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UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:18 AM Apr 2014

Oh. Nic COPPOLA Cage tries for "2 good scenes in every movie" and job done!1

They included the part of being somebody famous's relative as part of the formula for success. He's being interviewed/profiled on CBS in case anybody cares. It's over.

Well, the Cher quote was funny. She told him she picked him for Moonstruck because watching him in Peggy Sue was like watching a train wreck for two hours, which would work for this.

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Oh. Nic COPPOLA Cage tries for "2 good scenes in every movie" and job done!1 (Original Post) UTUSN Apr 2014 OP
You're being too hard on Nic brooklynboy49 Apr 2014 #1
You started by spooking me that I was showing my ignorance (which I often do), but then UTUSN Apr 2014 #2
he was great in Birdy lame54 Apr 2014 #7
Shitty actor with an Oscar Generic Brad Apr 2014 #14
You must not have seen Leaving Las Vegas. cui bono Apr 2014 #16
I tend to like his movies aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2014 #3
I'm not a movie buff & certainly haven't seen anything you named, including his Oscar film UTUSN Apr 2014 #4
Well I agree with you on Moonstruck aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2014 #5
Whoa, you don't like *Cher*?!1 I always used to have a semi soft spot for her while not taking her UTUSN Apr 2014 #6
I admire Cher mimi85 Apr 2014 #15
Well, I still have the soft spot for her, but she used to have me totally won over when she divorced UTUSN Apr 2014 #19
I can explain it; at least, to my own satisfaction. Aristus Apr 2014 #10
Lord of War was a great movie lame54 Apr 2014 #8
Yeah, I was just going to mention that one. Brigid Apr 2014 #9
And none of them have his rug blowing off in a high wind KamaAina Apr 2014 #11
C'mon now. He was wonderful in frogmarch Apr 2014 #12
perfect casting. Raine1967 Apr 2014 #13
Leaving Las Vegas. cui bono Apr 2014 #17
YES, I forgot that movie. Raine1967 Apr 2014 #21
Seems logical if the quote is legit. In my experience, actors are never fully happy with their work Lucinda Apr 2014 #18
"if the quote is legit" - I'll just say I have no reason to make up a quote n /t UTUSN Apr 2014 #22
I think he blamed the director for his Peggy Sue performance. Ron Obvious Apr 2014 #20
 

brooklynboy49

(287 posts)
1. You're being too hard on Nic
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:53 AM
Apr 2014

OK, you're not lol.

He was very bad in Peggy Sue. But that was Oscar caliber compared to Moonstruck.

I can count his good performances on one hand and have a few fingers left over.

Having an uncle named Francis Ford Coppola explains his start. What explains his staying power? It's a question I ponder every time I see a Nic Coppola film. Which isn't often these days. His last (only?) good performance was in Matchstick Men in 2003. Quite a resume for a guy who's made 50 movies. One. One good movie. I'll grudgingly throw in Leaving Las Vegas.

I've never understood why he keeps getting cast. He's just a flat out shitty actor. Period. Exclamation point.

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
2. You started by spooking me that I was showing my ignorance (which I often do), but then
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:56 AM
Apr 2014

you did good, really really good!1 Thanks.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
16. You must not have seen Leaving Las Vegas.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 03:42 PM
Apr 2014

He was fantastic in that.

I haven't seen Moonstruck in a long time but I loved it and wasn't not bothered by him at all. Birdy...

His choice to do so many action flicks is questionable imo.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
3. I tend to like his movies
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 12:21 PM
Apr 2014

They're not deep, meaningful explorations into the meaning of life. But I find them entertaining. It's probably not so much his acting that I like as his choice of films and subject matter. I like the two National Treasure movies, however fanciful and improbable they are. I like Knowing, Next, the Sorceror's Apprentice, Lord Of War, Con Air, quite a few others and even The Wicker Man although I find it much inferior to the original and I usually hate remakes. I'm not a fan of the Ghost Rider films but I don't like the concept. Roger Ebert during his life seemed to usually have nice things to say about Cage. He was quite good in my opinion in Valley Girl and in Leaving Las Vegas. Again, I don't think he's a great actor but then there aren't many great actors around these days compared to the Hollywood of old. I kind of see Cage in the same category with Keanu Reeves and Kevin Costner as a 'so-so' actor who usually picks pretty entertaining films that I like to see when I want to get away.

