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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 05:47 AM Oct 2014

Things you shouldn't send in a text...

"Your grandfather has passed. I'm sorry."

My husband didn't get the text until the next day as he was finalizing plans to go visit his grandfather in the hospital. The day before his father had called to let him know the doctors were giving him three-to-five days, but apparently grandpa passed a few hours later.

I am not sure why this information was texted, and why no follow up phone call was made to insure he got it. I am sad and angry for him; when my husband called the texter (not his dad), he was told his grandfather's body had been donated to a local medical school, the school had already picked it up the night before, and there was going to be no memorial service.

"Closure" is a personal thing; my beloved is reeling.

On a positive note, his grandfather was at my brother-in-law's birthday party, and it was a wonderful time. Those are good memories, and "not bad" if they are the last ones you have of someone you love -- smiles and laughter and happy times.

Rest in peace, Grandpa Briggs.

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Things you shouldn't send in a text... (Original Post) IdaBriggs Oct 2014 OP
I'm sorry for your loss. Arkansas Granny Oct 2014 #1
Thank you. IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #4
Who or what sent the text? Android3.14 Oct 2014 #2
His father's girlfriend sent it. IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #3
That's rough Android3.14 Oct 2014 #6
I assume she was trying to help my father-in-law, and didn't realize IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #14
Sorry for your loss of Grandpa Briggs. bvf Oct 2014 #11
Agreed! IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #15
My condolences to your family... madamvlb Oct 2014 #5
I don't know. At least she said she was sorry, right? IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #16
Perhaps you husband could arrange a wake or Ilsa Oct 2014 #7
Thank you. I have reached out to the "favorite aunt" who has been IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #17
I am very sorry for your loss. merrily Oct 2014 #8
Thank you. IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #18
Thoughtless, yes. Is it possible she was upset and not thinking clearly, also? Hoppy Oct 2014 #9
I am not sure. IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #20
I'm so sorry for your loss n/t A Little Weird Oct 2014 #10
Thank you. IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #21
My condolences on your loss. Ineeda Oct 2014 #12
Thank you. IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #22
I am sorry for your families loss. irisblue Oct 2014 #13
Thank you. IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #23
I am so sorry for your loss. Xyzse Oct 2014 #19
I think we would have preferred the text to say... IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #24
I can definitely understand. Xyzse Oct 2014 #25
THat's how I found out my MOM had died. OriginalGeek Oct 2014 #26
that's very sad. i'm sorry to hear about all of this orleans Oct 2014 #27
Texting is not appropriate for a lot of things! csziggy Oct 2014 #28
I got one of those this week, too. bobclark86 Oct 2014 #29
I am sorry for your loss tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #30
 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
4. Thank you.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:53 AM
Oct 2014

And I agree.

It is very easy to focus on "safe" emotions (like annoyance/anger) instead of grief, so I am working on keeping my perspective, and focusing on the loss, as opposed to the incredibly thoughtless way the information was transmitted.

I am NOT having an easy time of that.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
2. Who or what sent the text?
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:35 AM
Oct 2014

Was it the hospital, relatives or something else? There must be an explanation.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
3. His father's girlfriend sent it.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:49 AM
Oct 2014

Presumably at his father's request.

Sequence of events:

Monday, mid-afternoon: call from father "grandpa has only a few (3-5) days left."

Monday, 6'ish (?): grandpa passes.

Monday, 7:03: father's girlfriend texts above message.

Tuesday, 4'ish: husband gets text as he preps for hospital visit planned for that evening; father's girlfriend answers her phone, expresses condolences.

Husband calls father, who provides details.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
6. That's rough
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:04 AM
Oct 2014

Having seen folks deal with death on numerous occasions, a tragedy like that will reveal a person's true mettle. The pragmatic realities of the death of a loved one are mysteries to too many people. After a death, some folks will immediately jump to the tasks of logistics, some flail around in often unhelpful and hostile ways and some are essentially lost in their grief.

I doubt there was malicious intent, but it certainly reveals important information about the girlfriend's and possibly the father's reliability in communicating with the rest of the family..

I'm sorry for the loss your family is experiencing.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
14. I assume she was trying to help my father-in-law, and didn't realize
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:51 PM
Oct 2014

how ... I don't even have words.

She is generally speaking a nice woman, so this seems out of character.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
11. Sorry for your loss of Grandpa Briggs.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:05 AM
Oct 2014

If ever there were a time a human voice was called for . . .



 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
15. Agreed!
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:52 PM
Oct 2014

It also revealed a lack of concern for my husband by his father, but that has been pretty obvious for a while.

madamvlb

(495 posts)
5. My condolences to your family...
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:55 AM
Oct 2014

What was she thinking, texting a family member about the loss of a loved one? I hate cell phones!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
7. Perhaps you husband could arrange a wake or
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:11 AM
Oct 2014

Small memorial service on his own. It may or may not be well-attended depending on his age, etc.

I wish she had texted, "please call before making arrangements."

Your family has my condolences. I'm so sorry.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
17. Thank you. I have reached out to the "favorite aunt" who has been
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:56 PM
Oct 2014

the main caregiver; she shared that "the kids" had all been working together in a very good way, and that they were at peace / working to honor Grandpa Briggs' wishes. Apparently everyone has plans for this weekend, but hopefully we can get together with extended family to play cards / share some good memories 'soon'.

This experience is really bringing home to me how important certain rituals are *to me* for closure.

