
snip

[pokerfan]

12. I hope you DST lovers are happy

For some reason, no one ever considers DST's climate effects...

No one except for a couple of brave writers to the editor...

[Iris]

14. oh, dear God.

The stupid burns like that extra hour of sun created by the government.

[Populist_Prole]

13. Epilogue

She agreed that it was in fact intrinsically so ( reluctantly ) but wriggled out a face-saving qualifier that it only applied to "people who make a big deal about an hour, and they need to get a grip".

Not exactly a "touche", but at least I retained my honor.

Thanks for the input all.