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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:40 AM Nov 2014

The GREATEST live rock album of all time?

I've been listening to Humble Pie's "Performance - Rockin' The Fillmore - The Complete Recordings."



The original album was pulled from two day's worth of perfomances, afternoon and evening shows. The box set has the full 4-show run. This may not be "THE" greatest live album...I would definitely put it in my top 10, though, along with The Allman Brothers' own Fillmore set.

What's YOUR pick?

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The GREATEST live rock album of all time? (Original Post) Miles Archer Nov 2014 OP
Real Love by Swans. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #1
Cheap Trick, Live at Budokan. denbot Nov 2014 #5
Yes it is. Great energy, great song selection. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #66
Another vote for Cheap Trick, Live at Budokan & Bob Seger's 'Live' Bullet Kaleva Nov 2014 #99
you stole my answer! BootinUp Nov 2014 #125
Another great Live at Budokan: GGJohn Nov 2014 #135
I saw the Swans a couple of years ago Tom Kitten Nov 2014 #28
I'm envious! ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #29
I saw them in 2011, at the Regency Ballroom in S.F. Fantastic show. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #65
Awesome! ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #88
No. And I kind of hope there isn't. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #128
Rock and Roll Animal by Lou Reed. 6000eliot Nov 2014 #2
Woodstock. Prisoner_Number_Six Nov 2014 #3
You've heard the 6-CD box set, right? Miles Archer Nov 2014 #11
Unfortunately I was rather occupied trying to stay alive during Woodstock. GGJohn Nov 2014 #134
Live At The Button- Charlie Pickett and the Eggs Tom Ripley Nov 2014 #4
"Take No Prisoners" is a LOT of fun. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #10
That's the one where he's jacked up on speed and he can't stop rambling, right? nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #67
Yeah, it's like 60 minutes of unfunny Lenny Bruce with a little music thrown in Miles Archer Nov 2014 #73
Speaking of which, I don't know if anyone's even mentioned 'R&RA' in this thread. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #74
Yep, it got mentioned twice. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #75
Well one that I saw live was a lot of fun sharp_stick Nov 2014 #6
I loved that album when I was a kid. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #30
Say what you want about Kiss, they sure did put on one helluva show! Archae Nov 2014 #7
I have to go with U2's "Rattle and Hum" Coventina Nov 2014 #8
Aerosmith's "Live Bootleg" Throd Nov 2014 #9
The Who "Live At Leeds" Tom Kitten Nov 2014 #12
Setting the Grateful Dead to one side, as there are so many hifiguy Nov 2014 #13
There was some SERIOUS competition to snag a copy of 801 Live when it was released Miles Archer Nov 2014 #15
I had one of "those" record shops too. hifiguy Nov 2014 #19
Ha! ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #31
I still have "Spot The Pigeon" hifiguy Nov 2014 #48
Pretty sure.. sendero Nov 2014 #131
There is a high quality bootleg of Patti from that time Tom Kitten Nov 2014 #26
Do you have particular Dead concert favorites? Enthusiast Nov 2014 #43
I have never dived into the depths of the Dick's Picks series hifiguy Nov 2014 #45
Hey, thanks. Yeah, I love Phil's bass too. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #51
"Three From The Vault" is terrifying, and you must own a copy. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #119
Pulse is amazing. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #44
The "Hull" story... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #17
This is the first one I thought of, too. kwassa Nov 2014 #20
I agree absolutely! ailsagirl Nov 2014 #146
Rockin' The Fillmore is definitely in my top ten too, along with Johnny Winter's "Captured Live". bluesbassman Nov 2014 #14
It always amazed me how he could just strike like a rattler coming out of the GATE. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #16
Agree 100% on Highway 61. bluesbassman Nov 2014 #18
Me too. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #39
Johnny Winter And Mr.Bill Nov 2014 #126
I dragged that one out, Mr. Bill. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #144
One of, if not the best Mr.Bill Nov 2014 #147
Get Your Ya-Yas Out, Wheels of Fire, Stop Making Sense. kwassa Nov 2014 #21
"Rank," the Smiths shenmue Nov 2014 #22
For me? GGJohn Nov 2014 #23
I really like the version of "Walking With A Mountain" on this one... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #24
Violent Femmes, "Viva Wisconsin" (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #25
Second vote here for Rock 'n' Roll Animal - Lou Reed Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2014 #27
Do concert videos count? jmowreader Nov 2014 #32
I have the "666" CD but not the video Miles Archer Nov 2014 #36
You'll really like the video jmowreader Nov 2014 #52
I went to three shows on that tour. Initech Nov 2014 #79
"Album" would be the defining answer. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #97
Talking Heads -Stop Making Sense Earth_First Nov 2014 #33
Great stuff. But 'The Name of This Band...' (especially the expanded 2-CD) gives stiff competition. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #68
Rare Earth (1971) deserves a mention BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #34
Probably the best Temptations cover by a mile. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #69
They also did a great cover of I'm Losing You on the same album BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #87
OMG - I forgot about that song~! I have that record here somewhere . . . nt Still Blue in PDX Nov 2014 #115
Neil Young - Live Rust... lame54 Nov 2014 #35
I love that one. And all of Neil's live stuff. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #38
Saw that tour. hifiguy Nov 2014 #46
seen neil 3 times... lame54 Nov 2014 #62
Oh yeah. Even the pretty great 'Weld' can't touch that one. n/t nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #70
The Allman Brothers Live at the Filmore Album was my first choice when I read the thread title. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #37
"Roadwork" has been one of my "go to" albums for decades... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #40
Cool. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #41
I was lucky enough to snag a 40+ year old copy of that Allmans 2LP, quite cheap, and in great shape. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #76
Good for you! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #92
My 68-year-old uncle gave me 10 of his old records a few months ago. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #129
