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Baitball Blogger

(46,719 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 01:29 PM Nov 2015

Music from the fifties sung by female singers compared to today's female vocal artists.

We landed on a Christmas radio channel that played nothing but golden oldies and the thought that came to mind when I listened to some of the female singers (Not all) is that there was a certain playful seduction going on in their voices. It wasn't by any stretch a strong feminist pov, imo. But something that was more acceptable of that era.

Anyone listen to music enough to pick up on similar nuances? How have songs written for female singers changed in over sixty years in the music industry? Of course, the point of much commercial music is meant to appeal to the listener. Maybe that's the difference.

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Music from the fifties sung by female singers compared to today's female vocal artists. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 OP
I refuse to listen to 99% of it now. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #1
I stumbled on a jazz station this weekend OriginalGeek Nov 2015 #2
Yeah, I'm a little over Adele's Hello, from the other side. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #3
Torch singing malthaussen Nov 2015 #4
thanks! OriginalGeek Dec 2015 #17
Always loved Keely Smith. BlueJazz Nov 2015 #5
Todays music can't touch the stuff in the 60's and 70's. panader0 Nov 2015 #6
Case in point: Annie Haslam, "Renaissance". Case closed. lastlib Dec 2015 #11
I prefer real singers Mendocino Nov 2015 #7
I'll take real emotion over perfect pitch any day TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #12
Madonna started all this. Kingofalldems Nov 2015 #8
I love the female singers of that era CrawlingChaos Nov 2015 #9
I suppose that's true if you're only comparing to modern pop music. kentauros Nov 2015 #10
Sarah Vaughan. Ron Green Dec 2015 #13
A few authentic tunes: NBachers Dec 2015 #14
I remember Joan Baez, Joni Mitchell, Janis ian, Janis Joplin, Bonnie Raitt... Tipperary Dec 2015 #15
My main music these days is KCSM- a non-commercial jazz station out of San Mateo California NBachers Dec 2015 #16
Early '60's but close.....The Shangri La mrmpa Dec 2015 #18
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
1. I refuse to listen to 99% of it now.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 01:58 PM
Nov 2015

I don't want to see anybody shaking their butt and "twerking".

I don't want to hear about "bitches and hos". Nope.

I don't want to see some woman dancing on stage and showing us her (clothed) vagina like the men are all supposed to jump on her.

There's sexy and there is really vulgar.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
2. I stumbled on a jazz station this weekend
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:18 PM
Nov 2015

and kind of just stayed there. I don't know who was singing but i heard some pretty awesome old-timey loungey kinda tunes. Not sure what that's called - women singing slow and sultry over bouncing bass and intricate piano/sax/trumpet jazz. It shows up in my head as black and white, smokey lowly-lit dives. I loved it. Wish I knew more about it so I could investigate what to investigate.


It was awfully nice to hear the jazz to break up the 57thousand times I heard Adele sing hello from the other side. (And I love Adele - I think she's beautiful and talented but enough is enough already)(My wife bought the album and was playing it constantly on her iPad as she prepared thanksgiving food)

Baitball Blogger

(46,719 posts)
3. Yeah, I'm a little over Adele's Hello, from the other side.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 04:12 PM
Nov 2015

Gruesome good talent, but that song is what you would expect a contestant on a music competition would select to show he or she has range.

malthaussen

(17,200 posts)
4. Torch singing
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 05:20 PM
Nov 2015

That's one part of it, although a song like "Baby it's Cold Outside" doesn't quite fit in that category.

-- Mal

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
17. thanks!
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 01:28 PM
Dec 2015

I've heard that term before but I guess I never really thought about it what it meant. I already love Coltrane, Brubeck, Miles, Oscar Peterson and stuff like that but freely admit I am under-educated in the field.

I wish there were clubs around I could go see live real jazz. Imagine walking into a nightclub and John Coltrane was playing! How do I get some of that feel in modern times?

lastlib

(23,239 posts)
11. Case in point: Annie Haslam, "Renaissance". Case closed.
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:11 AM
Dec 2015

NO better voice in rock music. Not Ann Wilson. Not Stevie Nicks. Not Linda Ronstadt, Certainly not Pat Benatar.

"Ashes Are Burning," "Mother Russia," "Northern Lights." Exhibits, A, B, C. Case closed.

Mendocino

(7,495 posts)
7. I prefer real singers
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 06:06 PM
Nov 2015

to Auto-Tune. I listened to "Walking After Midnight" by Patsy Cline earlier today. No butt shaking, no tongue waggling, just incredible talent and presence. Call me old fashioned.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,192 posts)
12. I'll take real emotion over perfect pitch any day
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:59 AM
Dec 2015

And miss good old AOR, when they would play any track off an album instead of just the singles.

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
9. I love the female singers of that era
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 08:16 PM
Nov 2015

To me their voices seem more pure, more pleasantly lilting. And they seem more about the song and less about showing off their own range, which comes off as obnoxious caterwauling, at least in my opinion.

For example I think Peggy Lee was perfection ... I never get tired of her.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
10. I suppose that's true if you're only comparing to modern pop music.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:44 PM
Nov 2015

Not so for my favorite female vocalists in world music:










NBachers

(17,116 posts)
14. A few authentic tunes:
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 04:42 AM
Dec 2015

Sarah Vaughan's "Broken Hearted Melody" shows what she's capable of, with nice visuals in this YouTube track:



Mary Ann Fisher (a Raelette) tore her heart out in 1961 with "I Can't Take It"


Damita Jo answered Ben E King's "Stand By Me" with "I'll Be There" in 1961:


I prefer stuff that was sung into a classic microphone:
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
15. I remember Joan Baez, Joni Mitchell, Janis ian, Janis Joplin, Bonnie Raitt...
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 05:51 AM
Dec 2015

None of today's female singers come close.

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