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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsLiam Dutton nails pronouncing Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Lochloosa
(16,067 posts)Byronic
(504 posts)There might have been a couple of practise runs over his early morning coffee, though. Well done, that man!
Cymru am byth!
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)My hat's off to you if you do!
Byronic
(504 posts)I'm not fluent enough, but will keep working at it.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Even to know a few phrases is impressive-- that's really something!
Hwyl fawr am nawr!
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Keep at it Byronic!
Byronic
(504 posts)I'm just one of those Welshmen who needs to learn Welsh.
There are rather a lot of us, alas!
I'm a man of Gwent but was never taught Welsh in school - French, German, Latin (well it was a catholic school) but not Welsh.
Things are a lot better now though. Welsh is taught in schools again and cultural events such as the Eisteddfodd are growing in popularity. It's nice to see.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)malthaussen
(17,209 posts)-- Mal
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)And he's been everywhere. Now he's in prison. He's a despicable child molester.
I wouldn't mind if you deleted your post, malthaussen. I'm sure my fellow Auissies would be as grateful as I would be.
demmiblue
(36,873 posts)What a pos.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,782 posts)SwissTony
(2,560 posts)And he was by no means the worst.
Google Jimmy Savile...but have a bucket ready.
But Liam, to the best of my knowledge, is as pure as the driven snow. And, it appears, he's not Welsh. He just learned the name phonetically. Wonderfull effort.
malthaussen
(17,209 posts)As for Mr Harris personally, it is certainly sad and awful that he spent so many years abusing children. This particular song came out before he started all that, and I do not, as a rule, rate performances on the character of the performer anyway.
And I doubt you have the standing to speak for all Australians.
-- Mal
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)go for it.
You must be proud.
demmiblue
(36,873 posts)You don't seem to understand the pathology related to pedophiles/child porn fanatics.
Gross.
malthaussen
(17,209 posts)What he was doing before then is speculation.
-- Mal
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)He was born in 1930. That means he was 36/37 in 1967.
About what he did in the years preceding 1967, I can only speculate?? Got it!!!
I'm sure you and I would be more than happy to let our 12 year old daughters spend a day with Rolf if we could send them back in a time machine to 1966. Nothing could go wrong, could it?
mackerel
(4,412 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,750 posts)ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)He kind of skips a syllable (just doesn't pronounce the "r" with a roll and so it's harder to understand)
Here's it slowed down and pronounced with a more Welsh accent https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Cy-Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch_%28Welsh_pronunciation%2C_recorded_17-05-2012%29.ogg
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)I'd love to hear him say it again... very slowly.
The Welsh certainly have some interesting words, many with a dearth of vowels!
Sadly, the Welsh language is dying out I'm told.
hunter
(38,322 posts)It's still very much alive and celebrated in some communities.
BBC news in Welsh here:
http://www.bbc.com/cymrufyw
Preserving languages is important.
demmiblue
(36,873 posts)ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)When I was touring England and Wales, our tour guide went on about how the language was fading and that the new generations didn't know it and weren't taught it, etc. Maybe he was exaggerating. Hope so.
Welsh has to be one of the hardest languages to learn, IMO!
Thanks for the links
hunter
(38,322 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:12 PM - Edit history (1)
Kids can move away to another country but still communicate with folks at home and with one another using their native language.
In ancient times (like when I was my kid's age...) international phone calls were expensive and paper mail was slow.
Now people can use their laptop or tablet as video phones, and in most places that's not especially expensive or even free.
There's a place in Argentina where Welsh people settled and there's been a big effort to bring the language back and increase communication with people in Wales.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Wladfa
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)I wasn't aware of any of this. So there is hope for language preservation if people want it enough!
I think Scottish Gaelic might be teetering a bit. When I was on mainland Scotland, I never heard a word
of it. But when I visited Lewis/Harris Island, the locals conversed in it when they did their marketing! Of
course I couldn't make out a word but it was exciting to hear it being used so commonly. And all the
signs (for banks, markets, etc.) were bilingual.
eppur_se_muova
(36,274 posts)there are a lot of free language tutorial sites on the Web; the more "minor" the language the more energy put into the Web site (though not always matched by technological proficiency). Just google "learn <language> online" if you've always been curious about say, Euskara, Xhosa or Kickapoo (or even long-dead languages like Tocharian). And don't forget Omniglot.
ETA: Uh, you might want to make that "learn <language> FREE online" ...
hunter
(38,322 posts)My computers have always been fairly unique on the web because I'm a relentless accumulator of international character sets.
I may not be able to make heads or tales of a language, but little white rectangular outlines where writing ought to be bothers me.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon
(A Nation without a language is a nation without a heart)
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)W and Y are vowels, as well.
A E I O U W Y are the Welsh vowels. And Welsh isn't dying out. It's vulnerable, but it is still very much a living community language, particularly in the Northwest of Wales.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)I love stories about language(s)!!
frogmarch
(12,158 posts)Full meaning: Saint Marys Church in the hollow of the white hazel near the rapid whirlpool and the Church of Saint Tysilio of the red cave.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
I like it. The name has a nice ring to it.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Thanks for translating!
demmiblue
(36,873 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)It's always "Llanfair P. G." or "Llanfairpwll"
It was kind of a way to get it's name on the map during the Victorian age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll#Significance_of_the_name
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Well done you!