After hearing that many many times I still enjoy hearing it. And all the other Neil Young. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #132
Bless its Pointed Little Head, the Jefferson Airplane kwassa Nov 2014 #42
Another fine choice and a personal go-to. hifiguy Nov 2014 #47
12-31-1978 GoCubsGo Nov 2014 #49
Disc 4, Dark Star> The Other One> Dark Star> Wharf Rat> St. Stephen> Good Lovin'... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #124
Add to that... GoCubsGo Nov 2014 #137
I just posted the whole show in the post you just replied to... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #141
Thank you! I didn't realize the it was the whole show. GoCubsGo Nov 2014 #142
Dark Star> The Other One> Dark Star> Wharf Rat> St. Stephen> Good Lovin'... Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #140
I NEED that, and badly indeed. hifiguy Nov 2014 #143
Hard Rain - Bob Dylan lutefisk Nov 2014 #50
As much as I love "Blood On The Tracks"... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #59
Another nice version of "You're A Big Girl Now" lutefisk Nov 2014 #78
Love that.. likesmountains 52 Nov 2014 #155
Billy Bragg- Help Save the Youth of America (1988) JCMach1 Nov 2014 #53
Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band--"Live Bullet" amandabeech Nov 2014 #54
Live at Folsom Prison greendog Nov 2014 #55
Yessongs. dawg Nov 2014 #56
+1 :) azurnoir Nov 2014 #61
+1 a whole bunch Enthusiast Nov 2014 #95
I had moved to California from Massachusetts and soon fell in with the "prog crowd"... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #123
+1000. GGJohn Nov 2014 #136
Since I'm Joining Late, Plus 5 ProfessorGAC Nov 2014 #138
My favorite live album, no doubt about it. chknltl Nov 2014 #152
Strangers In The Night -- UFO Iggo Nov 2014 #57
Definitely one of the best. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #58
Beat me to it! Damn you! nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #71
Bob Seger's "Live Bullet" Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2014 #60
Love that one. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #63
KISS 'Alive' Populist_Prole Nov 2014 #64
Live KISS is certainly better than studio KISS, I'll give you that. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #72
No mention of Deep Purple - 'Made in Japan'? WTF, you guys! nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #77
This one just got the "Super Deluxe" box treatment... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #83
I think I'll just get an old vinyl of the original. Right now I only have it in digital form. n/t nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #86
I saw Deep Purple live in Dania, FL, sometime in the '60s. RebelOne Nov 2014 #118
60's? So was Rod Evans still the singer? n/t nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #130
What a beast of an album that was and is. hifiguy Nov 2014 #145
78 replies and not a single Frank Zappa mention? Blasphemy!!!! Initech Nov 2014 #80
Guitarist Steve Vai wasn't fond of that one at all... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #81
Es ist in SOFA! hifiguy Nov 2014 #148
My memory is that it was basically the whole "Fillmore" album with the Magic Pig bit. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #149
That is one HELL of a great story. hifiguy Nov 2014 #150
I should have listed Bongo Fury as my all time favorite live album. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #93
"Muffin Man" contains my all-time favorite Zappa solo. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #100
It's a truly great one. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #105
Advanced romance.. I can't stand it no more! Initech Nov 2014 #111
Solid choice, i would also add Roxy & Elsewhere. Initech Nov 2014 #103
Roxy and Elsewhere! I love it. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #107
Zappa was the undisputed king of the live album. Initech Nov 2014 #108
I'm so glad Dweezil is continuing the legacy. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #109
I remember reading an LA Times interview with Gail Zappa not too long ago. Initech Nov 2014 #110
That is so cool! I didn't know there was quite that much material to come. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #112
The best thing is that the ZFT owns every last note hifiguy Nov 2014 #151
I saw the "Bongo" AND "Roxy" bands... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #116
That's seriously bad ass. Initech Nov 2014 #117
Yep, he'd have no problem selling tickets. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #120
I have all of the You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore series. Initech Nov 2014 #122
Jerry Lee Lewis Jetboy Nov 2014 #82
Oh HELL yes. YES. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #84
Hardest, fastest, roughest and toughest rock-n-roll ever set to wax. Jetboy Nov 2014 #113
Good call! That is some dirtyass rockandroll. Tom Ripley Nov 2014 #85
Waiting for Columbus by Little Feat. cliffordu Nov 2014 #89
Love all the artists mentioned above! I'll add Gary Moore Live at Montreux adirondacker Nov 2014 #90
greatest? ... I don't know but, Favorite .... I gotta go with Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2014 #91
We listened to that a brazillion times. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #94
Yep... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #102
That album IS awesome, esp. "I Don't Need No Doctor"---But MY #1 = J. Geils Band, "Full House Live." WinkyDink Nov 2014 #96
I was in a "Banana Records" store when that album came out... Miles Archer Nov 2014 #101
And I have FRONT ROW to see them on November 19! WOOT! ("Oh, baby, you got me so blind!") WinkyDink Nov 2014 #104
Grand Funk - Live Album KG Nov 2014 #98
I saw them open for Led Zeppelin in 1969. kwassa Nov 2014 #160
The Who Live At Leeds, Feat's Waiting For Columbus, or Allmans at Fillmore East. n/t Orsino Nov 2014 #106
Someone has to mention Joe Cocker's Mad Dogs and Englishmen PufPuf23 Nov 2014 #114
I got CARDED when I went to a movie theater to see "Mad Dogs." A "PG" film! Miles Archer Nov 2014 #121
Cream's Wheels of Fire Mr.Bill Nov 2014 #127
First Album I Ever Bought ProfessorGAC Nov 2014 #139
+1 Enthusiast Nov 2014 #159
I've been listening to They Might Be Giants First Album Live. It's FREE My Good Babushka Nov 2014 #133
Pulse? What, no Pink Floyd fan(atics) here? chknltl Nov 2014 #153
Pulse was named a little further upstream in the thread. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #154
Miles, thank you for this thread. I have enjoyed it immensely. Loved the Zappa discussion. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #158
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it. Miles Archer Nov 2014 #162
Three way tie Reter Nov 2014 #156
None of those are live albums Miles Archer Nov 2014 #157
Ok, I don't listen to much live recorded music.. sendero Nov 2014 #161

