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Bucky

(54,014 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:24 AM Nov 2015

How did Poseidon, of all gods, end up as the patron god of HORSES?!

He's the SEA god, for gosh sakes; I mean, it's not like we're talking about sea horses. It's just regular ol' hoof horses, right? It seems like Olympus needs some serious reorganization.

This is Poseidon


But this makes no sense
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How did Poseidon, of all gods, end up as the patron god of HORSES?! (Original Post) Bucky Nov 2015 OP
Because he really liked horses... blogslut Nov 2015 #1
l'gasp!! Bucky Nov 2015 #2
neigh, but I am blogslut Nov 2015 #3
Because of sea horses? nt raccoon Nov 2015 #4
I thought about that, but I'm not sure how well obscure life forms were known at that time Bucky Nov 2015 #7
"Oarses! I said I wanted to be the patron god of OARSES, dammit!" pinboy3niner Nov 2015 #5
!! Bucky Nov 2015 #6
Because frogmarch Nov 2015 #8
very interesting Bucky Nov 2015 #9
He was also the earthquake god cemaphonic Nov 2015 #10
HE REALLY HATES horses... yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #11
That's not Poseidon. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2015 #18
The comparison between breakers and horses the second portrait alludes to is the reason Recursion Dec 2015 #12
*Never* question the ancient Greeks!1 K?!1 n/t UTUSN Dec 2015 #13
Because as a Sea God there was NEVER any chance of him having to shovel out a stable. denbot Dec 2015 #14
Here's how I see it. aidbo Dec 2015 #15
Why is he god of storms? white_wolf Dec 2015 #16
Hey I don't make the ancient myth rules, aidbo Dec 2015 #20
Thunder. He stole Zeus's thunder. n/t malthaussen Dec 2015 #24
He was Captain Jinks of the Horse Marines!. . annabanana Dec 2015 #17
SEAHORSES Angry Dragon Dec 2015 #19
Duuno, but it is a common theme. The Celtic sea god, Manannán mac Lir FSogol Dec 2015 #21
Because you can lead a horse to water Generic Brad Dec 2015 #22
His birth has a connection to horses: kentauros Dec 2015 #23

Bucky

(54,014 posts)
7. I thought about that, but I'm not sure how well obscure life forms were known at that time
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:51 PM
Nov 2015

In looking up more about it, I found that Poseidon seems to be an ancient adaptation of pre-migration protoGreek tribes (descendents of the Achaeans who moved from the central steppes into today's Greece & Anatolia) and was probably originally a god of thunder and horses (not a tough association if you think about what being in the middle of stampeded might feel like). His worship is probably older than that of Zeus--note how he is the central player, alongside Athena & Hera, in the Illiad & Odyssey--and at one time was probably the central god of the Achaean pantheon. Giving him domain over the oceans, they theorize, was part of a compromise as the tribes of the region blended pantheons and oral traditions with the Mycenaeans and other Mediterranean tribes before the development of writing.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
8. Because
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:52 PM
Nov 2015
At one point he desired Demeter. To deter him, Demeter asked him to make the most beautiful animal that the world had ever seen. So, in an effort to impress her, Poseidon created the first horse. In some accounts, his first attempts were unsuccessful and created a variety of other animals in his quest; thus, by the time the horse was created, his passion for Demeter had diminished.

http://www.greekmythology.com/Olympians/Poseidon/poseidon.html

And there we have it.

Bucky

(54,014 posts)
9. very interesting
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:56 PM
Nov 2015

although I was looking for a more anthropological (and not so mythological) answer, this is a charming story. And what a contrast to the way Zeus did his courting by deception and date-raping

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
10. He was also the earthquake god
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:56 PM
Nov 2015

When that would have been a more sensible role for Hades, or perhaps Hephaestus.

Maybe he was just greedy. Even by Greek God standards, he always comes across as a giant asshole with a chip on his shoulder.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. The comparison between breakers and horses the second portrait alludes to is the reason
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:47 AM
Dec 2015

Proto-Indo-Europeans knew about horses but not oceans. So when they saw oceans (like, say in Greece, but also in India and Iran) they compared them to the only other really really powerful thing they knew: horses.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
14. Because as a Sea God there was NEVER any chance of him having to shovel out a stable.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 12:35 AM
Dec 2015

Clever, very clever!

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
15. Here's how I see it.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 01:14 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:56 PM - Edit history (1)

According to Wikipedia (which I'll use as an ok source for this) He's the God of the sea, earthquakes, storms, and horses. So.... All of those things can be said to shake the earth.

Earth quakes - obviously.

The pounding waves of the sea can be felt on the shore. The storms that roar, crack and thunder the islands shake the earth.

And a herd of horses galloping could shake the earth as well.


white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
16. Why is he god of storms?
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:11 PM
Dec 2015

Did he just steal Zeus's job? Actually, he'd probably do better than Zeus. Zeus always came across as the most petty of the Greek Gods.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
21. Duuno, but it is a common theme. The Celtic sea god, Manannán mac Lir
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 09:56 PM
Dec 2015

also had a horse named Enbarr that pulled his boat.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
23. His birth has a connection to horses:
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 10:44 PM
Dec 2015
[font size="3"]Poseidon[/font]

According to others, he was concealed by Rhea, after his birth, among a flock of lambs, and his mother pretended to have given birth to a young horse, which she gave to Cronos to devour.


And then there's the fact that he's the creator of the horse:

He was further regarded as the creator of the horse, and was accordingly believed to have taught men the art of managing horses by the bridle, and to have been the originator and protector of horse races. (Hom. Il. xxiii. 307, 584; Pind. Pyth. vi.50 ; Soph. Oed. Col. 712, &c.) Hence he was also represented on horseback, or riding in a chariot drawn by two or four horses, and is designated by the epithets hippios, hippeios, or hippios anax. (Paus. i. 30. § 4, viii. 25. § 5, vi. 20. § 8, viii. 37. § 7 ; Eurip. Phoen. 1707; comp. Liv. i. 9, where he is called equester.) In consequence of his connection with the horse, he was regarded as the friend of charioteers (Pind. Ol. i. 63, &c.; Tzetz. ad Lyc. 156), and he even metamorphosed himself into a horse, for the purpose of deceiving Demeter.

The common tradition about Poseidon creating the horse is as follows:-- when Poseidon and Athena disputed as to which of them should give the name to the capital of Attica, the gods decided, that it should receive its name from him who should bestow upon man the most useful gift. Poseidon their created the horse, and Athena called forth the olive tree, for which the honour was conferred upon her. (Serv. ad Virg. Georg. i. 12.) According to others, however, Poseidon did not create the horse in Attica, but in Thessaly, where he also gave the famous horses to Peleus. (Lucan, Phars. vi. 396, &c.; Hom. Il. xxiii. 277; Apollod. iii. 13. § 5.)
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