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packman

(16,296 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:15 PM Nov 2015

Statue of Liberty modeled after a Muslim woman

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Interesting history of the Statue of Liberty - Frederic Bartholdi wanted to build a statue to sit at the entrance of the Suez Canal and drew the above sketch. Alas, not enough interest so Bartholdi did a little tweaking here and there and sold another statue idea to the American public and the French .



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/18/the-original-statue-of-liberty-was-muslim.html

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Statue of Liberty modeled after a Muslim woman (Original Post) packman Nov 2015 OP
No. Not remotely. WinkyDink Nov 2015 #1
Sorry - yes packman Nov 2015 #2
why is this a poor source? Iris Nov 2015 #4
Anyone can edit or change any Wiki article packman Nov 2015 #5
Right, but that doesn't mean all information there is wrong. Iris Nov 2015 #6
Agree - it is in the shading of the language and open source aspects that are dubious packman Nov 2015 #7
IRONY ALERT: IT IS THE TORCH OF ENLIGHTENMENT, a concept furiously opposed by Islam. WinkyDink Dec 2015 #8
I like it. Maybe someday it will be appropriate -- oldandhappy Nov 2015 #3
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
2. Sorry - yes
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:03 AM
Nov 2015

From the Wikipedia (poor source BTW) article you cited:

"Bartholdi took no immediate action on the idea (of an American statue) except to discuss it with Laboulaye. Bartholdi was in any event busy with other possible projects; in the late 1860s, he approached Isma'il Pasha, Khedive of Egypt, with a plan to build a huge lighthouse in the form of an ancient Egyptian female fellah or peasant, robed and holding a torch aloft, at the northern entrance to the Suez Canal in Port Said. Sketches and models were made of the proposed work, though it was never erected"

Iris

(15,659 posts)
4. why is this a poor source?
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:23 AM
Nov 2015

It answered the question and cited the source where the information cane from - Harris, Jonathan (1985). A Statue for America: The First 100 Years of the Statue of Liberty. New York City: Four Winds Press (a division of Macmillan Publishing Company).ISBN 978-0-02-742730-1

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
5. Anyone can edit or change any Wiki article
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:33 AM
Nov 2015

Conservatives are constantly rewriting or editing with their own twist on bio's of Reagan, Bush, etc. Granted this article has decent references.

Ironically, I quote from Wiki:

Wikipedia is a wiki, meaning that anyone can edit any unprotected page and improve articles immediately for all readers. You do not need to register to do this. Anyone who has edited is known as a "Wikipedian" and, no matter how trivial the edit may seem, can be proud that he or she has helped make Wikipedia what it is. All of these edits add up! Wikipedia uses two methods of editing: the new VisualEditor (VE), and classic editing through wiki markup (wikitext).

Iris

(15,659 posts)
6. Right, but that doesn't mean all information there is wrong.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 06:48 PM
Nov 2015

There are no sources that are completely accurate. Wikipedia has been found to be just as accurate as Encyclopedia Britannica, and in some cases more up to date.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
7. Agree - it is in the shading of the language and open source aspects that are dubious
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 06:55 PM
Nov 2015

And I would like the reference that Wiki is "just as accurate as Encyclopedia Britannica". I still stand that Wiki should be taken with a grain of salt:

https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-of-Wikipedia-being-used-as-a-source-when-the-information-on-the-site-was-wrong

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