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
1. Real Love by Swans.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:47 AM
Nov 2014


I can't find any recordings from that album on youtube. I may have to upload it at some point.

Many Swans fans would pick Public Castration is a Good Idea, which is a good one. Here's the full album. Start your speakers on low, just in case, but Swans is best at higher volumes...and drunk.



Tom Kitten

(7,350 posts)
28. I saw the Swans a couple of years ago
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:16 AM
Nov 2014

It was like being assaulted

A record store/dj friend of mine says there were times when they played that they'd have the doors locked to prevent people from leaving! I don't know if that's true but it's a good story!

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
29. I'm envious!
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:26 AM
Nov 2014

I wish I could have seem them in the late 80s, but I wasn't old enough to go to their shows.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
65. I saw them in 2011, at the Regency Ballroom in S.F. Fantastic show.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 08:24 PM
Nov 2014

Those old recordings from the 80's are fucking scary, though. Like some black-magic ritual in musical form.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
11. You've heard the 6-CD box set, right?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:36 AM
Nov 2014

I grew up with the triple vinyl and twin vinyl follow-up.

The box set has the full "Woodstock Boogie" from Canned Heat, Janis doing "Ball and Chain," and the Dead doing "Dark Star." Maybe not the BEST "Dark Star"...Woodstock was not a real success for them...but it is still interesting to hear it.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
4. Live At The Button- Charlie Pickett and the Eggs
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:09 AM
Nov 2014

Night of the Living Dead Boys- Dead Boys
David Live- David Bowie
Take No Prisoners- Lou Reed

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
73. Yeah, it's like 60 minutes of unfunny Lenny Bruce with a little music thrown in
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 09:31 PM
Nov 2014

I love it, but that's part of being a Lou fan. It's not like all of his albums are "Rock & Roll Animal."

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
74. Speaking of which, I don't know if anyone's even mentioned 'R&RA' in this thread.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 09:34 PM
Nov 2014

We need some "Sweet Jane" over here, stat!

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
6. Well one that I saw live was a lot of fun
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 10:33 AM
Nov 2014

way back when. It was Iron Maiden's Live After Death. They had some great live albums.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
30. I loved that album when I was a kid.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:30 AM
Nov 2014

I bought my first Iron Maiden album because of the zombies on the cover, and I was happy the band didn't suck. I'm not too into them anymore, but I still enjoy a song here and there.

Coventina

(27,160 posts)
8. I have to go with U2's "Rattle and Hum"
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 10:56 AM
Nov 2014

Because I was there both nights when it was recorded.

Good times!!!

Throd

(7,208 posts)
9. Aerosmith's "Live Bootleg"
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:21 AM
Nov 2014

OK, maybe not the best live album, but it was the one that got me into hard driving rock-n-roll as an eleven year old.

Tom Kitten

(7,350 posts)
12. The Who "Live At Leeds"
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

I'd actually go so far as to say this is the greatest live album...Great guitar jams, great songs...the Who at their peak!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. Setting the Grateful Dead to one side, as there are so many
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:14 PM
Nov 2014
great concert recordings of the Dead, it is hard to go against The Allman Bros at the Fillmore. I'd put Pink Floyd's Pulse on the list, as well as Yessongs , Gong's The Birthday Party, and Phil Manzanera's 801 Live. It's a shame Patti Smith didn't do a live LP from the Easter tour. That band blew the roof off the theater when I saw them.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
15. There was some SERIOUS competition to snag a copy of 801 Live when it was released
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:26 PM
Nov 2014

There were a couple of "Record Stores" (remember those, kids?) in Palo Alto CA that I used to frequent. They were the only game in town outside of a trip to San Francisco when it came to imports. I bought all of the Sex Pistols' import 45s and things like "Spot The Pigeon" from Genesis:



EVERYONE I knew wanted a copy of "801 Live" and you had to know how to sweet-talk store owners to get one.

Looks like someone uploaded the entire 801 Live on YouTube:



"Dalai Llama lame puss puss
Stella maris missa nobis
Miss a dinner Miss Shapiro
Shampoos pot-pot pinkies pampered
Movement hampered like at Christmas
Ha-ha isn't life a circus
Round in circles like the Archers
Always stiff or always starchy
Yes it's happening and it's fattening
And it's all that we can get into the show..."

