The Walking Dead 5.12 "Remember" (spoiler alert)

[NewJeffCT]

The group has a difficult time molding to a new lifestyle, forcing them to consider whether they can be the people they once were.

[NewJeffCT]

1. Interview with Chandler Riggs (Carl)

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/42066/20150228/walking-dead-chandler-riggs-carls-death-cast-spoilers-make-out-walker.htm

Also - spoiler alert - I heard that Carl [font color=white] may be getting a love interest. [/font]

[NewJeffCT]

4. early evening kick

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[NewJeffCT]

2. In case you missed my post at the end of last week's thread

The Season Finale will be 90 minutes, instead of the usual 60. That allows them to give us an extra 15 minutes of commercials.

the description is that Daryl encounters trouble while out on a run. I wonder if he - spoiler alert - [font color=white]meets The Saviors and gets the Glenn Death? They gave TV Hershel the Tyreese death from the comics...[/font]

[NewJeffCT]

3. some photo previews

looks like they're from the second trailer on Talking Dead.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/01/the-walking-dead-photo-preview-remember

[Baitball Blogger]

5. I can certainly understand why trust will be near impossible.

Once you are convinced that people generally make the wrong choices, it is near impossible to put yourself voluntarily in a position where you might get harmed or exploited.

[NewJeffCT]

6. It's a tough situation

Rick and company have a ton of reasons not to give up their guns, but if Alexandria does not have a lot of people trained with weapons, they have no reason to let in a large group of armed and potentially hostile people who clearly know how to use their guns.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

7. I would assume at this point most remaining survivors are familiar with weapons.

The more people on your side, the better. The Alexandria recruiters have apparently been watching them for a while before they decided to make contact. Two of them going out on their own to follow and recruit the group indicates they know how to handle themselves. It could be a legit place like Terminus used to be, and then an outside threat arises.

[NewJeffCT]

8. Picking upright where we left off

at the gates to Alexandria... group seems jumpy

[NewJeffCT]

9. Daryl shoots a possum and says

"We brought dinner"

Girl looks through window at Carl.

[Brigid]

10. "We brought dinner."

I think we already have tonight's best line.

[NewJeffCT]

12. that was good

some redneck hospitality to bring the possum

[Joe Shlabotnik]

13. +1

Nice start. <--'possumcorn

[NewJeffCT]

11. Sasha plugs a walker

right before the gate closes behind the group. Rick says "it's a good thing we're here"

[NewJeffCT]

14. congresswoman from Ohio

Deanna Monroe. In the comics, the Congressman is a guy

[Brigid]

15. Tovah Feldshuh!

She used to show up on "Law and Order" every now and then.

[NewJeffCT]

17. I assume that's the actress playing Deanna?

she is a good politician

[Brigid]

18. Yep.

She's been around a while. I think she's done a lot of Broadway.

[NewJeffCT]

23. I'll have to look her up

after the show

[NewJeffCT]

16. She is a politician

that's for sure.

[NewJeffCT]

19. Rick confesses he's a sheriff

says he doesn't know how many he's killed, but he knows why they're all dead.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

20. I thought he was Sheriff's deputy in the first season.

[NewJeffCT]

21. I think they were both part of the Sheriff's department

Rick and Shane, I mean.

[NewJeffCT]

22. And there goes the beard

this will be a big change

[Joe Shlabotnik]

24. The beard was getting a bit comedic looking IMO

[NewJeffCT]

27. yeah

he went a bit too bushy. Nobody else was that overgrown

[charlie and algernon]

25. Holy crap does Rick look different.

[charlie and algernon]

26. LOL, love that Daryl is still carrying around the Possum

[Baitball Blogger]

29. Daryl gutting a possum on the porch of an $800,000 house!

LOL!

[NewJeffCT]

32. $800,000 and up

but, you can't beat the view of DC.

[Brigid]

34. If you gut a possum on the porch of an $800,000 house . . .

You might be a redneck!

[Baitball Blogger]

38. LOL!

[charlie and algernon]

37. It WAS an $800,000 house

everyone knows that possum guts on the porch devalue your property.

[NewJeffCT]

30. he's going to have trouble adjusting

to civilized life

[NewJeffCT]

28. creaking upstairs

carl goes to investigate...

