O.K.,here's an off(Lounge)topic,relationship/40yrs/90-10%balance,with a New Rule,what would YOUdo?!1

[UTUSN]

Here's the deal. Companionship is a lot, better than sex, more than intellectual matching, more than (what else is there).

There's a song in Spanish "Costumbres" (Habits) sung by glorious, world class diva Rocio DURCAL. Ordinarily lyrics are meaningless to me with MELODY being *all* but when the two things come together it's gigantic, so the lyrics say "It's true that habit is much stronger than love." (Great brass dramatic exit.)

O.K., let's cut to the chase. I'm the 90% of the whole deal. I don't mind it, it's great, well, better than never mind.

There's Fundamentalist crap involved. However, it has been more mildly irritating than a Biggie. Since I'm a secular humanist, I don't care so long as I'm not jerked around.

However, today I made some squash with pork chop chunks. Delicious. We all had a good Noon meal. Lots of leftovers. Then tonight I'm informed, "Well, you're going to have plenty to eat because I won't eat pork anymore."

Do you know what I did? I took the whole big bowl to the neighbors and told them I want the bowl back.

I'm tired of this crap, but then, I'm sure we all are and Lounge deserves better.

[hay rick]

1. Bring out the big gun

So your companion ate pork in the afternoon and swore off it in the evening? Suggest you cook bacon in the morning. "Fighting fair is for losers"...Donald Trump.

[UTUSN]

2. I survived? the '70s when Scientology & JesusFreeks swamped everything.

But I've gotta say modern Fundamentalists are really irritating.

[LanternWaste]

6. Especially political fundamentalists.

"say modern Fundamentalists are really irritating."

Especially political fundamentalists.

[OxQQme]

13. I survived the 'Elvis is Satan personified' era.

Whew..........

[mackerel]

3. If my man said that to me, I'd say fine then more for me.

[jmowreader]

4. Why won't she eat pork anymore?

[UTUSN]

5. Fundamentalist religion. Pentacostal. Over the past 20 yrs their whole family has

converted, a straggler here and there, but eventually all. I amaze myself, not in a good way, that I have considered myself to be a secular humanist since my late teens and that I have ended up with religious Fundamentalists. At the beginning they started to attack Catholicism and I told them that even though I am Lapsed I didn't want to hear their junk against the Virgin Mary and statue/idol-worship, that I wouldn't attack their thing and didn't want to hear their attacks on whomever (Mormons and Witnesses are also on their enemies' list). And they have pretty much abided by keeping their beliefs to themselves in my presence. It has impacted me peripherally, like their schedule of church time takes precedence over anything of mine that might come up: Saturdays/Sundays all morning until around 2 P.M., Thursday evenings, plus certain yearly days (do they call them "holidays"?).

What has seeped toward me is that they are vociferous about Bible prophecies and actively WANT the end-of-days so that their Christ will come. And they disdain "things of THIS world, MUSIC of this world." Oddly (to me), they have adapted popular genres of music with lyrics, such that, if you don't pay attention to the words you'd think you were listening to "regular" music. But above all they seem to be PINCHED in their fraternal bonds to others. They are big on donating to their preachers, do fundraising, and after their church services meet at fast food places where they get free coffee, reaping whatever anybody wants to give them but I have not heard of their doing things for others. It was cold when a young member of their family went to prison and I suggested we visit him and their answer was a total NO. In my Lapsed Catholicism, visiting prisoners and poor was at least lip service.

So back to my main gripe, that I/SecularHumanist ended up impacted by this stuff. Religion was the earliest invention of us, and even if our physical evolution is only a speck of time, it looks like it can be the end of us, too. What would a meme be, something like, you can take evolution out of religion but you can't take the religion out of evolution?!1

[OriginalGeek]

11. I was raised fundamentalist baptist

which is one incomprehensible rant away from being Pentecostal. (we actually thought Pentecostals were a little too liberal for our tastes) but I don't recall any prohibition on pork.

Good lord, if you wanted to start a war just try to take their bacon and sausage away.


Is porklessness something new to them?

I remember the pastor of the church that ran the christian school I went to telling us in Bible class that christian rock was still rock and therefor still a sin and not christian at all.

Other than speaking in tongues the core beliefs are nearly identical. Except those backsliders let their young men part their hair in the middle instead of on the side like good christian heterosexual men should.

[jmowreader]

12. I'm a little confused...

I used to know several fundamentalist Pentecostals who owned barbecue restaurants in NC...where, of course, The Only Meat To Use was pork.

[UTUSN]

14. *Glad* you're confused because *I* am, *MORE*!1 & our confusion explains my erratic posts

Because my fly-off-the-handle O.P.(s) are the result of *MY* being confused and trying to make sense of things.


So. I don't know crap about this Fundie deal, and all my posts are about being FACED with what FACES me. They tell me (junk that doesn't make sense to me), I feel myself CONFUSED therefore I post weird erratic things. I'm more of a reporter.

As far as your own life experience with personally knowing other anecdoctal persons differing from mine, all I can say is that I don't like being surprised by who/what smaks *ME* in MY face, which is why I come here to Lounge and am basically saying, "Huh?!1 Whaaaa?!1 Why ME???????!1 and Me-no-likee!1" So. anyway. I hope this thread is over.

[noamnety]

7. The diet wouldn't bother me.

But I'm in a family of diet restrictions, my daughter went vegetarian, then vegan. My sister has gone around vegan, macrobiotic, raw foods. I've done low carbing. It's all good. I would have just saved the pork for myself, not given it away.

The fundie thing - ooof, I don't know. I married someone who is religious and I'm not - and their religion is one that supports some types of bigotry. But they personally didn't. Eventually the disconnect between the church and their own beliefs drove them away from their church. That's something a person has to come to on their own though.

I couldn't handle a relationship with someone who is right wing fundie in a way that makes them racist/homophobic/sexist, though.

[GOLGO 13]

8. So strange. I've found that quite a few fundy women that I've personally gotten to know under 50

Were by & large deeply in the closet very, very sexually liberated. As long as you kept your end of the bargain...guaranteed booty call but only on the down low.

[malthaussen]

9. It's all in the presentation...

... which is apposite, since you use a video accent.

The rules seem to have changed rather quickly, if what was fair at lunch is foul at dinner. But so long as there is no judgement on you for eating the tabu substance, so long as the attitude is not condemnatory or minatory, then there would seem to be no problem. If, however, this is an ongoing undercurrent of discontent -- as implied in "I'm tired of this crap," then the problem lies not in the diet, but in the relationship.

-- Mal

[UTUSN]

10. They seem to be under the leadership of one of the older siblings. I suspect the difference between

Noon and evening was an intervening consultation with the ignorant old bird. Even though it's been years, I don't recall forbidden foods being a prominent topic of interest before now.

They seem to be largely willing to keep their practices and beliefs within their own group, unless a "discussion" starts up with us outsiders, fairly much PREFERRING their self-isolation as a sign of their chosen-ness and special-ness.

[lastlib]

15. More bacon for you--what's the problem?

[UTUSN]

16. As a farewell to this thread (I hope), I'll have Ms Taylor SWIFT explain: