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kentauros

(29,414 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:27 PM Feb 2016

"Serious" Movies You Can't Take Seriously Now Due to Parody Movies

After partly watching/listening to "Young Frankenstein" this evening, I am reminded of how I have tried to watch "Bride of Frankenstein." Well, I can't take it seriously at all. I'm thinking of scenes from YF constantly

Same for "Zero Hour!" with Dana Andrews, the film that gave us "Airplane!" (even the exclamation point!)


So, what else has been "ruined" by brilliant parody films?

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"Serious" Movies You Can't Take Seriously Now Due to Parody Movies (Original Post) kentauros Feb 2016 OP
"Walk The Line" which spawned "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story" Initech Feb 2016 #1
I'm not familiar with either of them, kentauros Feb 2016 #2
Walk The Line is about Johnny Cash. Initech Feb 2016 #4
I watched "Ray" a couple of weeks ago, kentauros Feb 2016 #6
John C. Reilly is absolutely hilarious in this movie. Initech Feb 2016 #9
Okay, I'm going to write those down, kentauros Feb 2016 #10
Hunt down "Hard Eight" TexasBushwhacker Feb 2016 #11
Another "Hard" movie! kentauros Feb 2016 #12
I wonder if there are more movies ruined by sequels than parodies. PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #3
Perhaps. kentauros Feb 2016 #5
Oh interesting, I'll have to find and watch "Zero Hour!" then. PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #7
Yeah, it's rare that sequels are even as good as the original, kentauros Feb 2016 #8
The producers of Airplane were able to use most of the Zero Hour script 47of74 Feb 2016 #13
You weren't kidding about the "direct parody", someone with a lot of time on their hands made this.. PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #14
See what I mean? kentauros Feb 2016 #15
Fantastic. Thanks. trof Feb 2016 #17
That made my day. Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2016 #18
Brilliant! mackerel Feb 2016 #21
It's a great comparison Tab Feb 2016 #24
No movies, but "What's Opera, Doc?" ruined any Wagner opera. sarge43 Feb 2016 #16
What about "The Rabbit of Seville" and Rossini? kentauros Feb 2016 #28
Always delightful, but sarge43 Feb 2016 #29
Jones did seem to do well adapting operas. kentauros Feb 2016 #30
Great minds sarge43 Feb 2016 #31
"Jones was the Mark Twain of animators" kentauros Feb 2016 #32
Thanks. Sacred cows? Nail 'em all. sarge43 Feb 2016 #33
How about a commercial that ruined Pagliacci? Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2016 #19
OMG! That was great! TuxedoKat Feb 2016 #22
That was a hoot! Tab Feb 2016 #25
Seinfeld also ruined Pagliacci. Initech Feb 2016 #34
'Downfall' is a great movie but the parodies of a scene in it are getting old Populist_Prole Feb 2016 #20
I do want to see Downfall kentauros Feb 2016 #27
The Republican debates? Tab Feb 2016 #23
Zorro, The gay Blade El Supremo Feb 2016 #26
James Bond films Mendocino Feb 2016 #35

Initech

(100,087 posts)
1. "Walk The Line" which spawned "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story"
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:38 PM
Feb 2016

Walk Hard skewered the musical biopic genre so badly that it's near impossible to take any of them seriously anymore. Here's a clip:



kentauros

(29,414 posts)
2. I'm not familiar with either of them,
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:47 PM
Feb 2016

but I think I'd watch "Walk Hard" without knowing the other one. It looks hilarious!

And I'd add that "This Is Spinal Tap" also ruined any of the previous rock-biopics, such as "A Hard Day's Night"

Initech

(100,087 posts)
4. Walk The Line is about Johnny Cash.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:07 AM
Feb 2016

It helps to see at least Walk The Line or even Ray before seeing Walk Hard, because Walk Hard borrows heavily from Walk The Line.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
6. I watched "Ray" a couple of weeks ago,
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:09 AM
Feb 2016

so I'd probably do well with "Walk Hard." Plus, I like the actor playing Dewey

But, I do like Johnny Cash, so will probably see that biopic, too.