[Brigid]

31. Why does Daryl still have his crossbow?

I thought they had to give up their weapons.

[NewJeffCT]

35. maybe it applied only to firearms?

I mean, that was a big ass knife Carl pulled out...

[charlie and algernon]

33. All that's missing is Brooks' voiceover from Shawshank Redemption after he's released.

with the sad piano music.

[Baitball Blogger]

36. Very cool that they're all staying together.

No cheesy gimmick getting caught gazing at a photograph in this episode.

[NewJeffCT]

40. Rick still being paranoid

and, I wonder how Carl is going to fit in with soft sheltered kids?

[Baitball Blogger]

42. Oh, looks like he answered your question.

I like it here, but they're weak and I don't want us to get weak tool

[NewJeffCT]

45. Yep

and, I wonder what will happen with Enid? Hopefully, not another Sophia, Lizzie or Mika... little girls don't end up too well on the show.

[Iris]

105. Yes but piled up in that living room together

they look like traumatized feral animals.

[Baitball Blogger]

39. A dog on a leash.

Is that a first?

[NewJeffCT]

41. the last time we saw a dog

was at that house where Beth got snatched.

[Baitball Blogger]

44. That's right.

[Brigid]

47. Except those feral dogs . . .

A couple of episodes ago, was it?

[NewJeffCT]

48. gee, my memory is bad

how could I forget.

[Baitball Blogger]

49. The dirty ones that were put down by...

Sasha?

[NewJeffCT]

51. Yep

those dogs. First time we've seen tame dogs, though. The dog at the house was kind of a wild dog (with one eye)

[NewJeffCT]

43. good point by Carl

the people are weak and it could make them weak, too.

[NewJeffCT]

46. did anybody think

that guy playing Jessie's husband was going to get up & take a swing at Rick in a jealous fit? Got a bad vibe from him.

[Baitball Blogger]

50. Well, something has to go all to hell.

Or it wouldn't be walking dead.

Remember the dynamics with Shane? That had nothing to do with zombies.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

52. I predict death for Jessie's husband

before the end of the season.

[DebJ]

115. Yes there was something so creepy in his voice I had to point that out to my husband. n/t

[Joe Shlabotnik]

53. Carol playing it safe.

And sly.

[Baitball Blogger]

56. Love her!

All she needed was the pearl necklace!

[Brigid]

71. Daryl said she looked ridiculous!

I can't wait until Deanna interviews him!

[Baitball Blogger]

74. I think he was one of the first.

He paced like an animal in her office.

[Brigid]

79. She didn't get much out of him.

He is not going to fit in well.

[Iris]

104. Yep. On first appearance, she would seem innocuous.

Just like when the series started and she seemed like a meek victim of domestic abuse.

[Baitball Blogger]

54. Oh! Carol is fibbing!

What a sense of humor too!

She missed her husband and she's a real people person. Wants to join the Jr League.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

59. Gotta scout out the next Lizzy.

[NewJeffCT]

67. Deanna said she is great at reading people

I wonder if she bought Carol's act?

[Baitball Blogger]

70. I think the Jr. League comment was straight out sarcasm.

Yes. Deanna will figure Carol out for a poser. But will probably not hold it against her right away.

[Brigid]

80. I think that Carol's plan is to seriously try to fit in.

We'll see.

[charlie and algernon]

55. First mention of Ed since season 1

Carol becoming an actual Den Mother

[Baitball Blogger]

57. She is playing the game.

[Iris]

89. yet no mention of her child.

[NewJeffCT]

58. Glenn saying they had almost been out there too long

I think he's right

[Baitball Blogger]

61. Not a good scenario right now.

People with guns outside the walls while Carl is searching for the girl.

He might get deer hunted again.

[NewJeffCT]

60. that girl is going out by herself

into the wild. Carl following. I wonder if she's up to something?

[Baitball Blogger]

63. Carl and his dad got their Zombie on.

Risky behavior. It's like they're adrenaline junkies.

[NewJeffCT]

69. father-son bonding

at its best.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

64. Carl discovers teenage hormones.

Just his type.

[NewJeffCT]

65. yep

one day in Alexandria and he's turning into a stalker!

[Iris]

102. I think she is probably helping the 3 or 4 people who were exiled.

At least, that was my theory this morning!

[NewJeffCT]

103. oh - good thought

I hadn't even thought about that. I was thinking maybe the exiles were the walkers that Rick and Carl killed?

[Iris]

106. That's possible, too.

Or, the exiles could have gotten the gun.

[NewJeffCT]

107. I saw this on another site

the comic book that belonged to the girl has "Wolf" in the title - maybe a hint from the producers for those with a sharp eye?... I wonder if she is a spy for "The Wolves" that we saw take out Noah's little area in Richmond?

[Iris]

111. I noticed the title but it didn't register for me

That she was the one reading it. I wonder if the exiles are the wolves?

Also, I'm thinking the wolves got the blender gun.

[NewJeffCT]

62. uh oh

Rick's gun is missing from the blender...

[Baitball Blogger]

66. Yeah. That's the first red flag.

[NewJeffCT]

68. nobody knew about it except him

if I'm not mistaken. I thought maybe Carl had it at first, but he didn't know.

[Baitball Blogger]

72. Playing with Zombies.

Never a good thing to do.

[NewJeffCT]

73. nope

almost got Tara killed.

Then, Glenn kick's that guy's ass.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

75. Daryl not impressed with Officer Friendly.

[NewJeffCT]

77. Nope

and, Deanna thanks Glenn for knocking the guy on his ass.

[NewJeffCT]

76. Officer Rick Grimes reporting for duty

the town constable with Michonne.

[Baitball Blogger]

81. this can work.

They can make rounds around the compound to clean up the zombies.

[NewJeffCT]

108. Rick

washed out the Grime...

[NewJeffCT]

78. Damn - Rick says

if it doesn't work out, they'll just take the place. It's not in them to get soft.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

82. Rick's playing along like Carol,

living up to Deanna's expectations... for now.

[NewJeffCT]

98. I have a feeling

that Deanna knows they're not being 100% straightforward. I mean, would you buy that "I don't know what to do with my gun" act Carol was putting on? They've been out there for a year and a half making it and scraping by, but then you give an assault rifle to a woman that doesn't know how to use it? Maybe it will fool the woman with the weapons cart, but I doubt it would fool somebody a little more savvy.

[charlie and algernon]

83. heh, Rick's beard made the In Memoriam

[Brigid]

85. Yeah, that was funny.

[Brigid]

84. I didn't realize until they went outside the compound . . .

That these people do not know how to deal with walkers. They don't know much about survival either.

[NewJeffCT]

86. Nope, they don't seem to

The "douchebag" guy makes me wonder if they lost people because of their incompetence, or if it really was the other group panicking.

[NewJeffCT]

109. In case you missed Talking Dead

the Easter Egg was the girl's comic, which was "Wolf Fight" - hinting at a connection to the group that raided & destroyed Noah's home. Maybe she is a spy?

[pinboy3niner]

110. I thought the Easter Egg was Rick's uniform patch

With its Latin expression, "We will rise again."

[NewJeffCT]

87. Alanna Masterson

seems pretty cool - like a fun person to work with.

[Baitball Blogger]

92. I was wondering if having her on the show was a deflection.

Maybe she's the one that gets the bite next week?

[NewJeffCT]

95. they did announce a surprise guest for next week

maybe Jessie's husband or Aiden, or one of Rick's group? Eugene or Noah?

[Baitball Blogger]

99. It will probably be the first person that thinks he or she is safe.

The sneak preview shows Sasha being extremely skittish. She's out in the forest by herself. She has a weapon in her arm and nervously looks left and right before shooting something in the distance. She stops and looks around before continuing what she's doing.

She had collected picture frames from the house and set them up for target practice.

My first thought was that the writers realized what a piss poor excuse it was to have Tyrese get distracted by a picture frame, and decided to destroy every picture frame on the set to avoid making that mistake again.

[NewJeffCT]

100. yes

that was a pretty poor way to go out - they had been so professional for so long in clearing places and making them safe that it was really weird that he went into the house and didn't clear it before getting distracted by the pictures.

[NewJeffCT]

88. uh oh - surprise guest on next week's Talking Dead

that usually means a cast member that died in the episode.