They don't write 'em like that any more.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. I had one of "those" record shops too.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:59 PM
Nov 2014

Got one of the first ten copies of the Pistols LPs in MPLS. Had to give the manager a couple of lines of coke to get him to set aside a copy of Siouxsie's "Hong Kong Garden" for me!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
48. I still have "Spot The Pigeon"
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:52 PM
Nov 2014

Bought it and Monty Python's double EP "Python On Song" on the same day. Why do I remember these things???

Traded all my original UK Pistols singles, except for "Anarchy" which I never laid hands on - in perfect picture sleeves, even "Holidays In The Sun" - to a buddy who owned a record shop back in the Nineties. He gave me $500 in store credit and kept them for himself. This guy had/had seen EVERYTHING and had never, ever seen a mint Holidays sleeve AND single.

Which reminds me, I have to dig out Ronnie Spector and the E Street Band's monumental, astounding "Say Goodbye To Hollywood." Still gives me the shivers every time I hear it.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
131. Pretty sure..
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:25 AM
Nov 2014

... Brian Eno wrote those crazy lyrics and just about everything he touched in the 70s turned to musical gold!

Tom Kitten

(7,350 posts)
26. There is a high quality bootleg of Patti from that time
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:08 AM
Nov 2014

It's called Easter Rising and was originally a live FM radio simulcast of her show at a place called The Place in Eugene, OR, on May 9, 1978.
I was a freshman at UO then and for the life of my do not remember why I didn't go (I think I was probably broke)...I have a copy and it's great! Her banter is great, she's really funny, and they rock! (I finally did see her when she toured for Gung Ho)

And I agree, Allman Brothers at Fillmore, Yessongs, especially 801 live, are all up near the top, too. I haven't heard The Birthday Party but was lucky enough to see Gong back in the 90s - now that was a memorable show!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
43. Do you have particular Dead concert favorites?
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:16 PM
Nov 2014

I have many Dead shows that I been listening to recently.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
45. I have never dived into the depths of the Dick's Picks series
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:38 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:43 PM - Edit history (1)

due to limited funds but my all-time favorite live GD recording is probably One From The Vault - a 1975 show in a small venue where they introduced the material from Blues For Allah, which is one of my favorite Dead LPs. Stunning playing and the band was as tight as the proverbial duck's ass. Magnificent sound, as well. Jerry and Phil (hey, I'm a bass guitarist and the nicest thing any musician ever said to me was, on playing one of his tunes, "that's the way I imagine Phil would play it". Higher prise for a bassist there is not.) were absolutely at the peak of their immense powers.

The Europe 1972 - end of the Keith-and-Donna period is my preferred era of the Dead, though Donna could be a bit much at times.

I'd put Live Dead and Reckoning right up there with it.

ETA- a bunch of the same music from One From The Vault, circa 1976

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
119. "Three From The Vault" is terrifying, and you must own a copy.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:00 PM
Nov 2014

"Skull & Roses" was the first Dead album I ever bought. I currently own 132 Dead albums / box sets (according to my iTunes it's 3273 songs, or 17.2 straight DAYS of Dead music). For sentimental reasons, as well as the music itself, "Skull" remains my favorite.

"Three From The Vault" was froom the same era...Pigpen still on board, no Keith & Donna yet (that was my favorite era as well, but a damned close second woud be the end of Pig's tenure).



It's the complete show from February 19, 1971 at the Capitol Theater in Port Chester, New York.

They just hit a groove on this one that's hard to explain...the hard-assed jamming of the "Live Dead" era but also the finesse that would come with the initial Keith & Donna years.

Disc One

Two Ditties: "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down" (Friend, Franklin), "Spring Song" (Mendelssohn) — 1:19
"Truckin'" (Garcia, Lesh, Weir, Hunter) — 8:09
"Loser" (Garcia, Hunter) — 6:23
"Cumberland Blues" (Garcia, Lesh, Hunter) — 4:58
"It Hurts Me Too" (Elmore James, Tampa Red) — 6:10
"Bertha" (Garcia, Hunter) — 5:21
"Playing in the Band" (Weir, Hart, Hunter) — 5:14
"Dark Hollow" (Bill Browning) — 3:15
"Smokestack Lightning" (Howlin' Wolf) — 14:42
"China Cat Sunflower" (Garcia, Hunter) — 3:24
"I Know You Rider" (traditional, arranged by Grateful Dead) — 7:02

Disc Two

"Greatest Story Ever Told" (Weir, Hunter) — 4:22
"Johnny B. Goode" (Chuck Berry) — 3:26
"Bird Song" (Garcia, Hunter) — 7:04
"Easy Wind" (Hunter) — 8:17
"Deal" (Garcia, Hunter) — 4:22
"Cryptical Envelopment" (Garcia) > "Drums" (Kreutzmann) > "The Other One" (Weir) — 16:09
"Wharf Rat" (Garcia, Hunter) — 9:08
"Good Lovin'" (Artie Resnick, Rudy Clark) — 18:43
"Casey Jones" (Garcia, Hunter) — 5:00


I sometimes lost patience with Pigpen's extended "blues raps" but on the version of "Smokestack Lightning" offered here the legend gets separated from the hype...the fucker sounds dangerous. Every song shines here, it's like taking the level of "Skull & Roses" up a couple of notches.




Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
17. The "Hull" story...
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:38 PM
Nov 2014

..."Leeds" was recorded on Feb. 14, 1970, and the band recorded the next night's show at Hull University as well. John Entwistle's bass dropped out of the first 6 songs of that show and "legend has it" that the record company seriously considered issuing it instead of Leeds except for that fact.

The whole Hull show is now on the "40th Anniversary" reissue of "Leeds." The record company simply lifted the bass track on the six songs in question from "Leeds" and ovverdubbed them on the defectivve tracks.



bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
14. Rockin' The Fillmore is definitely in my top ten too, along with Johnny Winter's "Captured Live".
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 06:25 PM
Nov 2014

Johnny was one of the most incendiary guitarists of all time and the lead track from Captured Live! showcases that fact.

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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
16. It always amazed me how he could just strike like a rattler coming out of the GATE.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:31 PM
Nov 2014

"Captured Live" is one BRUTAL album.

For my money, he OWNED "Highway 61" in the same way that Jimi owned "Watchtower."

He also blowtorched Dylan's "From A Buick Six" on the "Still Alive And Well" album. Listening to that track tells you where young guns like Kenny Wayne Shepherd got a few of the tricks in his trick bag.



The thing that amuses me MOST about the track is that it wasn't on the original album...it was a "bonus track" on the CD remaster.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
18. Agree 100% on Highway 61.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:02 PM
Nov 2014

One of the few tunes that I have no problem saying the cover was better than the original. Obviously a different grove, but as you said, Johnny OWNED that song.

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
126. Johnny Winter And
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:05 PM
Nov 2014

was a great live album, too.

Hmmmm...How many artists had more than one great live album?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
144. I dragged that one out, Mr. Bill.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:38 PM
Nov 2014

It's better than I remembered. I'll listen to it more frequently now.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
24. I really like the version of "Walking With A Mountain" on this one...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:40 AM
Nov 2014

...one cornerstone of Ian Hunter's sound is that "barely controlled chaos / coming off the rails" thing, and that song is saturated in it.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
32. Do concert videos count?
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 07:36 AM
Nov 2014

Then I go with Iron Maiden's "Flight 666" - the first tour Maiden did after Bruce Dickinson got his Air Transport Pilot certificate. They leased a Boeing 757 from the airline one of Bruce's day jobs was at, wrapped it, put cast, crew and equipment in the back and Bruce in the left-hand seat, and toured the world in 47 days. (While largely done as a publicity stunt, Maiden ran the numbers after getting home and found out it was the most cost-effective tour they ever did.)

If it has to be audio-only, it's either Cheap Trick's Live at Budokan or the Woodstock album.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
52. You'll really like the video
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:41 PM
Nov 2014

They shot it as a documentary. You get both the documentary and the concert in one package.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
33. Talking Heads -Stop Making Sense
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 07:46 AM
Nov 2014

I realize that this is a video production, however falls under the category of greatest live performances.

Cutting edge at the time and arguably belongs on any list of top greatest performances for a host of reasons...

Great list so far...

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
46. Saw that tour.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:42 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Man, did Neil and Crazy Horse lift the wigs that night. Whoa. "Powerful" is a pathetic understatement.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
37. The Allman Brothers Live at the Filmore Album was my first choice when I read the thread title.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:27 PM
Nov 2014

I have two vinyl copies of The Allman Brother's Filmore LP, one worn out and the other pretty well pristine. Same with Eat a Peach.

After reading the thread I was reminded about The Who's Live at Leeds and Woodstock.

Then I remembered Edgar Winter's Roadwork. On Roadwork Edgar has assembled a huge all star band. Johnny plays on at least one tune too. The Tobacco Road cut is simply crazy nuts. Try this one if you are not familiar with it. Some wild stuff.



Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
40. "Roadwork" has been one of my "go to" albums for decades...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:05 PM
Nov 2014

...and yes, "Tobacco Road" is 100% completely off the HOOK.

Not to mention the album's "People keep asking me, uh...where's your brother" moment.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
76. I was lucky enough to snag a 40+ year old copy of that Allmans 2LP, quite cheap, and in great shape.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 09:39 PM
Nov 2014

Yeah, I'm pretty new to the whole vinyl collecting thing. But I'm only 30, so this stuff was kinda before my time.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
92. Good for you!
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:29 AM
Nov 2014

At the rate we oldsters are aging collectable vinyl will become ever more available, I suspect.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
129. My 68-year-old uncle gave me 10 of his old records a few months ago.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 11:35 PM
Nov 2014

One of which was an original Neil Young - 'Tonight's the Night.' That thing is rare - and expensive - nowadays.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
47. Another fine choice and a personal go-to.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:44 PM
Nov 2014

Grace and Marty were terrific and The Great Jack Casady lays down some truly mind-roasting bass.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
124. Disc 4, Dark Star> The Other One> Dark Star> Wharf Rat> St. Stephen> Good Lovin'...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:32 PM
Nov 2014

...a 51 minute run that is as tight and tasty as it gets.



GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
137. Add to that...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:47 AM
Nov 2014

The very beginning: Bill Graham dressed as Father Time floating across the stage in a giant, smoking doobie, as Dan Ackroyd counts down to midnight, after which the band breaks out into my most favorite version of "Sugar Magnolia". It doesn't get much better than that! I wish there was still a video of it on YouTube. One of these days, when I get the funds, I'm going to buy the DVD of that event.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
141. I just posted the whole show in the post you just replied to...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 01:23 PM
Nov 2014

...including the Bill Graham bit. Take another look...this clip is the entire three hour show, from YouTube.



GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
142. Thank you! I didn't realize the it was the whole show.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 01:48 PM
Nov 2014

I didn't watch it yet, and assumed it was just the clip of the songs you mentioned. I know what I'll be watching tonight!



Bill & Mickey

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
140. Dark Star> The Other One> Dark Star> Wharf Rat> St. Stephen> Good Lovin'...
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:35 PM
Nov 2014

That is the quintessential head set ;~/

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
143. I NEED that, and badly indeed.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 05:48 PM
Nov 2014

Some fine whiskey, a puff or two of herb and I will be levitating for the duration.

lutefisk

(3,974 posts)
50. Hard Rain - Bob Dylan
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:29 PM
Nov 2014

Idiot Wind and Shelter From the Storm are great performances with so much emotion and context...

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
59. As much as I love "Blood On The Tracks"...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 06:20 PM
Nov 2014

...I prefer the version of "You're A Big Girl Now" on this one because it is just so damned raw and real.

lutefisk

(3,974 posts)
78. Another nice version of "You're A Big Girl Now"
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 10:08 PM
Nov 2014

From the Blood on the Tracks Companion LP. Sep 17 1974. "You're A Big Girl Now" take 2 test pressing.

Listen here at the 6:00 mark: link

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
54. Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band--"Live Bullet"
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:33 PM
Nov 2014

It was Seger's breakout album, and my diety, can that man and his band rock!

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
123. I had moved to California from Massachusetts and soon fell in with the "prog crowd"...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:21 PM
Nov 2014

...and Yes...specifically "Yessongs" and later everything else...was a by-product of that. Went to see Genesis play the "Wind & Wuthering" tour AND Peter Gabriel (with Robert Fripp AND Steve Hunter from Lou Reed's R&R Animal) play HIS first post-Genesis tour at Winterland.

And a natural by product of THAT was getting exposed to THIS humble little band:

ProfessorGAC

(65,138 posts)
138. Since I'm Joining Late, Plus 5
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:25 PM
Nov 2014

I thought what was great about it was the songs are more dynamic and rock harder than the studio albums, with no loss in precision.

And Wakeman's compliation piece of his Henry VIII is great.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
152. My favorite live album, no doubt about it.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:11 PM
Nov 2014

Oh sure why not, count me in with a vote for Yessongs being the best Live Rock album ever! Great artwork on the cover and inner sleeves as well.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
58. Definitely one of the best.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 06:19 PM
Nov 2014

Wikipedia:

Strangers in the Night (with original subtitle A Double Live Album) is a live album by the British rock band UFO, first released in 1979 on the Chrysalis label.

The original double LP album was recorded in autumn 1978 at shows in Chicago, Illinois and Louisville, Kentucky. This was UFO's last concert recording with guitarist Michael Schenker before the band's reunion in 1993. Schenker left the band during this tour; this led to the band having to recruit former band mate & ex Lone Star guitarist Paul Chapman. It has been rumoured that Schenker refused to record any overdubs for the album, which would make this an accurate account of his live guitar work. When he has discussed the album, Schenker has spoken of disappointment with the chosen tracks, saying "there were better takes they could've used". In a Guitar Player Magazine interview, Schenker stated that it would not have been possible to overdub the guitars because they also came through the drum microphones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strangers_in_the_Night_%28UFO_album%29

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
63. Love that one.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 07:47 PM
Nov 2014

My favorite may be "Mercenary Territory," which I understand was recorded at a sound check, not in concert. The "Deluxe" version also has "On Your Way Down," a fave of mine from "Dixie Chicken."

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
64. KISS 'Alive'
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 07:54 PM
Nov 2014


I'm judging it by the sound of the album itself, not the uber hype machine that was to come later, as well as Simmon's well known abrasiveness. It was never about "They put on a great show" to me. KISS of the early-mid 70s is great basic hard rock and roll. That Album ( even though studio retouched ) captures their signature sound the best I've ever heard.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
72. Live KISS is certainly better than studio KISS, I'll give you that.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 08:40 PM
Nov 2014

'Alive I & II' is about all the KISS a decent classic rock collection needs IMO.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
83. This one just got the "Super Deluxe" box treatment...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 10:50 PM
Nov 2014

...all of the shows they performed on that visit. The shows have been released in another form previously, but this is the cleaned up version.

I still think they choose the best performances for the original album. The band was pretty indifferent about the whole project. I'm sure they felt a lot better after the royalty checks started coming in, but the record label had to talk them into it and they kind of copped a "so what" attitude after it was recorded.



RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
118. I saw Deep Purple live in Dania, FL, sometime in the '60s.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:00 PM
Nov 2014

Great show. Also the laser light show was fantastic.

Initech

(100,098 posts)
80. 78 replies and not a single Frank Zappa mention? Blasphemy!!!!
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 10:18 PM
Nov 2014

My pick: Broadway The Hard Way



On this album he totally destroys Reagan, Nixon, and the BFEE, and makes an absolute mockery of televangelists like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. Plus there's a Sting cameo and an awesome Police cover of "Murder By Numbers".

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
81. Guitarist Steve Vai wasn't fond of that one at all...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 10:44 PM
Nov 2014

...he went on record as saying it was his "least favorite" Frank album.