Initech

(100,087 posts)
9. John C. Reilly is absolutely hilarious in this movie.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:46 AM
Feb 2016

And it's easily the best thing he's ever done. Maybe Stepbrothers is a close second, but Walk Hard is such an awesome parody. It's practically a scene for scene remake of Walk The Line. Tim Meadows and Jack Black are also pretty damn funny in this movie.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
10. Okay, I'm going to write those down,
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:55 AM
Feb 2016

and put 'em on Netflix

Reilly had a small part in "Guardians of the Galaxy" and he was funny in it, too. I haven't seen everything he's done, but have always enjoyed his roles.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. I wonder if there are more movies ruined by sequels than parodies.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:56 PM
Feb 2016

And I always thought Airplane was the parody of the Airport series of movies.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
5. Perhaps.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:07 AM
Feb 2016

But I'm thinking of serious movies directly ruined by parodies, not badly-produced/directed sequels

"Airplane!" was a direct parody of "Zero Hour!" due to the fact that the producers bought the rights to the movie so that they could pattern "Airplane!" almost scene for scene. The "Airport" movies are just a happy accident in parody-similarity

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
7. Oh interesting, I'll have to find and watch "Zero Hour!" then.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:26 AM
Feb 2016

There are some original movies that I find hard to watch after a bad sequel ruined the original story.
Sometimes a happy or ambiguous ending in the original is tainted by the sequel's version of subsequent events.

It could be argued that some sequels are effectively parodies of the original.



kentauros

(29,414 posts)
8. Yeah, it's rare that sequels are even as good as the original,
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:34 AM
Feb 2016

though there are always exceptions to that (like "The Empire Strikes Back".) Others have just gone on too long as sequels that there's no relationship to the original other than the central figure (horror series, for example.) Everything else has gone to pot.

One good example of a sequel being a parody of the original is the late-70s "Dawn of the Dead." Midnight-movie-madness and camp-city!

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
13. The producers of Airplane were able to use most of the Zero Hour script
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:16 AM
Feb 2016

Since Paramount owned Zero Hour the producers were able to take most of the Zero Hour script and adapt it for their ends. They made some adjustments but otherwise the basic premise of the story was the same.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
15. See what I mean?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:55 AM
Feb 2016


And that person also had to have the stamina to keep from laughing too much to get it done

Tab

(11,093 posts)
24. It's a great comparison
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:46 AM
Feb 2016

and took a lot of time, but you have to recognize that the same person wrote both films. Basically Airplane was a 20-year-later rewrite of Zero Hour.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
29. Always delightful, but
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:57 AM
Feb 2016

given Wagner's pomposity, a target rich environment perfect for Jones' genius. The horse as substitute for the standard Wagnerian diva.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
30. Jones did seem to do well adapting operas.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:05 AM
Feb 2016

And for classical music that will be forever associated with something animated for me, is Beethoven's 6th Symphony "The Pastoral" and the same section in "Fantasia." But it's not really ruined for me. I just consider it another work of art using a masterpiece of music. Even before seeing Fantasia, I still felt the same swells of emotion in the same places as accompanied in the movie. I'm happy with that likely permanent association

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
31. Great minds
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:14 AM
Feb 2016

The 6th is my favorite, too. The pegasi sweeping over the landscape still dazzles me. The other thing about the 6th; Beethoven had just lost most of his hearing, yet he could still write that joyous music.

Jones was the Mark Twain of animators

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
32. "Jones was the Mark Twain of animators"
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:21 AM
Feb 2016

I like that!

I will also admit that I can't remember my reaction to "Dance of the Hours" before I ever saw "Fantasia." It may have just been, "That's a light and happy piece." Now it's, "Dancing hippos! Dancing ostriches! Dancing crocodiles!" and it makes me smile

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
33. Thanks. Sacred cows? Nail 'em all.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:35 AM
Feb 2016

My Dance of the Hours moment was the hippo's running leap at the alligator and the gator's expression. The Mouse could bring the funny once in awhile.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
20. 'Downfall' is a great movie but the parodies of a scene in it are getting old
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:24 PM
Feb 2016

You know the scene, it's a re-edited version when Hitler finally comes unglued with the reality of the third reich's hopeless situation as he maniacally blames his staff. The substitles are changed to refect whatever funny meme they want to push; politics, video games, pop-culture...whatever.

Fun is fun, but all but very few who tell me about "a funny video you have to watch" or send me links ever heard of the original film. Most of them are rubes that stay away from anything that's not some big-time action blockbuster, or shy away from foreign language films.

Sucks to see such a good film "cheapened".

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
27. I do want to see Downfall
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 06:03 AM
Feb 2016

even though I've seen that clip of his meltdown re-titled so often like you mentioned. Because I love the actor that plays Hitler, Bruno Ganz. It's interesting that he took the role, considering he's mostly known in this country for his role as the angel Damiel in the Wim Wenders film "Der Himmel Uber Berlin" (renamed in the US as "Wings of Desire".)

I've read that his portrayal of Hitler was the most authentic version ever. I think I can ignore the "Hitler Rant" videos enough to still enjoy his performance, once I rent it

Mendocino

(7,496 posts)
35. James Bond films
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:46 PM
Feb 2016

after the Austin Powers franchise. Even Daniel Craig can't save these turkeys anymore.

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