[Rhythm]

96. I thought the same thing... n/t

[Iggo]

97. I wish they wouldn't announce those things.

[Iris]

90. Where's Gabriel?

[Brigid]

91. I was wondering that too.

Aren't a few others missing too?

[Iris]

93. possibly

Rick mentioned a number last week. It seemed like a lot but I can't remember what it was.

[NewJeffCT]

94. he was in the group that went through the gate

not sure about after that.

[Iris]

101. No collar

I think that's why I didn't notice

[Baitball Blogger]

112. I figured out a potential source of coming trouble.

Deanna said she exiled three men because they weren't going to work out. I bet one or all three of them are still alive. They would be the ones that took the gun (Not a good thing that Rick was the reason they got a hold of a weapon)

It also makes sense that they would set up a zombie trap, knowing that Rick would be back for the gun.

[NewJeffCT]

113. I think you may be right

it seemed pretty calm there when Rick planted the gun... seems odd that a day or two later, it's zombie-ville.

[GOLGO 13]

114. Before they entered Alexandria, Enid was in the house watching Carl. So she

could have seen Rick put the gun in the blender, yes? We already know the girl is a sneak & has something to hide.

[NewJeffCT]

116. and

we never really got an explanation from Carl to his dad why he was out beyond the walls - he was following the girl, and then suddenly, he arrives to save his Dad. "Hi Carl, thanks, but why were you out beyond the walls in the first place?" "Well, Dad, I'm stalking this girl, and then heard a disturbance..."

[Iris]

117. How will Morgan fit into all of this?

N/t

[NewJeffCT]

118. good question

My guess - and this is only a guess - is that since he was loaded with a ton of weapons when Rick, Michonne and Carl visited him a few seasons back, so will make a dramatic entrance during the season finale - a herd of walkers is about to overwhelm the gates of Alexandria and Morgan shows up behind them and starts mowing them down.

or, maybe since Daryl is singled out in the season finale description, Morgan shows up to save Daryl? However, Morgan does not know Daryl from a hole in the ground, so that might not work.

[Iris]

119. I haven't been keeping up and didn't know about Darryl in the season finale

I think that's probably a red herring and someone else will die - maybe Carol?

But I feel like Morgan is going to appear to the group before the end of this season.

[NewJeffCT]

120. It would be pretty crappy

of the producers to give us the season premiere Morgan teaser, and then another teaser at the mid season finale and then not bring him out again this season.

[GOLGO 13]

121. Well, my theory as to this year's cliffhanger has been altered somewhat.

I thought it would end with Rick & co. taking over the town, but Rick's already foreshadowed that bit, as well as the thing with Jesse. Something else is gonna happen.

I'm thinking either Morgan catches up to them and/or Nagan comes calling. Can "Jesus" be far behind?

[NewJeffCT]

122. I was re-reading the graphic novels last night

There is a point where a pre-Saviors gang attempts to attack Alexandria. The leader comes up to the gate and confronts Rick and says, spoiler alert: [font color=white] "Little pig, little pig, let me in" - so, I think that's where the writers came up with the Wolves idea. In the comic, though, Andrea heads up to her little water tower and picks off some of the attackers. I'm guessing that might be Sasha now, since Andrea's dead on the show. They already hinted at it with her turning and shooting the zombie as they entered the town. My guess is that the final episode is Rick's final showdown with Jessie's husband, the confrontation with the Wolves, and then Deanna saying that Rick is a better leader than her...Rick stands there stunned as we close the season. [/font]

[GOLGO 13]

123. I like how you laid this out.

It wraps up the main point (at least) of what we know is going to happen for the season finale. Yeah, Sasha has gotten pretty good with the long rifle ain't she? I'm interested in what trouble Daryl gets into outside the walls.

I just got a feeling about Nagan showing up at the finale.

[NewJeffCT]

124. Walking Dead ratings continue to climb

looks like they are still on track to beat the dreaded season 5 curse - ratings continue to increase.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/weekly-ratings-walking-dead-empire-separate-from-the-pack-1201445169/

(season 5 curse is that long running TV shows start to see some slippage in ratings in year 5 and typically never get back to where they were - even if they continue at, or near, the top of the ratings.)