This is one of the newer "Zappa Family Trust" releases:



It has a special place in my heart because I saw him at Boston Music Hall (with CHUCK BERRY as his opening act) on this tour. The set pretty much matches the show I saw, the Flo and Eddie band, ABSOLUTELY the FILTHIEST show I have ever seen.

My brother set up a blind date with his next door neighbor. I was 15 years old, so was she. If you remember Carole King's "Tapestry" album cover, she looked like her little sister. VERY quiet. Wore jeans, a white turtleneck sweater, and a BIG peace medal on a leather strap.

I could FEEL her tensing up as Howard and Mark sang about God's girlfriend on the sofa with the "Magic Pig."

My brother drove us home after the show, and the SECOND the car's wheels came to a stop in her driveway, she opened the door without looking at me or saying a word and marched briskly into her house.

How did I know? I was as mortified as she was. Maybe more.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
148. Es ist in SOFA!
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 07:49 PM
Nov 2014

(God speaks German)

Did they do the Mud Shark bit? That was screamingly funny and still is. "Let's just say you are a touring rock band called, oh, The Vanilla Fudge, with a Big Hit Single in The Charts...."

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
149. My memory is that it was basically the whole "Fillmore" album with the Magic Pig bit.
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 08:59 PM
Nov 2014

Also "Brain Police" and a couple of older Mothers songs. The "centerpiece" of the show was the Magic Pig and that's pretty much when I knew it was going to be a first AND last date.



Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
93. I should have listed Bongo Fury as my all time favorite live album.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:44 AM
Nov 2014

So this was a drive-in restaurant in Hollywood....

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
100. "Muffin Man" contains my all-time favorite Zappa solo.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:49 AM
Nov 2014

I remember buying the album the day it came out and hearing it for the fiirst time. STILL gives me chills.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
105. It's a truly great one.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:20 PM
Nov 2014

We got to see him do it live with nearly that original line up including Duke and Bozzio. We were so fortunate.

I think another great Frank solo is found right there on Bongo Fury in Advance Romance. They were at the top of their game right there, all of them, Beefheart included.

For those that might not be familiar. After the Denny Walley slide solo, Frank cuts loose at 4:57. George Duke exclaims, "My goodness!" Fowler on bass is unreal. Love the Captain Beefhart harmonica.

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Initech

(100,098 posts)
108. Zappa was the undisputed king of the live album.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:40 PM
Nov 2014

I got to see Dweezil and his band play the House Of Blues this year and they did a full on recreation of that album. The guy that was singing Frank's parts sounds so much like him that you'd think he was in the room. I even got a DVD signed by the band after the show.

Initech

(100,098 posts)
110. I remember reading an LA Times interview with Gail Zappa not too long ago.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:48 PM
Nov 2014

Where she had said that Frank had recorded enough music both studio and live that the Zappa Trust could release a new album of studio or live material every year for the next 100 years!

Oh and definitely see Dweezil live if you get the chance. Definitely awesome.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
151. The best thing is that the ZFT owns every last note
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 09:12 PM
Nov 2014

Frank ever wrote or recorded and Gail watches over everything like a hawk.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
116. I saw the "Bongo" AND "Roxy" bands...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:48 PM
Nov 2014

...yep, Beefheart was the "opening act" for the "Bongo" show, but didn't share a single moment of stage time with Frank. Beefheart announced that John "Drumbo" French was going to do his "solo," and he walked center stage and did a little silent soft shoe / tap dance while the audience booed him.



At one point Frank tied his hair back into a pony tail and told the audience "I have to do this, because the next song is SERIOUS MUSIC," and then proceeded to SCREAM and HOWL on "Black Napkins."

The "Roxy" show was at the Circle Star Theater in San Carolos. It's been plowed under and is some kind of high-rise now, but it featured a small, revolving, circular stage. I had third row seats, which meant I was probably no more than 20 feet away from the band. At one point I was sitting there in awe and looked right at George Duke and he caught eye contact wiith me and bugged out his eyes at me. I laughed out loud. It was all of that tight interplay that can be heard on the "Roxy & Elsewhere" album. At the beginning of the show, the announcer said "The opening act tonight was PERSONALLY SELECTED by Frank, and he would like you to sit back and enjoy him."

It was a solo Tom Waits, who had just released his first album.

Initech

(100,098 posts)
117. That's seriously bad ass.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:52 PM
Nov 2014

Can you imagine if Frank Zappa were still alive and touring, how many stadiums he could sell out? He'd probably be as big of a ticket as Sir Paul is.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
120. Yep, he'd have no problem selling tickets.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:10 PM
Nov 2014

The one performance I really wish I could have witnessed is "Torture" from the first YCDTOSA set:



Insane guitar solos, but the highlight for me is Bozzio's drumming...just LISTEN to the fills he's doing as the band comes out of the solo, around the 14 minute mark. By the time frank is singing "Look at her, look at him" (15 minutes) and the ending "That's what's the deal we're dealin' is," it sounds more like gunshots than drum rolls. I've seen Bozzio play with Frank, he's NUTS. While he's firing off these fills and rolls he just routinely springs up in the air from his drum stool.

Frank was a lot like John Mayall in that his bands were a "finishing school" for the best and brightest musicians who have ever walked the planet. I'm not sure Adrian Belew would have been able to handle that extended tenure with King Crimson if he hadn't woodshedded with Frank first.