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
4. I'm not a movie buff & certainly haven't seen anything you named, including his Oscar film
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 12:29 PM
Apr 2014

I like either true "big" ("masterpiece" - NOT special effects) movies or off the wall niche movies like (the one behind the scenes of GILBERT & SULLIVAN, will insert here when I Google the name: ) "Topsy-Turvy"

Iow, for me it's more about visceral personal dislike of him, will never see any movie he's in, well barely saw parts of Moonstruck.



[font size=5]Topsy-Turvy (1999)[/font]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151568/
"After Gilbert and Sullivan's latest play is critically panned, the frustrated team threatens to disband until it is inspired to write the masterpiece 'The Mikado'.

"Director:Mike Leigh
"Writer:Mike Leigh
"Stars:Jim Broadbent, Allan Corduner, Dexter Fletcher"

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
5. Well I agree with you on Moonstruck
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 12:39 PM
Apr 2014

I didn't like that film or anyone in it. I also understand how the personalities of some actors can get under your skin. With me in Moonstruck, it was especially Cher that I didn't like. I think Cher can be wonderful. She was terrific in the Robert Altman film Come Back To The Five And Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean. But there's something about her that gets under my skin. I wish I could explain it in a rational way. I can't stand to see her on the screen.

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
6. Whoa, you don't like *Cher*?!1 I always used to have a semi soft spot for her while not taking her
Sun Apr 6, 2014, 12:56 PM
Apr 2014

seriously. Uh, don't look to ME for (my) explaining things "in a rational way" - haha.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
15. I admire Cher
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 03:30 PM
Apr 2014

because I consider her a survivor. I wouldn't put many people in that category, in acting or in politics.

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
19. Well, I still have the soft spot for her, but she used to have me totally won over when she divorced
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 04:27 PM
Apr 2014

Sonny and made the rounds for years telling every talk show how she had freed herself from him, and then when Dave hosted the two of them together and made them sing *that* song, fine. But imagine my astonishment when he died that she declared how she had never stopped loving him or some other thing along those lines.

O.K., I get it that you love forever somebody whom you have ever loved and that somebody who had such an impact on your life is an impact forever, but she had made the case against him so much for so many years... then whammo.

That said, I'm really not this superficial!1

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
10. I can explain it; at least, to my own satisfaction.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 11:32 AM
Apr 2014

Cher built a singing career on a cheesy, overripe singing voice that grates on my ears like fingernails on a blackboard. And it was that singing career that was her springboard to an acting career; fruit from the poisoned tree...

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
11. And none of them have his rug blowing off in a high wind
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 04:58 PM
Apr 2014

or getting yanked off by a jealous husband or something.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
13. perfect casting.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 08:10 PM
Apr 2014

When he is cast to play a certain character...

he's awesome.

Moonstruck.

Peggy Sue Got Married.

Raising Arizona.



The rest, meh.

Well maybe that mandolin movie is an exception. He's a Coppola. That saids, so is Jason Schwartzman -- and he's been amazing in pretty much EVERY Wes Anderson film.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
17. Leaving Las Vegas.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 03:46 PM
Apr 2014

Wait a sec... Schwartzman is a Coppola? Weird. I really like him. He does a lot of quirky things that I love. I Heart Huckabees, Bored to Death (HBO series). And I just saw him in a Parks and Rec episode from S5 yesterday.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
21. YES, I forgot that movie.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 08:32 PM
Apr 2014

And yes, Schwartzman is a Coppola. He's a cool guy had a chance to meet him about 12 years ago.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
18. Seems logical if the quote is legit. In my experience, actors are never fully happy with their work
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 04:10 PM
Apr 2014

so shooting for two that he feels good about means a lot of hard work.
I have never had a full stage performance that I felt I couldn't improve on.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
20. I think he blamed the director for his Peggy Sue performance.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 05:07 PM
Apr 2014

Apparently he was directed to mug like that. I agree that it didn't work, and ruined what otherwise would have been a great movie.

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