This just feels ... disrespectful and wrong, even though it is what Grandpa Briggs asked for and the "immediate family" is okay with....Strange, huh?

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
20. I am not sure.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:23 PM
Oct 2014

I would like to think she was just having a "thoughtless" moment (the behavior does not seem like her), but the "no follow up phone call" is just ... not what I would expect from a grown adult, if you know what I mean.

Working on "benefit of the doubt" thoughts....

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
12. My condolences on your loss.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:34 AM
Oct 2014

Such a cold-hearted method of notification has unnecessarily added to your family's grief. Bear in mind that, although the texting was bad enough, a 'girlfriend' has no authority in making final arrangements, in lieu of actual relatives. So someone else is to blame for the lack of a memorial service or opportinity for your husband to pay a last visit.
I walked in those shoes when my sister died, so I understand how painful it is.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
22. Thank you.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:29 PM
Oct 2014

I believe the people involved in the decision making were trying to honor his wishes, and they had time to come to terms as they were intimately involved in the care giving. Unfortunately, there are other people not-so-intimately involved who are not being given the chance to "say good-bye" with the more traditional rituals of funeral/memorial service/shared meal.

It is giving me a lot to think about. The matter-of-fact, "well, he's gone, so let's all get along with our lives" just seems...not right.

Sigh. They are good people, too. Very odd situation.

To be fair, my family would have already started some kind of "Family Drama Family War" by this point, so maybe my husband's family is handling things better?

I probably need to be less judge-y!

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
19. I am so sorry for your loss.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 02:07 PM
Oct 2014

However, in regards to a texting, there are times where it is appropriate.

Case in point, my best friend's mother.
When she passed away, no one could get a hold of my best friend since she only has a cell phone and the reception is generally bad.
Due to that, the only way that she could get reached is through a text message which goes through as soon as a little bit of reception is had.

Sometimes, a text is also the best way to reach me when I am in certain areas lacking reception, especially when someone does not have a land line.

Still, she should have called or attempted to call regardless.
A text is a last resort to something like that.

That is also how I received notifications in regards to my aunt as well as both of my grandmothers.
It really sucks, but sometimes that is the fastest way of notification.

I am still so sorry, since it really is never easy.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
24. I think we would have preferred the text to say...
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:33 PM
Oct 2014

"Please call asap -- SUPER IMPORTANT."

I understand there can be a "time and a place" but I don't think this situation qualified; my husband had just spoken with his father a few hours before, and there was no follow up to verify he had received the message (which he didn't get until late the next afternoon as he was preparing to head to the hospital for a difficult visit).

There are some serious hurt feelings at the moment, mixed with the grief.



And thank you for your kind thoughts!

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
25. I can definitely understand.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:47 PM
Oct 2014

Times like these, everyone is hurting and confused.
Not everyone knows what the best thing to do would be.

I am sorry.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
26. THat's how I found out my MOM had died.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:06 PM
Oct 2014

She had been in the hospital and had complications and we were waiting for some news but then some dipshit from her church sent out a mass text before the family had been notified. Still don't know how they got my number as I never attended their church but here I was driving home from work and bam.


At any rate, I'm truly sorry about your Husband's grandpa - I understand how he feels. Y'all just keep remembering those good times.

orleans

(34,061 posts)
27. that's very sad. i'm sorry to hear about all of this
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 05:36 PM
Oct 2014

it's amazing to me how incredibly _____ people can be when it comes to texting

maybe your husband can talk with a couple family members and put together some type of memorial or event for his grandpa around a holiday when the family gathers, or maybe on his grandpa's birthday have a special dinner (with grandpa's favorite foods, desserts, music, & drinks) and share toasts & stories in memory of him.

condolences to you both.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
28. Texting is not appropriate for a lot of things!
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 05:38 PM
Oct 2014

Condolences to your husband for his loss.

When my Dad was in the hospital and not expected to live in March 2013 (he recovered from that illness and passed away in August last year) my little sister told Mom and our other sister she was keeping me updated. Yeah - she was texting all her updates to my landline. Of course, I never got any of those texts and Mom and our other sister thought I didn't care what was happening to Dad because I didn't respond. I did call the other sister and ask about Dad, but she assumed I knew everything that had been happening and didn't give me the full picture.

It wasn't until after Dad had passed away months later that it all got explained. Mom doesn't understand texting so she still doesn't get what happened. She and my older sister felt much better when they understood why I seemed oblivious to Dad's previous illness and the family problems that were going on at the time. If anyone had called me and explained exactly what was going on, I would have been there as quickly as I could drive down. As it was, I kept being told that I could come if I felt I needed to but otherwise don't bother - by the time I called to find what was going on because no once called me, they thought I just didn't give a shit.

I don't get what kind of moron doesn't understand that texting to a landline is a waste of electrons. I've had this landline number for over 30 years, so she can't have thought it was a cell number. It's not as though I have ever once in my life texted anyone. I've made a big point to her family to not call me on my cell phone since I get no signal here at home. Anyone with two brain cells should be able to figure out that means texting is a waste of time!

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
30. I am sorry for your loss
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 06:48 PM
Oct 2014

Some things like that can be relayed by text though. When I found out my grandfather was on his final days, it was by a text from my dad. I knew it wasn't good because the text came at 4 AM (nothing ever good comes from a communication at that time). He later called me when he knew I would be awake.

Even worse is finding out on FB (I didn't, I received a phone call from my mom) but I know of others who found out about deaths that way.

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