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UTUSN

(70,696 posts)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:21 PM Feb 2016

So I gave BEETHOVEN a chance. If this doesn't unleash wrath on me nothing will.

From the internet know-it-alls/gourmet/connoisseurs, yadda yadda "the LATE quartets" the "GROSSE FUGUE" yeah right. Ptooie.

If I've said it once I've said it a million times: Melody MELODY *MELODY*!1 So I DELETED those ahead-their-time things.

The Civilized will be glad to know I am listening to the TUNEFUL things right now, the violin sonata/concerto, the piano Emperor. That's what I'm talking about, soon back to my lateR Romantics (you know what I'm talking about, Pyotr).

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So I gave BEETHOVEN a chance. If this doesn't unleash wrath on me nothing will. (Original Post) UTUSN Feb 2016 OP
O.K., I cave and go wild with the crowd. I'm so commercial. The "Emperor" is up (*next* after this: UTUSN Feb 2016 #1
Whatever blows your skirt up. I like the late quartets The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #2
Why would a piano put up with following a long, GLORIOUS orchestral "introduction" (Emperor). UTUSN Feb 2016 #3
Sometimes Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #10
This might help you appreciate Beethoven more: kentauros Feb 2016 #4
Bobby Cornu really flubbed that entrance! He might get traded! Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #11
It looks like we have an injury in the bass section. kentauros Feb 2016 #12
Poor guy could not hold it together for that sequence. malthaussen Feb 2016 #15
French grip or German grip? Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #17
Actually, I'm hearing some TCHAIKOVSKY here UTUSN Feb 2016 #5
Beethoven was a punk BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #6
Bwah-HAH Thanks!1 Let it be known to Lounge that I am not a total barbarian, UTUSN Feb 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Feb 2016 #7
*Don't* I?!1 Or... UTUSN Feb 2016 #9
Ode to Joy kentauros Feb 2016 #13
A modest appeal to the Highest Authorities of Lounge: An emoticon for Tongue-in-Cheek UTUSN Feb 2016 #14
On a more serious note, I was listening to the Chailly/LGO versions recently... malthaussen Feb 2016 #16
Oh. I thought you meant the movie about the dog. KamaAina Feb 2016 #18
You "get" me, you really really "get" me!1 n/t UTUSN Feb 2016 #19

UTUSN

(70,696 posts)
1. O.K., I cave and go wild with the crowd. I'm so commercial. The "Emperor" is up (*next* after this:
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:40 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:31 AM - Edit history (1)

What "caving and going with the crowd" meant was abandoning the arcanely sophisticated Late works in favor of the "popular" stuff. *Stuff*!1 Did I call Ludwig's oeuvre *STUFF* like so much crayon-on-the-frig?!1

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
2. Whatever blows your skirt up. I like the late quartets
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:45 PM
Feb 2016

and the last piano sonatas, Ops. 109, 110 and 111. And Fidelio.

UTUSN

(70,696 posts)
3. Why would a piano put up with following a long, GLORIOUS orchestral "introduction" (Emperor).
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:47 PM
Feb 2016

Can it handle it?!1 Looks like we have a YES!1

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
10. Sometimes
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:04 AM
Feb 2016

I play the easier piano sonatas. Easy is a relative term. I don't think they are easy, and I will never play them as fast as a professional does. But they are satisfying. Plus the Pathetique Sonata. My first love in piano composition is the Chopin Waltzes. I worked on them as a 12-year-old and I know several of them very well. My second love is Mendelssohn (songs without words, Volume 6.)

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
12. It looks like we have an injury in the bass section.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:11 AM
Feb 2016

It looks like it's a groin injury, Pete! That's what happens when the basses get too close together.

UTUSN

(70,696 posts)
8. Bwah-HAH Thanks!1 Let it be known to Lounge that I am not a total barbarian,
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:32 AM
Feb 2016

that OF COURSE I am familiar and amazed with the predictable popular MASSIVE parts I know, but I've been AWAY and out of touch for decades - nay, SCORES. My final pronouncement is not "slowness" but rather: Stateliness, more than I've been accustomed to in the interim.

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UTUSN

(70,696 posts)
14. A modest appeal to the Highest Authorities of Lounge: An emoticon for Tongue-in-Cheek
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:34 AM
Feb 2016

(or tongue/somewhere)

malthaussen

(17,199 posts)
16. On a more serious note, I was listening to the Chailly/LGO versions recently...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:48 AM
Feb 2016

... the faster tempi really make a difference. They seem to emphasize the point that Ludwig was a revolutionary composer, overturning long-established practice.

-- Mal

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