Initech

(100,098 posts)
122. I have all of the You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore series.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:20 PM
Nov 2014

There's some definite gems in there. But that's one of the highlights. I love both Zappa and Crimson, and I seriously think that Frank Zappa could be music's Kevin Bacon. You could play the "six degrees" game and link nearly any popular rock band from the last sixty years back to Frank in some way, shape or form. Hell I've even seen George Clinton's band perform a cover of "I'm The Slime".

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
84. Oh HELL yes. YES.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 10:54 PM
Nov 2014

He reverts to his feral state on that one. Absolutely insane, pure testosterone and adrenaline.



Jetboy

(792 posts)
113. Hardest, fastest, roughest and toughest rock-n-roll ever set to wax.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 03:18 PM
Nov 2014

Feral is a great word for it, absolute reckless abandon. Punk rock bands cower after hearing it.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
90. Love all the artists mentioned above! I'll add Gary Moore Live at Montreux
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 02:36 AM
Nov 2014

He sure could make that Les Paul Cry, Wail, and SING!

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
101. I was in a "Banana Records" store when that album came out...
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:57 AM
Nov 2014

...they were playing it and when I heard "Hard Driving Man" I asked "What the HELL is THAT?" I bought a copy on the spot.





"You heard of the Boogaloo? You heard of the Boston Boogie? You heard of The Philly Freeze? We got the DETROIT DEMOLITION here for you tonight..."

The other highlight, obviously, is when Geils' guitar coils up out of silence and EXPLODES 5 minutes and 50 seconds into "Serves You Right To Suffer."

PufPuf23

(8,813 posts)
114. Someone has to mention Joe Cocker's Mad Dogs and Englishmen
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:05 PM
Nov 2014

I saw them with Van Morrison at Winterland in SF.

Big Zappa fan here. Many.

Stop Making Sense - Talking Heads

Tried to wear out Who's Live at Leeds.

Bloomfield et al(s) Super Session and Live at Fillmore West albums.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
121. I got CARDED when I went to a movie theater to see "Mad Dogs." A "PG" film!
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:15 PM
Nov 2014

My sister and brother in law took me. Got carded, said I had to have a "parent or guardian" and I said "RIGHT HERE."

I was listening to Leon Russell's "Shelter People" album earlier today and was reminded of just how much Leon contributed to EVERYTHING. He seldom gets adequate credit, he really IS the "master of space and time."

My favorite part of the entire "Mad Dogs" album is at the end of "Blue Medley"...Joe's take on "I've Been Loving You Too Long" is also my all-time favorite Cocker performance...and we hear a woman yell out "Joe COCKER!" (at the 12:37 mark).

Joe Cocker, indeed.




ProfessorGAC

(65,138 posts)
139. First Album I Ever Bought
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:28 PM
Nov 2014

With my own money.

I was learning jazz piano in those days, so except for the Beatles and the Kinks, i didn't know much about rock. After that album, i realized i was missing a lot.

My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
133. I've been listening to They Might Be Giants First Album Live. It's FREE
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:13 AM
Nov 2014
http://www.theymightbegiants.com/firstalbumlive/
I'm sorry that I only started listening to TMBG this year. They suit me down to the ground.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
153. Pulse? What, no Pink Floyd fan(atics) here?
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 10:22 PM
Nov 2014


Pulse did not make my number one slot, I gave that to Yessongs and voted it in above but Pulse seems to have missed this list... or maybe I missed it.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
154. Pulse was named a little further upstream in the thread.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:42 AM
Nov 2014

Pulse and Yesssongs, and in that vein I'll add "Seconds Out" since I saw the same setlist at Winterland (the Wind & Wuthering tour). Like many people, I stopped following the pop version of the band (when Hackett left...I hated "And Then There Were Three&quot . But the Wind & Wuthering show was a real jaw-dropper. Every member of the band kicked ass in unimaginable ways.



Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
162. My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it.
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 01:21 PM
Nov 2014

Thanks for the Genesis link as well.

There used to be a POWERFUL clip of "Los Endos" that mirrored what was on Seconds Out that I had bookmarked, only to find out that when I went back to look at it, it had been removed. I've been listening to Hackett's "Genesis Revisited II" album and its "Live At Royal Abert Hall" and "Live At Hammersmith" counterparts. It's nice that he's keeping that sound alive.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
156. Three way tie
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:10 AM
Nov 2014

Guns N' Roses: Appetite For Destruction
AC/DC: Back In Black
Poison: Open Up and Say...Ahh!

Dep Leppard's Hsteria comes close, as does Aerosmith's Pump.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
161. Ok, I don't listen to much live recorded music..
Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:08 PM
Nov 2014

.... because the kind of stuff I really dig can generally only be done in the studio.

That said here are two exceptions:

1) Emerson Lake & Palmer - Pictures at an Exhibition. This was recorded 1970 or so at the Isle of Wight festival. The band had only been together a relatively short time (around a year). The performance is wonderful, with the possible exception of some of Lake's overwrought lyrics. In any event an incredible listen and done 100% live, a performance most bands couldn't do with a year in the studio From one of the most unfairly villified bands in the history of pop music.

2) King Crimson - Starless and Bible Black. Now admittedly this recording was only about 1/2 to 2/3 done live. But some of the most stunning parts of it were in fact recorded live at the Concertgebouw in 1972 or 3. When released, it was presented as a studio album and only much later was it revealed that much of it was recorded live. A fine record but not for those who enjoy the insipid

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